dollars 2 donuts Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Please from you guys that follow the college players more closely than I do. We do need a pass rush specialist at some point, and if ones not available in FA... Edited January 2, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I actually clicked on his scouting report this morning because I think he could very well be in play with our pick. It seems like the offensive talent in this draft doesn’t have a lot in terms of top 10 talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I’d be absolutely shocked if he was there at 9. I think he’s top 5 easily. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I actually clicked on his scouting report this morning because I think he could very well be in play with our pick. It seems like the offensive talent in this draft doesn’t have a lot in terms of top 10 talent. 5 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’d be absolutely shocked if he was there at 9. I think he’s top 5 easily. Right...right, both of you. Man, the thing is now instead of just Bosa and Oliver being "men" there, Allen looks like a potential stud, too. ...if...IF he is there.... ... ... ...do you take him? Frick, I just don't know. I need to know more about him. Edited January 2, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Yes just because it would be very confusing/funny when listening to the game on the radio. Josh Allen with the sack! 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 OLB is definitely a need with Alexander playing maybe one more year. The trio of Milano, Edmunds, and Allen would solidify the Bills LB core as one of the best in the league for years. However, I don't see Allen lasting to 9. He's a top 5 guy, and with all the needs on the offensive side of the ball, I don't anticipate Beane trading up that far and giving up that much capital to get him. Rather sit at 9 or trade down and get an OL or WR. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, dezertbill said: OLB is definitely a need with Alexander playing maybe one more year. The trio of Milano, Edmunds, and Allen would solidify the Bills LB core as one of the best in the league for years. However, I don't see Allen lasting to 9. He's a top 5 guy, and with all the needs on the offensive side of the ball, I don't anticipate Beane trading up that far and giving up that much capital to get him. Rather sit at 9 or trade down and get an OL or WR. ...I know...he'll likely be gone. Man, doesn't it get scary good though just thinking about the possibility? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Right...right, both of you. Man, the thing is now instead of just Bosa and Oliver being "men" there, Allen looks like a potential stud, too. ...if...IF he is there.... ... ... Frick, I just don't know. I need to know more about him. If it were 2018 with all the QB's we'd be in line to get a great DL player with all the talent in this year's draft. But with lack of QB's and teams needing one those guys will get snatched up pretty quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 If he is there at 9 and the top OL is gone I think he would be a solid pick for us. BPA even if it isn´t a position of need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Antonio said: If he is there at 9 and the top OL is gone I think he would be a solid pick for us. BPA even if it isn´t a position of need. Antonio, not gonna lie...great point and likely very true. How do you pass up one of the best OT in this year's draft? Especially this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I love Josh Allen and think he's a great fit as a Sam/DE on passing downs, and younger faster better Lorax. They finally let Tremaine rush the passer last week and he got a nice sack. I think Allen provides that same type of versatility. Unfortunately he probably winds up on the Jets, which sucks. 8 minutes ago, Antonio said: If he is there at 9 and the top OL is gone I think he would be a solid pick for us. BPA even if it isn´t a position of need. Josh Allen is far and away a much better prospect than Jonah Williams. If we had the choice between a right tackle and game changing, elite edge player, and choose the tackle, we lost the draft. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Yes just because it would be very confusing/funny when listening to the game on the radio. Josh Allen with the sack! Better the Bills get him than any other team. Universe ending paradoxes might ensue if Josh Allen were to tackle Josh Allen. * Then again, the Bills do need a Williams. ? Edited January 2, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 no chance hes sitting there at 9. His game against Penn State solidified his top 5 pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I love Josh Allen and think he's a great fit as a Sam/DE on passing downs, and younger faster better Lorax. They finally let Tremaine rush the passer last week and he got a nice sack. I think Allen provides that same type of versatility. Unfortunately he probably winds up on the Jets, which sucks. Josh Allen is far and away a much better prospect than Jonah Williams. If we had the choice between a right tackle and game changing, elite edge player, and choose the tackle, we lost the draft. I would be happy with either pick because I know that we need a lot of help on the offense and if we end up upgradding our O Line and the offense becomes that much better Allen, Shady and the WR will shine, we just need the offense to be Top 15 to be consider contender in my opinion. Know if you tell me he is like K Mack... then I definitly be all over! Edited January 2, 2019 by Antonio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: no chance hes sitting there at 9. His game against Penn State solidified his top 5 pick Had 3 sacks right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Many mocks have him going to the Jests. I fear this off season from what the Jests might do. There in much better position and have made no secret what they are doing. I can easily see McCarthy as HC, Bell at RB, Allen at LB and stud FA WR and WR draft pick. Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Had 3 sacks right? Yea i think so and was just all over the field making plays. Dude's a beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Given the depth of defensive talent and the lack of blue chip offensive talent at the draft, I think we need to take the BPA defensive player #9 and then turn the focus to offense the rest of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I dont follow college ball and am not one to make quick judgment based on YouTube highlights but man, watching that video got me really liking this kid. The speed, motor and never give up on a play attitude is what I see. When he gets jammed up or blocked in one direction he spin moves out of it and goes the other way. Beautiful. Unlike Trent Murphy who gets jammed up and that's pretty much it unless a sack falls in his lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 He's in play to go #1 overall, IMO. No way he slides to 9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: Yea i think so and was just all over the field making plays. Dude's a beast Who are we talking about? Josh Allen, or Josh Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I don't think he'll make it to our pick. To me, he's the closest thing to Mack since Mack was drafted. I think he has that kind of ability. I see him going to the Jets or Raiders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, Antonio said: I would be happy with either pick because I know that we need a lot of help on the offense and if we end up upgradding our O Line and the offense becomes that much better Allen, Shady and the WR will shine, we just need the offense to be Top 15 to be consider contender in my opinion. Know if you tell me he is like K Mack... then I definitly be all over! I don't think he has teh power of Mack, he's got some similarities to Von Miller, but not quite as refined a pass rusher. Allen is longer and leaner, I see him as a more athletic Jason Taylor type of player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Please from you guys that follow the college players more closely than I do. We do need a pass rush specialist at some point, and if ones not available in FA... If he somehow drops to 9, we should sprint to the podium to ***** our second first round Josh Allen in as many years. Edit: wow, i'm shocked that word would be censored as it even took me a sec to remember there was an alternate, vulgar meaning for it (although that usage did provide one of the funniest lines in Heathers) Edited January 2, 2019 by thurst44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 He won’t be there at 9. Zero chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I haven't seen a recent mock where he is available outside top three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 If he drops to 9, sprint to podium. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Josh Allen won't be there at 9. But if there's any other defensive player that they really love at 9, I'm fine with them taking him. It's not as if our defense is the '85 Bears. If you can upgrade the defense and you don't feel there's a comparably talented offensive player available, take the defensive guy. BPA. BPA. BPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I expect him to be gone in the top 3. Very possible he goes #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Despite the defense finishing highly in the rankings this season, anyone who watched the games knows that the D had trouble shutting down the run when opposing teams were smart enough to stay with it (See: 2nd Pats game). Also, the D had a habit of giving up late-game TDs when trying to cling to leads (See the first Miami game and the second Jets game). Zo is getting older, and Kyle is now retired. Bottom line: despite obvious needs on the offensive side of the ball, the Bills could certainly stand to shore up the defense as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I think we do need to take one of these stud front 7 players with our first pick. I mean, this draft is loaded at the top with impact defenders IMO. You have Bosa, Q Williams, Allen, Oliver, Ferrell, Gary, and on and on... Tons of depth at WR to get a good one in round 2- a guy like Ridley, Samuel, Harry, M.Brown, Harmon... Hopefully we can get some O-line help in free agency and later in the draft. I don't want one early in this draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I hope the Bills grab him, and he wears 71. It is the little things in life. amirite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 He's probably the best player in the Draft. We're picking way too high for him unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I’m all for defense at 9 as there isn’t an offensive player that stands out. I’d rather trade back and get that tight end, but eh. They could go DT, OLB, DB and I’d be okay. If they don’t extend Hughes or Shaq, I could see a rotational pass rusher as well. The only thing with this kid is I get nervous about smaller school players at high skill positions. Mack aside, I think they play against inferior talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: I’m all for defense at 9 as there isn’t an offensive player that stands out. I’d rather trade back and get that tight end, but eh. They could go DT, OLB, DB and I’d be okay. If they don’t extend Hughes or Shaq, I could see a rotational pass rusher as well. The only thing with this kid is I get nervous about smaller school players at high skill positions. Mack aside, I think they play against inferior talent He plays in the SEC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, SWATeam said: He plays in the SEC I meant moreso amongst his teammates. I wasnt very clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Beane has stated publicly, that he does not/will not draft for need. BPA. If he's there and we don't have a good trade-down offer, then hell yeah. Take him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said: Despite the defense finishing highly in the rankings this season, anyone who watched the games knows that the D had trouble shutting down the run when opposing teams were smart enough to stay with it (See: 2nd Pats game). Also, the D had a habit of giving up late-game TDs when trying to cling to leads (See the first Miami game and the second Jets game). Zo is getting older, and Kyle is now retired. Bottom line: despite obvious needs on the offensive side of the ball, the Bills could certainly stand to shore up the defense as well. Great. Sign some run-stuffing DTs and LBs in free agency. They are very inexpensive and they're easy to find. Do not use the 9th overall pick on this. We need offensive playmakers and O-linemen. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I love Josh Allen and think he's a great fit as a Sam/DE on passing downs, and younger faster better Lorax. They finally let Tremaine rush the passer last week and he got a nice sack. I think Allen provides that same type of versatility. Unfortunately he probably winds up on the Jets, which sucks. Josh Allen is far and away a much better prospect than Jonah Williams. If we had the choice between a right tackle and game changing, elite edge player, and choose the tackle, we lost the draft. Yeah, he's not gonna be there at 9. He's too good for that to happen given the position he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) I would have to know if he can put his hand in the dirt and rush from end successfully. If he can be dynamic and versatile like a Khalil Mack and play standing up or hand down, then yes. If he lacks that versatility, I would prefer someone like Ferrell or one of the other pure DE's. I agree with others who say it is unlikely he lasts till 9, but it's a bit too early to predict all of that. If he's there, I am fine taking him. This guy is one example of going back to school being worth it. He could have been a late first round pick last year, and now he's looking at a top 5 pick. The three D-linemen on clemson not named Ferrel are examples of going back to school being bad for draft stock. Edited January 2, 2019 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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