BuffAlone Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Didn't Jerry Richardson get forced to sell the Panthers over workplace sexual harassment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 45 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Any guy that walks into one of those places knows exactly what the deal is and generally how those girls got there. This isn't a consensual business transaction with some independent online escort or pornstar (though I assume he was heavily involved in that too). This is akin to the sexpats that go to Thailand to dip into underage slaves. Sadly, he'll only get a slap on the wrist and be on his way. But make no mistake, despite his riches, he is morally bankrupt. I agree. He’s a billionaire who paid 79/hr for sex from an Asian girl who reportedly has minimal hygiene at a place next to a Bdubs in a strip mall . Even if he didn’t know before he went the first time. He was charged with two visits so he went back after seeing it once. This isn’t naivete at place. Are we supposed to believe he’s that stupid that he didn’t know what the deal was at this place? He wasn’t part of the human trafficking but he did contribute to it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BuffAlone said: Didn't Jerry Richardson get forced to sell the Panthers over workplace sexual harassment? ...yet Jurrah's sexual harassment allegations disappeared......hmmm........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Another ring for the Pats. It never ends tbh. No need to read all 26 pages, this won't be topped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Good points. Agree that Goodell has to come down hard on Kraft. I don't think that any punishment that Goodell comes up with should be dictated by the media. The media's job is to report...that's it. I do think the other 31 owner's advice/opinions probably should be sought out as it is a small fraternity and they all have to work together on league issues. It will be interesting to see the final verdict. Kraft's star will fall hard, for sure, but I'm not sure he'll be forced to sell the franchise ala Carolina. Bob Kraft will most likely be banished from the NFL and his son will run the franchise. Clearly, Brady should be suspended. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I agree. He’s a billionaire who paid 79/hr for sex from an Asian girl who reportedly has minimal hygiene at a place next to a Bdubs in a strip mall . Even if he didn’t know before he went the first time. He was charged with two visits so he went back after seeing it once. This isn’t naivete at place. Are we supposed to believe he’s that stupid that he didn’t know what the deal was at this place? He wasn’t part of the human trafficking but he did contribute to it. I don't think that is remotely true. Sure, the guy is going to know that these women are prostitutes to some degree, and the entire business is shady and sketchy, but not at all that they are victims of human trafficking or slaves or cannot leave the premises. I would imagine the vast majority think that these women are just doing a ***** job that most often includes sex for money, and know what they are doing and getting into. I mean your average guy going into a place like this. No Kraft. I have no idea what he did or didn't know. Edited February 22, 2019 by Kelly the Dog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...yet Jurrah's sexual harassment allegations disappeared......hmmm........ I think that if Jurrah is backed into a corner he has some JR Ewing in him if you know what I mean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: This will be a very interesting thread to revisit when this situation resolves. I think the Patriot hate is fueling some overreactions. Agreed, manufactured outrage as opposed to level headed rational thought. Global warming is not what will kill the species, societal upheaval due to social media destroying civil discourse will be our downfall. Edited February 22, 2019 by WhyteDwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Clearly, Brady should be suspended. ? By his balls? Probably would be done at the same brothel that would hook a battery charger to a guy's nads. I am sure Kraft could make a recommendation on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) ...guess in all honesty, he's a 77 year old widower who lost his wife to cancer and thought he had a main 30 something squeeze on his arm in public....she certainly passed the "gold digger smell test".......probably (COUGH) could have found a more discreet "relief valve" versus this strip mall debacle...... Edited February 22, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Didn't Jerry Richardson get forced to sell the Panthers over workplace sexual harassment? For systemic decades long sexual harassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I don't think that is remotely true. Sure, the guy is going to know that these women are prostitutes to some degree, and the entire business is shady and sketchy, but not at all that they are victims of human trafficking or slaves or cannot leave the premises. I would imagine the vast majority think that these women are just doing a ***** job that most often includes sex for money, and know what they are doing and getting into. I don’t think he could know the full extent of the horror, but I think at least part of that comes from not wanting to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I think this post was fun before the politicians started chirping so loudly. Blah Blah BS zzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 52 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Secure the border and maybe there will be less trafficking... Can't tell if you're serious, but yeah. In general terms, huge investigations like this help gain more insight into trafficking, which