wppete Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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White Linen Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 As Wawrow said - they haven't played yet but in terms of his work - he's addressing needs at a high rate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, White Linen said: As Wawrow said - they haven't played yet but in terms of his work - he's addressing needs at a high rate. ...thought OBD took expert TBD advice and fired the dude.............along with the McDermutt guy......... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, White Linen said: As Wawrow said - they haven't played yet but in terms of his work - he's addressing needs at a high rate. If you look at the PFF comments - analytics is something we are actually using. The contracts can easily be gone after one season with little to no cap hit and it will help us in finishing turning over the roster on the offensive side of the ball. It's a great job so far 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) There's a new sheriff in the league... and he doesn't give AF... Eat your heart out, Tyrann... Edited March 12, 2019 by Búfalo Blanco 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: If you look at the PFF comments - analytics is something we are actually using. The contracts can easily be gone after one season with little to no cap hit and it will help us in finishing turning over the roster on the offensive side of the ball. It's a great job so far Really? I haven't seen that yet. Are you saying most of the contracts we've given, could be 1 year deals with little cap hits? If that's they case, wow, on so many levels. One obviously is if the player doesn't work out, you can move on quickly. Second, it means we didn't have to structure contracts in the players favor to get them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Some people are able to see his clear-eyed, methodical approach to how they're running this organization. Others........ Not so much 5 minutes ago, White Linen said: Really? I haven't seen that yet. Are you saying most of the contracts we've given, could be 1 year deals with little cap hits? If that's they case, wow, on so many levels. One obviously is if the player doesn't work out, you can move on quickly. Second, it means we didn't have to structure contracts in the players favor to get them here. On most of the contracts so far, yes. If they dont perform you cut them and move on and replace them the following year with no Dead Cap hit. Unlike the previous organization where if a player underperformed.....oh well. You're S.O.L 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Magox said: Some people are able to see his clear-eyed, methodical approach to how they're running this organization. Others........ Not so much On most of the contracts so far, yes. If they dont perform you cut them and move on and replace them the following year with no Dead Cap hit. Unlike the previous organization where if a player underperformed.....oh well. You're S.O.L Wow, that's amazing work by Beane then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, White Linen said: Really? I haven't seen that yet. Are you saying most of the contracts we've given, could be 1 year deals with little cap hits? If that's they case, wow, on so many levels. One obviously is if the player doesn't work out, you can move on quickly. Second, it means we didn't have to structure contracts in the players favor to get them here. Beane is careful about who gets the long term deals. Gore didn't. Morse did. Gore is at high risk for not being able to play out a long term deal at a high level, Morse carries a low risk of that. I think Ty Nsekhe is 33. He got a two year deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Haven’t seen JW around here in awhile. Shame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I think Beane has a couple more big moves up his sleeve, possibly trades. He can't let the off season go by without a big trade, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Very impressed with the contracts Beane has handed out. Thank you Carolina for grooming him and McD. They're going to be around here a long time. Calculated, intelligent , patience. Had a blueprint and vision 3 yrs ago and let it play out , the league will know the Bills arrived in 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 All short term contracts that make the player want to earn another year and not just sit back. Can’t wait for the draft cause that’s where you make your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Just like his "cousin" Billy Beane of the A's. Seriously, I checked and they're not related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 If someone can tell me the last time splashy, overpaid signings helped a team win the Lombardi, I’m all ears. This might be one of the most practical, smart FA periods I’ve sent this team have... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 OBJ, Bell or Jordan Howard... one of these big names is headed our way - Beane wants fireworks (cue Katy Perry intro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, TigerJ said: Beane is careful about who gets the long term deals. Gore didn't. Morse did. Gore is at high risk for not being able to play out a long term deal at a high level, Morse carries a low risk of that. I think Ty Nsekhe is 33. He got a two year deal. Oh yeah definitely did good with length on all the contracts, IMO. 3 years for Brown and 4 for Beasley all sound perfectly appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just another in a long line of Bills GMs to win the off season... