GreggTX Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Don't bother reading the rookie grades report on Buffalo in this series. He doesn't even mention Wallace, who graded out higher than any rookie on our roster. Clearly the author (Nick Shook) didn't do his homework. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Appears you are all Shook up.. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Appears you are all Shook up.. Me and Elvis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Links are your friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On Darnold: Quote The Jets are thrilled by the potential of Darnold, who looks like he might be able to develop into the franchise quarterback the team has sorely needed. On Allen: Quote Allen's evaluation depends on who you talk to: He's better than anyone else Buffalo had at the position after trading away Tyrod Taylor, but his passing at multiple depths of the field needs work. His big arm created some highlight completions, and his running ability was the talk of the town, but he's yet to prove he'll be "the guy" in Buffalo. He has the tools to improve, though. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001017446/article/afc-east-rookie-grades-sam-darnold-gives-jets-reason-to-hope complete bs. Also, as per the OP's point, he references Jackson, the Pats UDFA CB, but not Wallace. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: On Darnold: On Allen: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001017446/article/afc-east-rookie-grades-sam-darnold-gives-jets-reason-to-hope complete bs. Also, as per the OP's point, he references Jackson, the Pats UDFA CB, but not Wallace. What a joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Absolutely absurd write-up. Correct, no mention of Levi Wallace. Where 3 Bills rookies (Allen, Foster, Wallace) would have been 1st round selection in the "redraft" article they published just last week. And I'm so sick of the accuracy topic on Allen. The same redraft had him picked at #3 instead of #7, so that's higher, right? Has to be an 'A', lazy journalism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I don't get too worked up over this stuff. Its hard to track every player in the league, much less a below 500 team's undrafted rookies, even if they provided significant contributions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, cage said: Absolutely absurd write-up. Correct, no mention of Levi Wallace. Where 3 Bills rookies (Allen, Foster, Wallace) would have been 1st round selection in the "redraft" article they published just last week. And I'm so sick of the accuracy topic on Allen. The same redraft had him picked at #3 instead of #7, so that's higher, right? Has to be an 'A', lazy journalism. I mean sort of he was still the 3rd QB picked with the Giants taking Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 It's lazy journalism and there really isn't an excuse for it. There are 32 teams in this league, if you're going to cover the NFL, you should have a working knowledge of all 32 teams beyond talking points and retweets. Bottom line is that was passes for journalism works in circles these days: 1- Uninformed person #1 writes a poor story; 2- "Insiders" retweet person #1's story; 3- A narrative is established. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, teef said: meh. Or... Meth ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Comebackkid said: Or... Meth ? you holding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, teef said: you holding? Go fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, whatdrought said: On Darnold: On Allen: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001017446/article/afc-east-rookie-grades-sam-darnold-gives-jets-reason-to-hope complete bs. Also, as per the OP's point, he references Jackson, the Pats UDFA CB, but not Wallace. When I read stuff like this....I feel like I am watching Foxnews or something and someone trying to explain away what I am seeing with my own two eyes....... Well yes......he showed he can do this but meanwhile Isnt this other guy just awesome just cuz we said so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: When I read stuff like this....I feel like I am watching CNN/MSNBC/CBS or something and someone trying to explain away what I am seeing with my own two eyes....... Well yes......he showed he can do this but meanwhile Isnt this other guy just awesome just cuz we said so? Fixed it for ya. 4 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Fixed it for ya. No I think I had it right the first time......the Trump Network is much more fun to watch for misinformation 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: On Darnold: On Allen: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001017446/article/afc-east-rookie-grades-sam-darnold-gives-jets-reason-to-hope complete bs. Also, as per the OP's point, he references Jackson, the Pats UDFA CB, but not Wallace. the Jets should be thrilled with Darnold, he looks great and I have no doubt he'll be a star. I think Allen will turn out to be a very good QB as well, but right now , Darnold is ahead, but not by much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haplo848 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I don't get too worked up over this stuff. Its hard to track every player in the league, much less a below 500 team's undrafted rookies, even if they provided significant contributions. I mean, it's not like it's this guy's job to do so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TigerJ Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 The main focus of the article seems to be the draft picks of AFC East teams, but the omission of Levi Wallace is still pretty glaring. As far as Josh Allen is concerned, I can't really disagree with what he said. From the skeptic's perspective, he has much to prove and needs a lot of work in his passing. As a fan, what I see is a QB who was not even expected to start, who came in and was on an accelerated learning curve. He was a far better QB in December than he was in September, and he possessed essential traits that suggest the learning curve is likely to continue through next season and beyond. It is not unreasonable to hope that eventually he's going to be really good. In particular, in comparison with Sam Darnold, Josh Allen seems to be far more of a natural leader, to go with his superior athletic ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I will say that Bills fan's opinion of Josh Allen seems to have been steadily growing since the regular season ended. He went from a promising rookie with great running ability but a lot to work on in