WizdomCalling Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I say back up the brinks truck and get Tony Romo. The guy proves Everytime he is calling a game he understands the game on a entirely different level. I know it's a pipe dream but hey it's the internet a guy can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: ... Whether QB or WR... he was great for Allen’s development which begs the question, why did we let him leave? did we even have an opportunity to retain him? did he believe he would be better suited to work with Jackson? was working with Roman too enticing to pass up? something sure seems odd here. Edited January 29, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Football coaches are football coaches. You go with the money. He was a QB coach who turned WR coach Culley is an offensive football coach. He knows plenty about the QB position ... it’s not like he was a DB specialist Andy Reid is a “QB guru” who never played QB... was an oline coach by trade and then QB coach for a few seasons ... he knows how to coach offense Every single person around Culley vouches that he’s an amazing coach. Whether QB or WR... he was great for Allen’s development Was he? How do you know? Maybe you're right, but he was our QB coach for the last 2 years and it didn't seem like Culley was responsible for much production from the position. I don't think it was coincidental that Allen's improvements coincided with our acquisition of Anderson off the street and Allen getting the opportunity to be on the bench for a while. You might be right, but I just don't know why you assume he was great for Allen's development or why he isn't relatively easily up-gradable as a QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 If we did hire Palmer do you think he would give the bills defense\coaching intel on Darnold ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Was he? How do you know? Maybe you're right, but he was our QB coach for the last 2 years and it didn't seem like Culley was responsible for much production from the position. I don't think it was coincidental that Allen's improvements coincided with our acquisition of Anderson off the street and Allen getting the opportunity to be on the bench for a while. You might be right, but I just don't know why you assume he was great for Allen's development or why he isn't relatively easily up-gradable as a QB coach. Maybe our qbs just weren’t good. It strikes me as people blaming TR for our crappy receivers. Know who a good qb coach is? Whoever the Saints, Chiefs, and Pats have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Maybe our qbs just weren’t good. It strikes me as people blaming TR for our crappy receivers. Know who a good qb coach is? Whoever the Saints, Chiefs, and Pats have! https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/01/29/david-culley-hired-away-buffalo-bills-baltimore-ravens-josh-allen/2711845002/ Buffalo Bills in need of new quarterbacks coach as Ravens poach David Culley McDermott’s hiring of Culley in 2017 for his original Bills’ staff was always met with a bit of curiosity because he had never coached quarterbacks in the NFL. Culley spent the first 23 years of his NFL coaching career teaching wide receivers with the Steelers, Eagles and Chiefs. He and McDermott spent several years together on the Philadelphia staff of Andy Reid, so familiarity was one of the reasons he was brought to Buffalo, but putting him in charge of quarterbacks seemed odd. Allen often spoke highly of Culley, but Allen was a rookie who spoke highly of everyone. Perhaps Culley helped Allen, but this seems like a great opportunity for McDermott to hire a true quarterbacks coach to take a deeper dive with the first-round pick. One candidate could be Jordan Palmer, who helped Allen in the lead-up to the 2018 draft and will be working with him over the next couple months in Southern California. However, Palmer has his own quarterback-training business, Summit QB, and he may not be interested in working with a specific team. Another name worth considering is Jim Bob Cooter, the former offensive coordinator in Detroit who worked on the same Kansas City Chiefs staff as Brian Daboll in 2012. That year when Daboll was the offensive coordinator, Cooter was a quality control coordinator. And one more possibility would be former University of Miami quarterback Ken Dorsey. He is the offensive coordinator at Appalachian State, but was on the Carolina Panthers staff with McDermott as quarterbacks coach from 2013-17. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said: Haha, they are using Peterman!!! Maybe the 5th round qb just sucks! We also forced TT into a west coast offense which many posters here knew was a disaster. And Allen was a 56% passer in the MEC. Kinda reaching for reasons to hate on DC. I mean if he struggled with Rodgers, that’s something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Barkley getting up to speed so quickly and having a good game is a big feather in Culley' cap. Daboll as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 So hire him once the camps begin so he can continue to work with him in the off season. Once hired, he is aunder NFL rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Maybe our qbs just weren’t good. It strikes me as people blaming TR for our crappy receivers. Know who a good qb coach is? Whoever the Saints, Chiefs, and Pats have! Josh McDaniels didn't develop Brady and Joe Lombardi didn't develop Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, WizdomCalling said: I say back up the brinks truck and get Tony Romo. The guy proves Everytime he is calling a game he understands the game on a entirely different level. I know it's a pipe dream but hey it's the internet a guy can dream. ...and I would say you're nuts...CBS currently pays him $4 mil and the competition is hot on his tail...CBS is preparing a massive raise package that will meet or exceed the $6.5 mil Gruden was getting paid.....so you think a QB Coach at OBD would get paid MORE than your GM and HC combined?...seriously?............