Misterbluesky Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: That’s a lot of money for a Guard. 3 years $32m left on his deal. And have to give up a draft pick? He better be All Pro level for that. C'mon brother,we've been watching sub-par football for too darn long now.We saved money for things like this to happen....talent,talent and more talent.I want the division this year...it's time for a new AFC East king. 11 minutes ago, TOboy said: Does this look like a man who uses an umbrella? Hell no!!!! Ha! 12 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Browns fans think if he gets traded will be for a player not a pick... Give them Zay . 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Former Bill, Joe Panos is Kevin's agent. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/kevin-zeitler-9837/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Give them Zay . They might be a bit disappointed.. they are expecting OBJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I was on a cruise with him 3 years ago. That makes him a yes for me!! Did you guys end up in a Conga line together or anything? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think I'd rather try to sign Saffold for that type of money. Zeitler is way better and younger than Saffold. Third rounder is the sweet part of the draft where guys that were borderline late 1s and 2s can be had. I hate to give Cleveland that juicy of a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I was on a cruise with him 3 years ago. That makes him a yes for me!! did you sit at the Captain's table with him? Edited March 6, 2019 by freddyjj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Zeitler is way better and younger than Saffold. Third rounder is the sweet part of the draft where guys that were borderline late 1s and 2s can be had. I hate to give Cleveland that juicy of a pick. There is about 20 months difference between them.. Think they get Saffold a little cheaper... I would prefer Saffold and keep the 3rd round pick... Edited March 6, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They might be a bit disappointed.. they are expecting OBJ... Lol. Yes, yes they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Depending on the asking price, this is a move I could get behind. I just posted a message in the "Tyrell Williams thread" - stating how it's OK to overpay in Free Agency, as long as you are wise in picking your spots. In my opinion, this would be a much smarter place to use cap space. I would rather pay $10 million per year for a Top 5 Guard, than $12 million for a WR that has been buried on the depth chart . 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They might be a bit disappointed.. they are expecting OBJ... Well...that changes things. 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: There is about 20 months difference between them.. Think they get Saffold a little cheaper... I would prefer Saffold and keep the 3rd round pick... 4th and Zeitler doesn't have a zipper on his knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, Misterbluesky said: Well...that changes things. 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Lol. Yes, yes they are To be fair to them.. I think they are saying Zeitler + Pick 17 = OBJ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: But if you’re giving up a 3rd, the first 2 years are basically guaranteed because you’re not cutting a guy after a year that you spent a 3rd round pick on. Really? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-release-kelvin-benjamin-just-over-a-year-after-trading-two-draft-picks-for-him/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: 4th and Zeitler doesn't have a zipper on his knee. Don't think Saffold has missed many games the past three years.. zipper or not... If you can get that done for Zeitler then sign me up.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Really? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-release-kelvin-benjamin-just-over-a-year-after-trading-two-draft-picks-for-him/ Ha! You got me on that one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think I'd rather try to sign Saffold for that type of money. I like Saffold but isnt this guy much younger? And is a VERY good OG. Is it just me or does this off season have a feel like it could fall out very well for us? We have 10 draft picks....a ton of cap space....most of our players under contract.....franchise QB has been secured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 28 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I understand he has a big contract, but at the end of the day, what are the odds we get a player with that much talent in the third round? We have the space, this is not a terrible way to use it. Also perfect timing. 3 years left I believe, right before this regimes big contracts start becoming a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, John from Riverside said: I like Saffold but isnt this guy much younger? And is a VERY good OG. Is it just me or does this off season have a feel like it could fall out very well for us? We have 10 draft picks....a ton of cap space....most of our players under contract.....franchise QB has been secured. He’s younger but not that much. He’s 28. I’m not super concerned with age on the OL. Guys all over the league playing at very high levels in their 30s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I like Saffold but isnt this guy much younger? And is a VERY good OG. Is it just me or does this off season have a feel like it could fall out very well for us? We have 10 draft picks....a ton of cap space....most of our players under contract.....franchise QB has been secured. There is less then two years between them... I don't really consider that much difference age wise... Like your optimism... if they can get two decent guys for the OL during FA I will be happy.... don't think that's asking too much is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, JoeF said: Former Bill, Joe Panos is Kevin's agent. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/kevin-zeitler-9837/ Joe Panos owes us for the money we wasted on him, he should be reaching out to only the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 The top rated pass protector, under 30 years old, with years left on his contract? Take my 3rd all day long and worry about Saffold and remaining cap space later. