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Robert Kraft charged in prostitution ring bust ( Update: Kraft legal team accused of lying in court)


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11 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

He is going to get smeared all across the country by just about everybody. The jokes will never stop, this one life choice is going to be dragged on forever and I'm going to enjoy every second of it.

 

Deservedly so. Look at all the unending crap Rex had to take for his own personal kink (which isn’t even that strange or unusual), enjoyed within the confines of his marriage. 

 

Kraft is King Sh*t of Sanctimonious Goon Mountain, and deserves whatever happens to him, whether in courts of law or public opinion. 

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4 minutes ago, nickrage said:

Is there any way the other 31 owners can strip him of the team?

Or could he be forced to sell and make out like a bandit with another few billion dollars? 

 

  The Kraft name is bad PR right now so you can bet that Goodell has already conference called the league's lawyers about it.  Letting young Kraft take over will make the league look like it is not taking the matter seriously so look for a forced sale once Kraft has had his day in court.

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21 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Exactly, being an old man getting some action and paying for it is one thing. Yea it would be frowned upon by the league, he would get a fine, a suspension etc.

 

They have it on videotape of him being there. The girls were being sex trafficked to the US from other countries. Even the association of that is why the NFL will do something stern. You have an owner of the NFL at a prostitution ring with forced girls on video and he's one of the most influential owners in the league. He might get the charges reduced the but the "protecting the shield" he didn't do.

I think you nailed it Gonzo, the NFL has a women problem already with all the domestic abuse, and the unspoken issue of NFL gear being produced in foreign sweat shops, now to have one of the most prominent faces of the league being associated with sex trafficking is a stain the league will not be able to wash away.

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2 hours ago, Clemfield2622 said:

Tucker Carlson is not a news program

 

Yeah, I know.  It was just easier to frame it that way in a forum.  So you were watching...  I'm not sure Tucker picked up on the satire either.  

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7 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Yeah, I know.  It was just easier to frame it that way in a forum.  So you were watching...  I'm not sure Tucker picked up on the satire either.  

I sent Carlson an e-mail to clarify (as it was not evident to me he was in on the joke, either.) He has responded to a couple of previous messages I sent, so I guess he reads some of his e-mail.

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28 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I sent Carlson an e-mail to clarify (as it was not evident to me he was in on the joke, either.) He has responded to a couple of previous messages I sent, so I guess he reads some of his e-mail.

 

The guy from Barstool sports sounded serious about it, and Tucker seemed to take him at face value and believe him.  Not sure how much of a sports fan Tucker is, so he may not know better.

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1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

holding my tongue so as not be reprimanded to go to PPP

Why hasn’t this thread been moved or locked? This is a criminal/social matter and has zero football content. It is becoming a public critique of a private matter. It appears to be an alleged misdemeanor. No charges, let alone convictions, but since it is the Patriots everyone is having a grand time ridiculing the hated empire. Why don’t we just beat them at football as opposed to mocking them and throwing rocks? 

19 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  Probably some things that a high end brothel won't do for a client such as hooking up a battery charger to a guy's nads.  

Really? 

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8 minutes ago, iinii said:

Why hasn’t this thread been moved or locked? This is a criminal/social matter and has zero football content. It is becoming a public critique of a private matter. It appears to be an alleged misdemeanor. No charges, let alone convictions, but since it is the Patriots everyone is having a grand time ridiculing the hated empire. Why don’t we just beat them at football as opposed to mocking them and throwing rocks? 

Really? 

Dude, this is as public as public gets. A private matter would be how he and his family and girlfriend are dealing with his alleged actions. Having a warrant for your arrest/ being arrested/ charged with a crime is , by law in the US, public knowledge, as it should absolutely be. 

 

Mans yes there are charges. This is one of the highest profile people in the highest profile sport in the country ... a sport who’s championship is a de facto national Holiday. Your damn right it’s going to be a story of national import. 

 

BTW, one needs to watch die hard Bills fan Jeff Glor lead off his newscast last night on CBS with this story. will post if I can find it. 

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Adam Schefter is becoming more and more unreliable. He tweets out theres a bigger name in the sting than Kraft, only to get peoples attention off Kraft and trying to figure out who it may be. 

 

Its a media tactic that many politicians have used, and Schefty is trying to assist Kraft. The Police even said that there is no bigger name.

 

He should be the next one to go at espn!

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7 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Again, I thought this was hilarious, but surprised the mods didn’t say you’re title was misleading.  I could care less as it was fun to read.

 

Hahaha yeah I posted it cuz I thought it was funny.

 

But title of thread is just the same title of the link.  So technically not misleading, just accurate title of the link I shared :)  hehe 

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10 minutes ago, Browntown said:

Adam Schefter is becoming more and more unreliable. He tweets out theres a bigger name in the sting than Kraft, only to get peoples attention off Kraft and trying to figure out who it may be. 