the passing game, to practically a sure-fire franchise QB. I think fans might be a little disappointed to see a Josh Allen that still needs development, still makes mistakes, still misses some throws, etc. when next season starts. And I foresee a lot of fans scratching their heads and wondering if they were wrong about him. I think the truth is he is a promising QB with a lot of upside but a lot to work on. He won't be anywhere near a finished product by next season. That said, yes it was a lazy article that didn't do justice to the promising rookie class of the Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, klos63 said: the Jets should be thrilled with Darnold, he looks great and I have no doubt he'll be a star. I think Allen will turn out to be a very good QB as well, but right now , Darnold is ahead, but not by much. At this point I would agree. Darnold turned it on late but had struggled alot up to that point. For Allen to be in the same ballpark is more impressive as he was expected to be behind the other QBs and was extremely raw coming out of college. Edited February 12, 2019 by billieve420 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 19 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I don't get too worked up over this stuff. Its hard to track every player in the league, much less a below 500 team's undrafted rookies, even if they provided significant contributions. yeah - it's hard to do one's job I guess ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 15 hours ago, klos63 said: the Jets should be thrilled with Darnold, he looks great and I have no doubt he'll be a star. I think Allen will turn out to be a very good QB as well, but right now , Darnold is ahead, but not by much. I'd also have Darnold ranked above but only by a pinch - I just give him the edge as a passer and that is why he shades it for #2 rookie QB behind Mayfield for me. But to be honest if you are going to say the Jets are thrilled with Darnold you should probably have a similar view of how the Bills feel about Allen. I think the Bills are legitimately thrilled with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: yeah - it's hard to do one's job I guess ? His job is to cover the NFL generally. I suspect that no one outside of the Bills' fanbase cares about our overachieving un-drafted rookie corner. He is catering to the NFL audience as a whole. He did that just fine here, with or without a few severely minor missing pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billmon06 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It doesn’t matter to me if Darnold is considered by the national media to be the Boy Wonder QB of the NFL. I don’t suppose Allen pays any attention to the national media’s wishful, wanderlust opinions. He’s had to deal with the second guessing ever since Wyoming. What else is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 19 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I don't get too worked up over this stuff. Its hard to track every player in the league, much less a below 500 team's undrafted rookies, even if they provided significant contributions. I get that... However, when you are doing a specific article on the AFC East, and AFC East only teams, that article is only requiring you to look at 35ish players, you should do your freaking home work on those 35 or so players. Not the 500+ in the entire league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Did I hear something about meth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Did I hear something about meth? LOL I had to laugh at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Really dont have a problem with anyone rating Darnold ahead For now........ Next year when Josh Allen starts throwing for 250 - 300 yards passing this better flip quickly though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I'd also have Darnold ranked above but only by a pinch - I just give him the edge as a passer and that is why he shades it for #2 rookie QB behind Mayfield for me. But to be honest if you are going to say the Jets are thrilled with Darnold you should probably have a similar view of how the Bills feel about Allen. I think the Bills are legitimately thrilled with him. I agree, I think the Bills are thrilled with Allen, as am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 After an extensive investigation, it turns out that sports beat writer, Nick Shook, had done all of his research on not the Buffalo Bills, but on Mr. Bill's Bowling Lanes, a defunct bowling alley in Columbus, Ohio. When confronted about leaving Levi Wallace out of his report, Shook was quick to remark: "That twerp couldn't break 150 if his life depended on it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Did I hear something about meth? Me thinks the writer has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 If you want to see a joke, look at how they grade the Pats. The Pats had pretty much zero impact from any of their rookies except for Michel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 2:37 PM, GreggTX said: Me and Elvis. Uhhh thank ya GreggTX, thank ya vury much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 5:33 PM, John from Riverside said: No I think I had it right the first time......the Trump Network is much more fun to watch for misinformation I think we should keep real life politics out of the forums is what I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Not that surprising the Bills never get any respect when its actually due they only want to use them as a whipping boy but i think soon they are going to have to give them their due weather they want to or not !! GO BILLS !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 3:30 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said: Links are your friend. Why would he privide a link to an article he says people shouldnt bother reading. 3 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think we should keep real life politics out of the forums is what I think. I usually end up getting warning points when they come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 2/12/2019 at 11:28 AM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: His job is to cover the NFL generally. I suspect that no one outside of the Bills' fanbase cares about our overachieving un-drafted rookie corner. He is catering to the NFL audience as a whole. He did that just fine here, with or without a few severely minor missing pieces. Well another national media guy found time to have Wallace drafted in the first in a mock redraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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