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Joe Panos owes us for the money we wasted on him, he should be reaching out to only the Bills. That was my thinking as well, Mark... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s younger but not that much. He’s 28. I’m not super concerned with age on the OL. Guys all over the league playing at very high levels in their 30s Turns 29 in a few days too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Sweeten it with next years 5th. You have a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: . if they can get two decent guys for the OL during FA I will be happy.... don't think that's asking too much is it? Williams appears to be a lock,why not hit up both G AND C? If it costs 25 million this year to get it done..so what. With the draft..have at your TE from the Midwest and the best flanker in the second...third round=BPA or a pass rusher..or a Alexander upgrade.IMO ,those are the major parts of the puzzle. P.S.- Beane is going to spend 50 m or so this spring and summer,we just can't wrap our heads around that yet. Let the good times roll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: To be fair to them.. I think they are saying Zeitler + Pick 17 = OBJ... I’m hearing that the package of players and picks is more complex than that. Not sure if it happens or not though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: Zeitler and Duke Johnson for our 2 4th round picks. I like the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3rd rounder for Zeitler. We need some savvy vets on offensive line(and WR). Zeitler would help seal the interior- where a lot of plays were getting blown up. If we want to reestablish the running game(and keep Josh in one piece) we must improve the offensive line, and not with Ducasse and the other subpar budget bargains we have been fond of. and if we are all hurt about losing a draft pick(after gaining a quality starter)- trade back from 9 and add additional picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Maybe the best pass pro guard in football. Would be a great get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think I'd rather try to sign Saffold for that type of money. Zeitler is better than Saffold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, cle23 said: Zeitler is better than Saffold. I don't really believe in PFF stuff, especially when it comes to linemen. I think they are comparable and Saffold wouldn't cost a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: New regime drafted Austin Corbett in 2nd rd last year. He can replace him. Originally they were playing him at LT but they signed Greg Robinson so that’s Corbett’s job now. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: As much as I wanted Saffold, he is 31 and Zeitler is 28. It would be a shrewd move, and I know I’m a broken record but Paradis at 26 would round us out with Juwain Taylor at LT. We would go from a weakness to significant strength. Running game gets better, passing gets better, more holes for Allen, Shady, and so on. Bring it baby. Investing real $ for excellent O Lineman who have time to be here for awhile is a great investment. Get one of those stud TE’s in the draft, and we’re back in the game. Be still my heart ! Including that particular starting TE earlier or even early , in the draft would be a serious game changer for the Bills Daboll Allen etc. I have mentioned before this is where I would spend my money. adding another steady TE in FA as well. If Browns are parting with him ? Bills need to be in the bidding game I like your enthusiasm in this matter. and it could be accomplished. : ) Go Beane ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Williams appears to be a lock,why not hit up both G AND C? If it costs 25 million this year to get it done..so what. With the draft..have at your TE from the Midwest and the best flanker in the second...third round=BPA or a pass rusher..or a Alexander upgrade.IMO ,those are the major parts of the puzzle. P.S.- Beane is going to spend 50 m or so this spring and summer,we just can't wrap our heads around that yet. Let the good times roll. Let em roll : ) good fun this offseason. got to spend it somewhere anyways. and all those picks. Being a Bills Fan over a many years. It is frightening . The potential that this offseason has. probably screw it up and reach for a CB. Or Kyler Murray. and he goes and plays baseball realizing he was drafted by the Bills Go Bills. nice post Mister ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Way better than what we have right now. Is that even a compliment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Did you notice who his agent is? Joe Panos--who signed his biggest NFL contract with... I didn’t realize that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: As much as I wanted Saffold, he is 31 and Zeitler is 28. It would be a shrewd move, and I know I’m a broken record but Paradis at 26 would round us out with Juwain Taylor at LT. We would go from a weakness to significant strength. Running game gets better, passing gets better, more holes for Allen, Shady, and so on. Bring it baby. Investing real $ for excellent O Lineman who have time to be here for awhile is a great investment. Get one of those stud TE’s in the draft, and we’re back in the game. Morse is 26. Paradis is 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, JoeF said: Did you guys end up in a Conga line together or anything? You’d see him in the gym all of the time and on the pool deck. He wasn’t as wild as when Moorman was on the cruise. Brian Moorman partied hard!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: You’d see him in the gym all of the time and on the pool deck. He wasn’t as wild as when Moorman was on the cruise. Brian Moorman partied hard!! Sounds like a process kind of guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: 2nd rounder to them without question. I would not consider trading the Bills 2nd round pick for a $12M/year OG. There will be good OL prospects early in round 2 and they will be MUCH cheaper. Now, for sure, a draft pick won’t have the proven NFL track record that Zeitler has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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