leads to a more secure border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: By his balls? Probably would be done at the same brothel that would hook a battery charger to a guy's nads. I am sure Kraft could make a recommendation on this. I believe you pay extra for that......can’t say for sure....I’ll chip in the upcharge for Brady because I’m that kind of guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Augie said: Clearly, Brady should be suspended. ? Would be nice, but he's still the face of "The Shield." It's not Mahomes, not yet, anyway. I can't wait to see how many draft picks NE gets taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, whatdrought said: We live in a country of piss poor punishment. Everything is a plea deal and community service. Nothing says recidivism like "I had to pay a fine." I know from a real standpoint it doesn't work, but what about forced castration on men who use trafficked prostitutes? That'd ruffle some feathers. That's not necessarily true. Everyone talks about the justice system being biased against minorities, but the real story is that it's biased against those without means. Money can absolutely buy freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: Would be nice, but he's still the face of "The Shield." It's not Mahomes, not yet, anyway. I can't wait to see how many draft picks NE gets taken away. It's personal conduct away from the team so it would not be fair to penalize the Pats that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t think he could know the full extent of the horror, but I think at least part of that comes from not wanting to know. True. And we don't really know yet what this place was like or looked like inside (out of the hygiene rumors). If there are girls that look 16 years old in there of course you would think it's 100x more trouble than if they are 30-40. I'm just saying there are tens and tens of thousands of little massage parlors in this country and most of them are pretty legit, a huge number are shady to some degree where you may get some sex in there and a small percentage are actually using slaves and human trafficking. That small percentage is actually a large number because there are so many in total and it's one of the worst things in the world. I'm not in any way saying it doesn't happen or it's okay in any way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsSB2020 said: That's not necessarily true. Everyone talks about the justice system being biased against minorities, but the real story is that it's biased against those without means. Money can absolutely buy freedom. Andy Dufruense could not buy his freedom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Andy Dufruense could not buy his freedom. You must have just watched that movie to come up with such an outstanding reference. Top 5 on my all time list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: That's not necessarily true. Everyone talks about the justice system being biased against minorities, but the real story is that it's biased against those without means. Money can absolutely buy freedom. If it doesn't fit. You must acquit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: True. And we don't really know yet what this place was like or looked like inside (out of the hygiene rumors). If there are girls that look 16 years old in there of course you would think it's 100x more trouble than if they are 30-40. I'm just saying there are tens and tens of thousands of little massage parlors in this country and most of them are pretty legit, a huge number are shady to some degree where you may get some sex in there and a small percentage are actually using slaves and human trafficking. That small percentage is actually a large number because there are so many in total and it's one of the worst things in the world. I'm not in any way saying it doesn't happen or it's okay in any way. I know a few people in area law enforcement. Most escort services or parlors are very careful to avoid any woman that looks underage. If a woman is there underage she probably has been given a good quality fake ID as a cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: True. And we don't really know yet what this place was like or looked like inside (out of the hygiene rumors). If there are girls that look 16 years old in there of course you would think it's 100x more trouble than if they are 30-40. I'm just saying there are tens and tens of thousands of little massage parlors in this country and most of them are pretty legit, a huge number are shady to some degree where you may get some sex in there and a small percentage are actually using slaves and human trafficking. That small percentage is actually a large number because there are so many in total and it's one of the worst things in the world. I'm not in any way saying it doesn't happen or it's okay in any way. Wow, never thought THAT for a second! It’s part of the seedy underworld we know so little about, but is much larger than we could ever imagine. And it’s hard to imagine any more horrific. Glad this one got shut down, and I hope that the publicity about this could make at least a tiny little dent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If it doesn't fit. You must acquit. Just think, if the gloves did fit, maybe the world would be spared from Keeping up with the Kardashians garbage. Edited February 22, 2019 by WhyteDwarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Didn't Jerry Richardson get forced to sell the Panthers over workplace sexual harassment? Yes. The only way I can rationalize this is that workplace sexual harassment is a form of bullying, therefore Jerry Richardson is a bully. Kraft, as of now, is just horny. There is no proof (at least not yet) that he know the spa was participating in human trafficking. If it is proven