 

Its a media tactic that many politicians have used, and Schefty is trying to assist Kraft. The Police even said that there is no bigger name.

 

He should be the next one to go at espn!

Yeah, it stinks of misdirection.  Just remember Schefty works for the agents and anonymous team executives.    

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29 minutes ago, iinii said:

Why hasn’t this thread been moved or locked? This is a criminal/social matter and has zero football content. It is becoming a public critique of a private matter. It appears to be an alleged misdemeanor. No charges, let alone convictions, but since it is the Patriots everyone is having a grand time ridiculing the hated empire. Why don’t we just beat them at football as opposed to mocking them and throwing rocks? 

Really? 

  Check out a main media source and you will know that formal charges will be applied on Monday.  This is serious and given the subject is a billionaire every detail has been looked at by the local DA as well as the police chief.  No Barney Fife and Gomer on this case.

 

  It does have football content and has been addressed here to a minor degree.  A change of ownership in NE would no doubt affect the competitive balance (or lack of) in the AFCE.  Decisions to retire might be the result of a bad day in court for Kraft with Bill B plus Brady being the most probable.  

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46 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

The guy from Barstool sports sounded serious about it, and Tucker seemed to take him at face value and believe him.  Not sure how much of a sports fan Tucker is, so he may not know better.

 

If you follow the guy's Twitter, he's being serious. He's saying that prostitution is legal in Vegas so why not other places. They are conveniently leaving out the human trafficking part because it kills their entire point, but that's just the way things are these days. Selective argument. 

11 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said:

MSM is not news but liberal propaganda. FAKE NEWS. Carlson is one of the few that speak the truth.

 

I've never understood why news that leans liberal is MSM and propaganda, but the MOST WATCHED news Network that leans conservative, is not MSM and propaganda. 

 

They are both pretty awful to me and it's plainly obvious. 

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1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Yeah, I know.  It was just easier to frame it that way in a forum.  So you were watching...  I'm not sure Tucker picked up on the satire either.  

Yeah, he does.  

19 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

 

If you follow the guy's Twitter, he's being serious. He's saying that prostitution is legal in Vegas so why not other places. They are conveniently leaving out the human trafficking part because it kills their entire point, but that's just the way things are these days. Selective argument. 

 

I've never understood why news that leans liberal is MSM and propaganda, but the MOST WATCHED news Network that leans conservative, is not MSM and propaganda. 

 

They are both pretty awful to me and it's plainly obvious. 

Oh no.

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33 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Check out a main media source and you will know that formal charges will be applied on Monday.  This is serious and given the subject is a billionaire every detail has been looked at by the local DA as well as the police chief.  No Barney Fife and Gomer on this case.

 

  It does have football content and has been addressed here to a minor degree.  A change of ownership in NE would no doubt affect the competitive balance (or lack of) in the AFCE.  Decisions to retire might be the result of a bad day in court for Kraft with Bill B plus Brady being the most probable.  

 

Robert Kraft will still own the Pats....or at worst, his son will take over. You can't fault the son for daddy's little " pleasure excursion ".......If anything, I'm afraid NE has it's motivation headline for this season right in front of them...win one for Bob.....you are dreaming if you think BB and Brady might retire because of this ...if anything, they are more dangerous.....and have the perfect " us vs the world " story.....and we all know how much they love that stuff.....

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3 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

 

Robert Kraft will still own the Pats....or at worst, his son will take over. You can't fault the son for daddy's little " pleasure excursion ".......If anything, I'm afraid NE has it's motivation headline for this season right in front of them...win one for Bob.....you are dreaming if you think BB and Brady might retire because of this ...if anything, they are more dangerous.....and have the perfect " us vs the world " story.....and we all know how much they love that stuff.....

  This matter will be a huge embarrassment to the NFL and one they will want to be rid of ASAP.  Kraft's day in court will be less than a slap on the wrist for him but the media attention will break him and the NFL if it is left at a fine.  Letting Jr take over while Bob still owns the team will tell many who are not rabid NFL fans that the NFL does not take human trafficking seriously.  From the Kraft's standpoint that punishment is far worse than the crime but the league is first and foremost about PR and revenue with no sacred cows in those objectives.

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8 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  This matter will be a huge embarrassment to the NFL and one they will want to be rid of ASAP.  Kraft's day in court will be less than a slap on the wrist for him but the media attention will break him and the NFL if it is left at a fine.  Letting Jr take over while Bob still owns the team will tell many who are not rabid NFL fans that the NFL does not take human trafficking seriously.  From the Kraft's standpoint that punishment is far worse than the crime but the league is first and foremost about PR and revenue with no sacred cows in those objectives.

