Niagara Dude Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 9 hours ago, billvernsays said: But is it just me or does it seem like he gets called a whole lot less for Holding and Pass Interference penalties. In Buffalo he gets flags in New England announcers drool over his “coverage skills” Great point, when was drafted he came here a very physical corner, translation is he uses his hands a lot. That one play should have been PI in endzone and the refs let it slide because PATS winning is a great story . You watch him in coverage and always has hands on player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 8 hours ago, billvernsays said: I’m not only talking about tonight, all season watching the Pats it seems like the announcers are showing replays of Gilmore’s brilliant coverage but all I see is the same exact physical coverage that he used to get flagged for left and right while he was here. I didn’t immediately see this years count but his first year with the pats vs last year here- he had 1 more penalty here but more yards there i suspect he’s in more “let them play and don’t let a flag decide the game” moments these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 8 hours ago, dave mcbride said: This thread: LOL. Sometimes I wonder if Bills fans get exactly what they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 9 hours ago, billvernsays said: But is it just me or does it seem like he gets called a whole lot less for Holding and Pass Interference penalties. In Buffalo he gets flags in New England announcers drool over his “coverage skills” On the Pats, he tries harder. He dogged it more than once for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 8 hours ago, KW95 - JA17 said: I never saw a replay....... I did and Romo even said it was not a hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 8 hours ago, dave mcbride said: This thread: LOL. The thread takes its usual turns, but the OP is correct. Gilmore is a very good CB whose coverage is physical. He's getting away with far more contact now than he ever did in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Gilbert and the other guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, GG said: The thread takes its usual turns, but the OP is correct. Gilmore is a very good CB whose coverage is physical. He's getting away with far more contact now than he ever did in Buffalo. It's an experience thing more than anything else. People just forget how much he got away with in his final year here. Don't we remember him mauling Allen Robinson on a key stop to beat the Jags right in front of an official? It's like that with corners. Once you get recognized as a great corner, you get away with more. But as the numbers show, he's actually been penalized more in NE than Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 9 hours ago, billvernsays said: I’m not only talking about tonight, all season watching the Pats it seems like the announcers are showing replays of Gilmore’s brilliant coverage but all I see is the same exact physical coverage that he used to get flagged for left and right while he was here. His entire time on the cheaters has been that way. It's more evidence of the blatent favoritism the receive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: It's an experience thing more than anything else. People just forget how much he got away with in his final year here. Don't we remember him mauling Allen Robinson on a key stop to beat the Jags right in front of an official? It's like that with corners. Once you get recognized as a great corner, you get away with more. But as the numbers show, he's actually been penalized more in NE than Buffalo The timing of the penalties (quarter, down) is also crucial. Of course we're biased, but it's crazy not to think that he's not getting more of a benefit of the doubt now that he's in NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: Really proud of my guy. He's copped nothing but ***** from this fanbase for 7 years, him and his family have been harrassed no end on social media. I really hope Stephon, Gabrielle and the kids enjoy this one. He's a good egg and he deserves it. I feel SO badly for him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 A lot of people felt he deserved to be the Super Bowl MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Gilmore was running the Rams' routes last night, which is a testament to his film study and preparation (an overlooked aspect of his game when he was in Buffalo). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Ray Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I honestly believe as a few have mentioned that Gilmore was a good CB in Buffalo who didn't go all out, especially in the run game. Perhaps he was saving himself for free agency, perhaps it was poor coaching, maybe both. But I dont think there is any denying that he is a very good CB now and certainly must get better coaching than he did in Buffalo. I do agree too that he gets away with a little more borderline interference, unless it is obviously blatant. My biggest issue though just goes back to the lack of effort he gave in tackling. I had no issue with his coverage skills while he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Told my friend...hed get called for 3 holding/PIs a game in Buffalo. Nothing in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Lol... It was the refs fault ( again..) You can laugh all you want, it’s a fact that really good teams get preferential calls. Theres no way on this Earth that Gilmore is an All Pro. No ***** way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 He was always really good. But some fans are stupid and were bitter that he didn’t smile. Clearly, Belichick thought different. Whaley sucks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Gilmore was running the Rams' routes last night, which is a testament to his film study and preparation (an overlooked aspect of his game when he was in Buffalo). I could have run the Rams routes yesterday. whats not mentioned is the holding he does to stay with said player. He gets away with it in NE because of what they are. Ive watched him burned on many plays this year and I haven’t seen most of his games. Hes exactly the same corner he was here. I really liked Gilmore here, but he’s no All Pro, I don’t care what anyone says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 hours ago, KW95 - JA17 said: I never saw a replay....... They showed a replay and Romo was like, ehh, I wouldn't have called that in this situation. Rams had just picked up their 3rd first down (one was on a penalty) of the drive after the 16 yard comeback to Cooks. I'm absolutely shocked the pat* benefited from a timely penalty. 