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Daboll will get his guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Jordan Palmer has a pretty sweet thing going right now. Unless the Pegulas pay him some outrageous money to be a QB coach this story is pure speculation and not likely to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 ..pretty low rent for the twitter announcement to show Culley in KC garb as if his Bflo stint never existed......classy........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..pretty low rent for the twitter announcement to show Culley in KC garb as if his Bflo stint never existed......classy........... Did it really exist, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 They'll hire Kenny Carolina, 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Did it really exist, though? 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Did it really exist, though? ...nope...I just imagined the twitter feed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...nope...I just imagined the twitter feed...... I meant his stint in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Doc said: I meant his stint in Buffalo. ...off the radar I guess in Ravens announce........ Edited January 30, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...off the radar I guess in Ravens announce........ I guess. I suppose Culley missed working with TT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 One question is whether Palmer really wants to be a QB coach in the NFL. Doing what he's doing, he is his own boss and sets his own schedule. Who knows what he's actually earning, but the life of an NFL coach is pretty grueling. For five weeks in the summer you are separated from your family at training cam. Then you have long work weeks during the season with film study and game planning in addition to actually working with the players. Then you're involved with the pre draft process and offseason workouts, OTAs, and minicamp. If you're obsessed with football and your family is on board, fine, but it's a pretty big sacrifice with very little job security otherwise. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Doc said: I guess. I suppose Culley missed working with TT... ...uh oh bro...may have opened an old wound....suggest a kevlar vest and deeper foxhole.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...uh oh bro...may have opened an old wound....suggest a kevlar vest and deeper foxhole.................. No need. I'm battle-hardened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I would think Rob Chudzinski would be the best hire. Carolina connection, close with McDermott, and did some big things with Cam Newton early in his career. I don't think Cam liked him very much, but he has some big years under his tutelage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Jordan Palmer had a pretty impressive pre-season game for the Bills in 2015-16 I believe. Anyway, Josh Allen is still a kid. Give him his security blanket. If that means J Palmer, do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 What leads you to speculate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..pretty low rent for the twitter announcement to show Culley in KC garb as if his Bflo stint never existed......classy........... Low rent? Why would the Ravens brand their new offensive coach as a Bill when they can show him in Chiefs gear? Looks like smart marketing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Best news of the offseason. Culley as QB coach was a major mistake by McDermott and his departure won't be hurtful. A lifetime WR coach with no track record of developing a QB tasked with developing the 7th overall pick was bad from the outset. So yippee!!!! Now fix the OL and the two biggest mistakes they made are being addressed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizdomCalling Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...and I would say you're nuts...CBS currently pays him $4 mil and the competition is hot on his tail...CBS is preparing a massive raise package that will meet or exceed the $6.5 mil Gruden was getting paid.....so you think a QB Coach at OBD would get paid MORE than your GM and HC combined?...seriously?............ 1st of all I'm entitled to my opinion it wasn't hurting or offending anyone, Nuts or not . 2nd It doesn't matter what I think but it's fun to imagine, and quite frankly it isn't my money so I don't care. The point is we need a person who can help Allen know what to do based off of what he is supposed to and what the defense is doing. At least admit it, it would be nice if the person who is tutoring Allen sees the game the way Romo does. The guy knows every play before it happens when he is calling the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 8:17 PM, Aussie Joe said: JA is working out.. Meanwhile Mahomes is Mahoming Mahomes had the huge advantage of having a year on the bench to absolutely imprint his mechanics to deep muscle memory. Allen's being needed to play meant that his mechanics were essentially forgotten while he worked on the much more necessary in the moment needs to work on understanding and memorizing game plans and how to understand and work on countering defenses. With more time in the offseason, hopefully Allen can get those mechanics more deeply downloaded. It's great he's already working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 6 hours ago, TigerJ said: One question is whether Palmer really wants to be a QB coach in the NFL. Doing what he's doing, he is his own boss and sets his own schedule. Who knows what he's actually earning, but the life of an NFL coach