IDK, you're reasoning is solid.  But I think Goodell lets him off with a minor penalty.  I don't think Roger wants to pick a fight with Kraft again.  

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2 minutes ago, stony said:

IDK, you're reasoning is solid.  But I think Goodell lets him off with a minor penalty.  I don't think Roger wants to pick a fight with Kraft again.  

  Too much political hay to be made by groups such as MeToo for Goodell to take a "boys will be boys" approach to this.  Kraft was a one time Trump supporter and we know how those guys are treated at present.  Kraft might find the best way out is to sell and get out of public view.

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2 minutes ago, stony said:

IDK, you're reasoning is solid.  But I think Goodell lets him off with a minor penalty.  I don't think Roger wants to pick a fight with Kraft again.  

It's not a question of what Goodell wants.  If it benefits the owners to not have Kraft in the club, he's out. If they want to keep him in the club,  the penalty will be something that sounds really harsh (fine and suspension), but that really isn't, just pr

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1 minute ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

It's not a question of what Goodell wants.  If it benefits the owners to not have Kraft in the club, he's out. If they want to keep him in the club,  the penalty will be something that sounds really harsh (fine and suspension), but that really isn't, just pr

  If you are Kraft how do you look Kim Pegula in the eye at an owner's meeting after this.  One report had Korean's listed among ethnicities probable at that parlor.

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4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Too much political hay to be made by groups such as MeToo for Goodell to take a "boys will be boys" approach to this.  Kraft was a one time Trump supporter and we know how those guys are treated at present.  Kraft might find the best way out is to sell and get out of public view.

It's probably a good time to sell, anyway. The NFL seems to be hitting its peak.

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1 hour ago, Elite Poster said:

 

If you follow the guy's Twitter, he's being serious. He's saying that prostitution is legal in Vegas so why not other places. They are conveniently leaving out the human trafficking part because it kills their entire point, but that's just the way things are these days. Selective argument. 

 

I've never understood why news that leans liberal is MSM and propaganda, but the MOST WATCHED news Network that leans conservative, is not MSM and propaganda. 

 

They are both pretty awful to me and it's plainly obvious. 

MSM is ALL propaganda. They ALL receive their 4am news drop for their talking points from the CIA. Ask your self why do all news media ALWAYS follow the EXACT same talking points. Do you ever hear about the French protests? Wonder why ten of thousands are protesting their liberal government EVERY Saturday. Do you hear that Trump has been cleared of Collusion, that stock market is up, unemployment is dropping? NOPE.. 

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4 minutes ago, lookylookyherecomescookie said:

It's not a question of what Goodell wants.  If it benefits the owners to not have Kraft in the club, he's out. If they want to keep him in the club,  the penalty will be something that sounds really harsh (fine and suspension), but that really isn't, just pr

There is a hierarchy among the owners and Kraft is right near the top.  His strongest allies will not force him out.  He's in the club.  As you say, he'll receive the PR punishment. 

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1 hour ago, iinii said:

Why hasn’t this thread been moved or locked? This is a criminal/social matter and has zero football content. It is becoming a public critique of a private matter. It appears to be an alleged misdemeanor. No charges, let alone convictions, but since it is the Patriots everyone is having a grand time ridiculing the hated empire. Why don’t we just beat them at football as opposed to mocking them and throwing rocks? 

 

 

Because PPP is as rancid, depraved, and in sweeping need of better hygiene than any room or girl at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa

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19 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said:

MSM is ALL propaganda. They ALL receive their 4am news drop for their talking points from the CIA. Ask your self why do all news media ALWAYS follow the EXACT same talking points. Do you ever hear about the French protests? Wonder why ten of thousands are protesting their liberal government EVERY Saturday. Do you hear that Trump has been cleared of Collusion, that stock market is up, unemployment is dropping? NOPE.. 

Yawn

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My problem will be if MR Kraft  knew of the human trafficking situation at this fine establishment before going to get serviced. If he did,this is a major problem and he will have to sell the team and his legacy will be severely tarnished. But in reality if he was going in for a quick $50 afternoon delight I personally feel it falls to the level of Gronk walking down the street with a cold beer, or Marcell Dareus smoking a J. All three acts are illegal in most places but are accepted by most people. I dislike Kraft and the Patriots and everything they stand for as much as everyone on this board but come on it’s just an old horny guy trying to be cool. It’s sad a billionaire can’t do better than that ?

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8 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Because PPP is as rancid, depraved, and in sweeping need of better hygiene than any room or girl at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa

  Given the huge quantity of posters being indifferent to human trafficking here I would say that PPP is a beacon of enlightenment in comparison.  

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