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I am pleased with what they have done. What I do think it shows though in them being so active is they do feel more pressure to win in 2019 than maybe some (myself included) suspected. I was in the 8-8 or a non-playoff 9-7 definitely sees them back in 2020. The sheer number of moves they have made suggests they feel that 9-7 (equalling year 1) is the minimum requirement. They have filled holes to the extent that when they go on the clock next month they genuinely can go BPA and not need filling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Welp, I'm interested in how the WR battle in TC plays out. The John Brown signing took me by surprise, the Cole Beasley signing was also pleasant. We'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Anyone know how much cap space Bills have left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, rayray808 said: OBJ, Bell or Jordan Howard... one of these big names is headed our way - Beane wants fireworks (cue Katy Perry intro) Seriously doubt it. But... Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am pleased with what they have done. What I do think it shows though in them being so active is they do feel more pressure to win in 2019 than maybe some (myself included) suspected. I was in the 8-8 or a non-playoff 9-7 definitely sees them back in 2020. The sheer number of moves they have made suggests they feel that 9-7 (equalling year 1) is the minimum requirement. They have filled holes to the extent that when they go on the clock next month they genuinely can go BPA and not need filling. Well, yeah. For those that have recognized that this was always meant to be a 3-5 year rebuild with slashing all the players/contracts that they didnt believe fit this organization the first 2 years were designed to be the most painful. There is no doubt in my mind that Beane pitched Pegula of this plan of getting rid of some talent and dead cap space and that he would retool this team with a different philosophy not just from a culture standpoint but how they would do their contracts with players so not to stay anchored with them for years if the players didnt live up to expectations. Now that the slashing is largely done this was meant to be the year of the upswing in talent and there is pressure now to perform at a higher level than the first two years. If they were to regress or even play similar level of football than this past year then Pegula will begin to lose trust and then they will be on the hot seat the following year. I think all indications show that we should be an improved offense. I still think they will go after a quality DE lineman through either FA or a trade and will pick the BPA with their #9 which will also be a DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, noacls said: Anyone know how much cap space Bills have left? somewhere around $40M to $45M, I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, yungmack said: Seriously doubt it. But... Who knows? looks like we inquired about OBJ but he went to the Browns.... Bell is coming - calling it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This topic is an excellent observation. This really is Moneyball. With the exception of Morse, these are all relative value signings, no big splashes but lots of very good players(according to most accounts) at reasonable prices with reasonable contract lengths. We'll see if it works, but it is the antithesis of going for the ABs and Bells of the world. I personally love it, but we will see how it turns out. 22 wins in a row like the Oakland As? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 hours ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: somewhere around $40M to $45M, I believe. Thats really good.... This offseason is soo impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Casey D said: This topic is an excellent observation. This really is Moneyball. With the exception of Morse, these are all relative value signings, no big splashes but lots of very good players(according to most accounts) at reasonable prices with reasonable contract lengths. We'll see if it works, but it is the antithesis of going for the ABs and Bells of the world. I personally love it, but we will see how it turns out. 22 wins in a row like the Oakland As? I'd settle for 19. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Success said: If someone can tell me the last time splashy, overpaid signings helped a team win the Lombardi, I’m all ears. This might be one of the most practical, smart FA periods I’ve sent this team have... Exactly! all our moves so far are unsexy but badly needed pieces to fortify the teams depth. I'm sure the draft will see us take the sexier options and let us stockpile more athleticism which is the better way to manage assets with regards to upside vs.cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 It seems like this regime likes to get their stars in the draft and build them up. While bringingnin cost effective veterans with the right attitude to promote growth of the rookies. Ita not a bad philosophy but sometimes you just have to pony up cash and bring talent in. This year and next year we should be doing more of that. Evidence by that top shelf Center we just picked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 6:55 PM, MJS said: I think Beane has a couple more big moves up his sleeve, possibly trades. He can't let the off season go by without a big trade, right? I see a trade happening on draft day but just don’t see it happening right now. I think he will let a few of the needy teams really feel the pressure come April. I do, however, think we land another FA or 2. The next few weeks he can let everything cool down- their isn’t many teams left with substantial cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 6:26 PM, Success said: If someone can tell me the last time splashy, overpaid signings helped a team win the Lombardi, I’m all ears. This might be one of the most practical, smart FA periods I’ve sent this team have... Peyton Manning, Marshawn Lynch, and Alshon Jeffrey are just 3 notable acquisitions that teams would not have won a super Bowl without in the last 5 years alone Darrelle Revis, and as much as it pains me to say it, Stephon Gilmore are honorable mentions.. Other teams like the Rams have risen to dominance through liberal use of FA. This very common take is bad, for a lot of reasons. Winning a championship takes a bit of luck, but getting yourself in position to win a championship year in and year out is what skillful use of FA can and does accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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