is pretty grueling. For five weeks in the summer you are separated from your family at training cam. Then you have long work weeks during the season with film study and game planning in addition to actually working with the players. Then you're involved with the pre draft process and offseason workouts, OTAs, and minicamp. If you're obsessed with football and your family is on board, fine, but it's a pretty big sacrifice with very little job security otherwise. Yeah, this. It's the deeper question. Fans assume everyone wants to coach in the NFL. Palmer is on record as saying he loves to work with young guys. No way to know what he would want to do, assuming the Bills are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Heard Jim wants to talk to Josh ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/26/2019 at 6:51 PM, Dr. Who said: Lot of folks think greatness overcomes impediments or they say, "Well, maybe not as great numbers, but he'd still be terrific." And because you can't disprove (or prove) a counter-factual, it's impossible to refute. I think fortune plays a large role in destiny. No one can anticipate exactly how an individual will react in different circumstances or project a freak injury. I am not convinced Mahomes would have experienced success here, though I lobbied for us to draft him. What we know: Mahomes was given a red-shirt year to learn, surrounded by excellent coaching and offensive personnel. We also know Allen was thought to need a redshirt year, was thrown into the fire with not much surrounding help. I think his performance was clearly improved after returning from injury. There's reason to be hopeful Allen will be a genuine franchise qb. Everything else is guesswork. I agree and would like to add that watching film of Mahomes in college the kid had this Gunslingers gunslinger mindset . In this way Mahomes is a throwback type of QB like Kelly, Marino, Favre & Elway. He has that unmeasured "it" factor. I was begging the Bills to draft him. Hopefully Allen can develop that type of mindset because he has the tools to be a true Gunslinger type QB. The problem is McBeane seems to want to ruin him by using him like a Cam Newton. I hate when they call that QB draw play i cringe when i see it. Im not saying JA shouldnt run. He should be running within the structure of the passing gm ala Young, Elway & Rodgers. I really believe if we keep using JA like Cam we will ruin him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, WizdomCalling said: 1st of all I'm entitled to my opinion it wasn't hurting or offending anyone, Nuts or not . 2nd It doesn't matter what I think but it's fun to imagine, and quite frankly it isn't my money so I don't care. The point is we need a person who can help Allen know what to do based off of what he is supposed to and what the defense is doing. At least admit it, it would be nice if the person who is tutoring Allen sees the game the way Romo does. The guy knows every play before it happens when he is calling the games. ...NEVER meant to insult........my apology........and of course you're entitled to your opinion....that is how this place is supposed to work........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Football coaches are football coaches. You go with the money. He was a QB coach who turned WR coach Culley is an offensive football coach. He knows plenty about the QB position ... it’s not like he was a DB specialist Andy Reid is a “QB guru” who never played QB... was an oline coach by trade and then QB coach for a few seasons ... he knows how to coach offense Every single person around Culley vouches that he’s an amazing coach. Whether QB or WR... he was great for Allen’s development Any thoughts on Palmer and other more realistic candidates who fit with what Daboll is attempting to do with the offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On January 23, 2019 at 7:22 AM, ShadyBillsFan said: beyond the snark Josh does need a coach that can teach him to develop in the areas he may still be lacking in. AVP, AVP, AVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 14 hours ago, WizdomCalling said: I say back up the brinks truck and get Tony Romo. The guy proves Everytime he is calling a game he understands the game on a entirely different level. I know it's a pipe dream but hey it's the internet a guy can dream. As back up QB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 https://www.newyorkupstate.com/expo/sports/g66l-2019/01/8179ee81923326/derek-anderson-6-other-candidates-for-buffalo-bills-qbs-coach-vacancy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: I agree and would like to add that watching film of Mahomes in college the kid had this Gunslingers gunslinger mindset . In this way Mahomes is a throwback type of QB like Kelly, Marino, Favre & Elway. He has that unmeasured "it" factor. I was begging the Bills to draft him. Hopefully Allen can develop that type of mindset because he has the tools to be a true Gunslinger type QB. The problem is McBeane seems to want to ruin him by using him like a Cam Newton. I hate when they call that QB draw play i cringe when i see it. Im not saying JA shouldnt run. He should be running within the structure of the passing gm ala Young, Elway & Rodgers. I really believe if we keep using JA like Cam we will ruin him. I definitely prefer Young and Elway as the model to Cam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I don't think there is much of a chance Palmer becomes QB coach. He has a sustainable thing going where - I assume - he gets a VERY healthy check from each QB after they are drafted and signed. It's in California, on his terms. Why on earth would he become a QB coach for just one team when he could be fired at any time and his former biz is jeopardized? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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