Franco_92 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Ah yes, for White or Wallace. Comparable trade value, those two. If KC wants anything from us, I'd either like Mahomes or Benjamin Edited January 3, 2019 by arcane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 4 hours ago, mannc said: AB is a great player at a position of dire need and he’s shown no sign of slowing down. It worked out pretty well for Dallas this year, and AB is a better player than Cooper. OTH, Brown has some baggage, Pittsburgh’s bargaining position is somewhat compromised, and 9 overall is a very valuable pick. Tough decision...i might do it, esp if they don’t have any WR rated that high. He is a cancer on the team. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Pass on expensive aging diva wrs. Sign Tyrell Williams to a much smaller contract. Draft a wr in the 2nd round. Keep developing Foster, Jones & McKenzie. We're not giving up any young defensive talent for Antonio Brown, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, CuddyDark said: Can they even trade him without cutting several people on their roster? I thought his cap number means they can't trade him? Plus he's the only vet I don't wont. I thought I read it would be a wash, cap hit now versus traded would be the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 It would be so contradictory to their whole methodology. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Antonio-Brown-trade-value-127165123/ #9 & a young player appears to be asking price I will say No Mas!! to Tre, Tremaine or Levi. But Poyer is intriguing - clearly Bills wont trade for AB with Poyer on the roster (Rachel Bush saga), but maybe AB for Poyer + pick can be done. Of course, I love the Poyer Hyde safety duo and would be reluctant to break it up. Also, Poyer is on an amazingly team friendly contract through 2021. But an interesting thought none the less. Can't see Bills getting lined up to do this. Only player expendable in backend would be Wallace IMHO. But AB is the anti-Bill from a locker room / team mentality. This is a deep draft at WR and could see OBD take one at 41st pick of draft. If the secondary is so good and important as author states, why deconstruct it and also pass on getting a premier LT or Edge player in RD 1 of 2019 draft? Especially for a WR who has never won an AFC Championship or Super Bowl while on a much more talented team. he has 4 TDs in 10 playoff games. IMHO AB does not make his teammates better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 A starter and our 9th overall pick for a 30 year old diva drama queen who quits on his team? Oh, and a $17M/year contract? No thanks. Doesn't remotely fit in with what is being built here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 his value isnt a first or even a 2nd. I'd give two 3rds for him max. too old and a expensive contract. cooper>brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that the Rachel Bush - Antonio Brown piece takes him out of the equation in Buffalo. Even if Poyer is a part of the deal I don’t see it happening. That secondary is EXTREMELY close. I’d be shocked if the Bills brought Brown into that locker room. He could potentially tear down what they’ve worked so hard to build. This should end the conversation. Knowing this, then still making the trade, would just destroy everything that has been built. Every mantra they have used would ring hollow. I can't even express how impossibly unlikely the Bills acquiring AB would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Yeah no dice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 No way the Bills trade White or Edmunds as part of any deal for Brown. Poyer or Wallace ? Maybe, but I think AJ Green is a more likely target if CIN is doing a rebuild and willing to listen. Green may not be AB, but he’s a great WR without the drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 If this report is accurate, he comes out of this looking like a truly petty ass: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/03/team-mvp-snub-may-have-sparked-antonio-browns-ire/ . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Again, you are not bringing a player that slept with arguably your best player’s wife into your locker room!! There is no other reasoning that needs to be discussed. Even if the cost was a 7th it can’t be done on our team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 8 hours ago, The_Dude said: Great WR, crap person. I don't want him. He has no accountability. No professionalism. Unbelievably selfish. He's an expensive headache. No thanks. Bingo! One of the NFL's most selfish players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Definitely not a process guy. No way, no how would he be good for a young, developing QB. He's lobbying for a trade to the 49ers, anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: If this report is accurate, he comes out of this looking like a truly petty ass: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/03/team-mvp-snub-may-have-sparked-antonio-browns-ire/ . as good as he is and his own teammates snub him. the article I read had a quote of AB saying he is the franchise. Edited January 3, 2019 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 No way you give up #9 for him. He's too old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dopey said: as good as he is and his own teammates snub him. the article I read had a quote of AB saying he is the franchise. Make no mistake: he's better than Smith-Schuster, and it ain't even really close. Brown is phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Golden Goat said: Furthest thing from a "process" guy. I don't see it happening. ^^^^ This 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Make no mistake: he's better than Smith-Schuster, and it ain't even really close. Brown is phenomenal. No argument here. He's way better. I just feel it's kind of telling that AB was not voted team MVP over Smith-Shuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Dude yes. That's my favorite cartoon, ever. Same. Its one of those 90's shows that would never see airtime now in this PC society. It also still holds up to this day. And I really imagine McDermott saying that just like Mr. Horse. He seems like the type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Definitely not the right “DNA” don’t see it happening. Won’t get the touches he wants more than likely, and will be a diva. Rather make a run at AJ if we go this route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Can’t believe people turning on Brown so quickly. There is clearly more to the story than we are being told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I think I recall that McDermott and Tomlin are good friends? If the Steelers are serious about moving on, I assume Tomlin would be honest about the situation. I’m a little leery about what exactly is the truth here from the media drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 6:53 AM, Magox said: If you did it, it would have to be Poyer because of their issues. I don't think I'd want to trade the #9 overall pick and Poyer for him though plus AB has such an outsized personality I"m also not sure that they'd want to risk him being a potential cancer. From the sounds of things Tomlin wasn't able to control him, but I have a feeling that he would be able to fit into the Bills locker room. He'll be 31 this next season and he is elite, it certainly is tempting. #9 and Poyer for AB?? I would pack Poyer's bags myself. Steal of the century... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: #9 and Poyer for AB?? I would pack Poyer's bags myself. Steal of the century... I dont see Beane giving up #9 for a player with 2-3 good years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: #9 and Poyer for AB?? I would pack Poyer's bags myself. Steal of the century... It’s a fair offer but it’s not happening. Brown isn’t coming into that locker room after the Rachel Bush stuff (regardless of whether or not Poyer is there). Poyer, Hyde and Tre are EXTREMELY close. They aren’t going to bring in a guy who will immediately divide the locker room. AJ Green is a possibility but AB isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s a fair offer but it’s not happening. Brown isn’t coming into that locker room after the Rachel Bush stuff (regardless of whether or not Poyer is there). Poyer, Hyde and Tre are EXTREMELY close. They aren’t going to bring in a guy who will immediately divide the locker room. AJ Green is a possibility but AB isn’t. Poyer is definitely the weak link in that trio. As for the locker room, I think most of the guys would give it bit of time for an adjustment, but I would be they would be happy to be playing with a legit offensive gamechanger. Is it not entirely possible that certain players are getting tired of playing for Tomlin and with Big Ben? AB needs a fresh start, our WR corps is almost "Buffalo Bills good" and Poyer is the most easily replaced guy on D. This would be great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Trade value dropping fast.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) If they can trade him to the NFC they will. My first guess would be the Packers. They have a small window while Aaron Rodgers is still playing and their offense is devoid of talent. Plus a new head coach about to take over who might be looking to make a splash, and high picks to trade. Edited January 5, 2019 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Poyer is definitely the weak link in that trio. As for the locker room, I think most of the guys would give it bit of time for an adjustment, but I would be they would be happy to be playing with a legit offensive gamechanger. Is it not entirely possible that certain players are getting tired of playing for Tomlin and with Big Ben? AB needs a fresh start, our WR corps is almost "Buffalo Bills good" and Poyer is the most easily replaced guy on D. This would be great move. There is no debating that AB is one of the best receivers in the game. On the other hand it is very unlikely that the clapping coach is going to bring in a receiver such as AB or an Odell Baeckham type of personality who are volatile and were disruptive in the locker room? This is a coach who wanted no part of Watkins who is not nearly as explosive or self-centered a personality as AB. McDermott at times tiresomely preaches the sanctity of the locker room and importance of character. He would undercut his credibility to shreds if he brought in a player who already has walked out on his team. This is never going to happen. Just now, HappyDays said: If they can trade him to the NFC. My first guess would be the Packers. They have a small window while Aaron Rodgers is still playing and their offense is devoid of talent. Plus a new head coach about to take over who might be looking to make a splash, and high picks to trade. As Kirby pointed out in a previous post the Steelers are not going to absorb the crushing cap hit that a trade would entail. And because of his cancerous and seditious behavior his trade value is diminished. The Steelers will do everything they can to work out an in-house solution to this fratricide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I say yes especially thinking about the article just posted today. It’s on the main board. If Beane and McDermitt can be convinced by Brown he can toe the line, he’ll go from a QB supposedly he doesn’t like, to an emerging arm, and growing. The Steelers are getting older and Tomlinson is most likely sick of Brown and Bell. Now is the time as we have the draft pics and cap capital to do it, and as the writer points out the timing of his contract up in 2021 coincides with Allen’s rookie contract. Chicago just made a calculated move with Mack and look how that is turning out. Can you imagine Brown, either the best or top 3 WR in the league, with Foster McKenzie and Jones, and using the rest of free agency with fortifying affordable but good two Olineman probably a Center and a Guard as more affordable, and then a solid draft to fill the rest. We also have 6 picks in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, JohnC said: As Kirby pointed out in a previous post the Steelers are not going to absorb the crushing cap hit that a trade would entail. And because of his cancerous and seditious behavior his trade value is diminished. The Steelers will do everything they can to work out an in-house solution to this fratricide. I would have thought the same but it's being reported today that the Steelers are listening to trade offers. They have no reason to put this out there if it's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I would rather draft a great prospect or two and sign a decent free agent I have a sinking feeling he ends up in NE. If I'm the Steelers the only way he leaves is via trade and he only goes to an NFC team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I'll put this in the same weight class as the "bring back Dareus" idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) A third tops- he has no value as everyone knows the Steelers are done with him. Huge cap hit, jerk and getting up there Edited January 5, 2019 by davspo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Poyer is definitely the weak link in that trio. As for the locker room, I think most of the guys would give it bit of time for an adjustment, but I would be they would be happy to be playing with a legit offensive gamechanger. Is it not entirely possible that certain players are getting tired of playing for Tomlin and with Big Ben? AB needs a fresh start, our WR corps is almost "Buffalo Bills good" and Poyer is the most easily replaced guy on D. This would be great move. They aren’t going to take kindly to a guy that slept with one of their best friend’s wife. It just isn’t going to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I dont see Beane giving up #9 for a player with 2-3 good years left. Agreed. If Brown is traded it will either be to a team with a closing Super Bowl window. Somewhere like the Chargers or Saints. Maybe New England , but I'm not sure the Steelers organization could stomach that trade. Or an franchise impressed by shiny things, like the Jets or Redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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