that Kraft knew this and still patronized the spa, it only gets worse for him. 8 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: It's personal conduct away from the team so it would not be fair to penalize the Pats that way. I know. Augie and I were just joking about suspending Brady for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: Yes. The only way I can rationalize this is that workplace sexual harassment is a form of bullying, therefore Jerry Richardson is a bully. Kraft, as of now, is just horny. There is no proof (at least not yet) that he know the spa was participating in human trafficking. If it is proven that Kraft knew this and still patronized the spa, it only gets worse for him. You go to a “spa” for a ***** you have to know something is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: That's what I thought. Don't shoot up a pizza parlor you whack job. Exactly. I say the same thing to the mentally unstable Bernie supporters (but i repeat myself) about shooting up congressional baseball practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Just want to make sure you're not talking about the patrons, because it seems a lot of ppl are... Sorry , that it was a rude post. I would NEVER say anything about the sex slaves, they either do what they are told or are killed. Most people don't understand that! As far as the Patrons, they should be (if they knew) should be held accountable and potentially castrated as it is in my eyes a form of rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 ...I tragically lost my wife in 2015 to an egregious hospital accident but have vowed to "go it alone" before EVER stooping to some "pig for a poke"...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Wow, never thought THAT for a second! It’s part of the seedy underworld we know so little about, but is much larger than we could ever imagine. And it’s hard to imagine any more horrific. Glad this one got shut down, and I hope that the publicity about this could make at least a tiny little dent. Yeah, we really don't know. I am not naive about this stuff. Within a couple miles of my pretty nice neighborhood of Sherman Oaks in LA, there are at least ten little massage parlors, most of which look like they are run by Asians. I'm pretty sure, without knowing, that you may be able to get sex in a couple of them. I would bet a lot of money that most of them are legit and not one of them is part of a human trafficking ring. But I don't know for sure, and don't know anyone that has used one of them. I do know a girl that worked in one and not a chance she would have had sex at work with a client. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: You go to a “spa” for a ***** you have to know something is wrong. I agree that Kraft went for the happy ending, or more, Not sure how it will be proven that he knew the girls are trafficked in and/or are minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said: Agreed, manufactured outrage as opposed to level headed rational thought. Global warming is not what will kill the species, societal upheaval due to social media destroying civil discourse will be our downfall. I don't know if it will cause our downfall, but social media is really the change that has brought out a lot of the conflicts. Society has to adjust the noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yeah, we really don't know. I am not naive about this stuff. Within a couple miles of my pretty nice neighborhood of Sherman Oaks in LA, there are at least ten little massage parlors, most of which look like they are run by Asians. I'm pretty sure, without knowing, that you may be able to get sex in a couple of them. I would bet a lot of money that most of them are legit and not one of them is part of a human trafficking ring. But I don't know for sure, and don't know anyone that has used one of them. I do know a girl that worked in one and not a chance she would have had sex at work with a client. Right. Human trafficking is disgraceful and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but it's naive to think there are not a lot of women willingly making these transactions. It's the oldest profession in the world. Ironically, Robert Kraft looks like the oldest man in the world so he may have been there at it's inception. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, OJ Tom said: I don't know if it will cause our downfall, but social media is really the change that has brought out a lot of the conflicts. Society has to adjust the noise. Yep. Social media is just the amplifier of many things...including our collective self-righteousness. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I agree that Kraft went for the happy ending, or more, Not sure how it will be proven that he knew the girls are trafficked in and/or are minors. The girls probably look 12 years old and maybe weigh 80 pounds from malnutrition. It won't get him in court but he still has to deal with the world at large. I guess no more Friday meetings with Jim Nance ahead of a Sunday national game involving the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nedboy7 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, H2o said: She is hot. Who could resist her. May I get her digits for my friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Captain Murica said: Seems like the little masshole is a little upset because one of his own finally got caught for being the scum he is. Well that's interesting. Bigger name than a multibillionaire owner of the most successful franchise in recent history. Hmm. Who would qualify as bigger than that? Almost has to be major politician doesn't it? I guess maybe athletes are more famous but kraft is certainly more wealthy and powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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