4th quarter, other team is finally moving the ball, tie game. Good time for a hold. Yes I'm bitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, dlonce said: I could have run the Rams routes yesterday. whats not mentioned is the holding he does to stay with said player. He gets away with it in NE because of what they are. Ive watched him burned on many plays this year and I haven’t seen most of his games. Hes exactly the same corner he was here. I really liked Gilmore here, but he’s no All Pro, I don’t care what anyone says. Haha. Belichick paid him a ton of money, he got voted 1st team all pro by the media, was PFF’s highest ranked corner. But dlonce says he’s no all pro and that’s what matters! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Whaley sucks. Glad to see you're coming around to reality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Gilmore has always been a good player. He does have a tendency to get burned from time to time and get up after the play looking around like someone else was the cause of his miscue but other than that, he's always been solid. Every DB gets beat. Sometimes with this board you'd think the only way to call a player good or great is if they have a perfect 100% success rate on every down. It's just interesting that they're naming him the best corner in the league right now when honestly, his play has neither elevated nor lowered since he left here. Crazy how much of a difference it makes when you're on a winning team that gets all the attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 11 hours ago, billvernsays said: But is it just me or does it seem like he gets called a whole lot less for Holding and Pass Interference penalties. In Buffalo he gets flags in New England announcers drool over his “coverage skills” Oh nonsense, he was by far the best DB on the team while in buffalo. His glaring weakness was run support. It was logical not to pay top CB money especially with a new scheme that favors zone over press man, but he earned that contract on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, dlonce said: You can laugh all you want, it’s a fact that really good teams get preferential calls. Theres no way on this Earth that Gilmore is an All Pro. No ***** way. Actually, he's an all pro. Like, literally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He was always really good. But some fans are stupid and were bitter that he didn’t smile. Clearly, Belichick thought different. Whaley sucks. you are far too sensitive to what everyone else thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: you are far too sensitive to what everyone else thinks. Honestly, I don’t care at all. I’ve just never seen a good player who never got in trouble, get so much stupid hate. But clearly, things didn’t work out for Gilmore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Honestly, I don’t care at all. I’ve just never seen a good player who never got in trouble, get so much stupid hate. But clearly, things didn’t work out for Gilmore. i think you care a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, teef said: you are far too sensitive to what everyone else thinks. it's valid to be that way for only one team in each sport or on games you lost at least $1,000 or an equally weighted "bet of honour" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) He's a great player but he had checked out mentally by his last season with the Bills and wasn't giving the effort he is now on the Pats. I don't blame Bills fans at all for not liking him and Bills coaches/front office for not wanting to make him the highest paid corner in the league while he wasn't giving a full effort and the new regime is trying to build their foundation. We should have tagged him though. We probably would have got a least a second for him in a trade. Edited February 4, 2019 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, teef said: i think you care a lot. i think the others hate too much actually. Big difference. This fan base has some weird condition where they hate pretty much everyone except two rookies. Edited February 4, 2019 by nedboy7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ramza86 said: Told my friend...hed get called for 3 holding/PIs a game in Buffalo. Nothing in New England. You do realize that none of what you said is true right? Stop lying to your friends. Edited February 4, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: i think the others hate too much actually. Big difference. we all just need to learn to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, teef said: i think you care a lot. Sure teef. The second I do, I will end my time here haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Sure teef. The second I do, I will end my time here haha. i don't want a board without a biscuit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I smell tons of caring going on in here. Oh, hi Biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Gilmore was good. Not GREAT. I see nothing different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: I smell tons of caring going on in here. Oh, hi Biscuit. are you hitting on me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 12 hours ago, OJ Tom said: The Rams got beat. The Pats controlled the game. Stop Whining, it's not going to change anything. Did they really control the game? It looked pretty close to me.....the problem is the Rams win in blow outs and the Pats know how to win close games. Cooks doesnt drop a TD pass that hits him right in the hands this could have played out very differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, teef said: are you hitting on me? WHEN I hit on you, and believe me I will. You’ll know it, pal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Did they really control the game? It looked pretty close to me.....the problem is the Rams win in blow outs and the Pats know how to win close games. Cooks doesnt drop a TD pass that hits him right in the hands this could have played out very differently Cooks is so soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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