Punching Bag Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The Bills will have a lot of cap money but not enough good FAs to spend it on. Which player(s) have contracts worth restructuring to move more of the money into 2019 leaving more money for future needs? As far as I understand the current CBA restricts ability to restructure/lengthen rookie and I believe 2nd year contracts so it will not be any of players Coach McD and Beane drafted. Time to talk to Jerry on extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I'd offer Hughes and extension and also McCoy. In McCoy's case at a reduced incentive based deal for maybe 3 years and that he can easily be cut if he doesn't make certain incentives. If McCoy says no to it, then you release him. While McD and Beans both stated they want McCoy back (At this time of year talk is cheap) they didn't necessarily state they want him back on the current contract either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Jerry Hughes I wonder if they might consider doing something with Shady McCoy that is more cap friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 IF they cut Clay, restructure both Hughes and Shady's contracts for the next two years, I believe they would be in a great position going into FA this offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 They probably won’t need to restructure any deals. They have the highest projected cap space for 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Redoing means giving the player more guaranteed money, making it harder to cut him later. And with $90M in cap room in 2019, they don't need to make any moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Extend Jordan Phillips! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Redoing means giving the player more guaranteed money, making it harder to cut him later. And with $90M in cap room in 2019, they don't need to make any moves. No it doesn't. There are accounting things including paying some costs in 2019 they can do. They can move some spending into 2019 if they choose and then give lower salaries later years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Extend Phillips and Hughes. Do the 5th yr option on Shaq if they still want to see what he has. Otherwise extend him, too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I do hope we do not handcuff ourselves in the future with dumb contracts this year- i hope we move as many payments as possible into 2019 and allow savings into future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Limeaid said: No it doesn't. There are accounting things including paying some costs in 2019 they can do. They can move some spending into 2019 if they choose and then give lower salaries later years. OK. I misunderstood your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: The Bills will have a lot of cap money but not enough good FAs to spend it on. Which player(s) have contracts worth restructuring to move more of the money into 2019 leaving more money for future needs? As far as I understand the current CBA restricts ability to restructure/lengthen rookie and I believe 2nd year contracts so it will not be any of players Coach McD and Beane drafted. Time to talk to Jerry on extension? I believe a large chunk of that will be reserved to retain our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, Doc said: Redoing means giving the player more guaranteed money, making it harder to cut him later. And with $90M in cap room in 2019, they don't need to make any moves. I realize its probably been said a ton.....but when I hear about that 90 million in cap space it still makes me smile. Doggie Poo dead cap sandwich year is OVER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 42 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Extend Jordan Phillips! Yeah but he is a UFA.....money will talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I mean, the last thing we need is more cap space. We are good. We will probably have a tough time spending enough of what we already have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, mattynh said: Yeah but he is a UFA.....money will talk It always does. What the Bills have going for them is cap room, he seems to like it in Buffalo and the chance to face the Dols twice a year. Edited January 2, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: The Bills will have a lot of cap money but not enough good FAs to spend it on. Which player(s) have contracts worth restructuring to move more of the money into 2019 leaving more money for future needs? As far as I understand the current CBA restricts ability to restructure/lengthen rookie and I believe 2nd year contracts so it will not be any of players Coach McD and Beane drafted. Time to talk to Jerry on extension? Antonio Brown once you trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Jordan Phillips, Hughes....Hyde & Poyer after next year.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Heres an idea, go after a superstar free agent like say Clowney, his contract would likely be say, 6 years 100 million with 60 guaranteed.....but structure it so the 60 guaranteed is all up front in 2019. Then for the next 5 years you have a stud that is costing you peanuts. incentivize Hughes to sign an extension by increasing his pay for 2019 but not more money in future years. Use the cap up that way. The idea being you want to spend all of your cap space every year but you dont want to screw yourselves in future years. If you have to cut a player, theres no dead money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: No it doesn't. There are accounting things including paying some costs in 2019 they can do. They can move some spending into 2019 if they choose and then give lower salaries later years. But why make the contract riskier when you could just carry over unused money? the only time it really makes sense is to create space now, not later. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BillyWhiteShows said: They probably won’t need to restructure any deals. They have the highest projected cap space for 2020 And just what is there cap projected to be in 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 16 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I'd offer Hughes and extension and also McCoy. In McCoy's case at a reduced incentive based deal for maybe 3 years and that he can easily be cut if he doesn't make certain incentives. If McCoy says no to it, then you release him. While McD and Beans both stated they want McCoy back (At this time of year talk is cheap) they didn't necessarily state they want him back on the current contract either. Haven't gotten around to this yet, thanks for mentioning it....i dont see Beane extending older players out too far or creating dead money. He does beleive in the draft and keeping your own players. if they cant spend all the cap, wouldnt surprise me if he rolls some over for future needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Do the Bills "do" contract redos as a franchise? The Blue Jays stated they didn't, and the toady media preached this to make the team seem holy, until it was proven they did it all the time in the mid 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 14 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Antonio Brown once you trade for him. Sure bring him in as long as there is a clause in his contract to leave his "it's all about me" attitude in Pittsburg the reason why i say that is because there are people writing about how he is all booty hurt because Smith Shuster was voted MVP on the Steelers . We don't need a guy that isn't happy to see another team mate do well & that be the motivation for him to do better especially after the contract he got can you say Primadonna !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Don't know if they're all worth redoing in 2019, but including contracts with upcoming extensions that I'd like to see us address sooner than later (and in no particular order): Hughes Shady Phillips Poyer Tre White Milano Dawkins Zay As much as we need help along the OL and WR, not to mention the DL need and LB depth - I'd really rather see us use our cap to lock some of these guys down longterm, especially the young talent that will be the foundation of this team moving forward. God forbid Allen turns into a franchise guy and we need to pay him accordingly, would be better to have these contracts in a manageable situation once his rookie contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Plenty of 2019 cap money but 2020 will be much less once the players are signed in 2019. This Shady maybe extend keeping the 2019 money the same but reduced money in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, artmalibu said: Plenty of 2019 cap money but 2020 will be much less once the players are signed in 2019. This Shady maybe extend keeping the 2019 money the same but reduced money in 2020. It's really not too bad, even in 2020. It's entirely plausible that we'll have ~40 players on contract and ~$70M of cap space available in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, T master said: Sure bring him in as long as there is a clause in his contract to leave his "it's all about me" attitude in Pittsburg the reason why i say that is because there are people writing about how he is all booty hurt because Smith Shuster was voted MVP on the Steelers . We don't need a guy that isn't happy to see another team mate do well & that be the motivation for him to do better especially after the contract he got can you say Primadonna !! He can bring any attitude he wants if he continues to be one of the TOP 3 WRs in the NFL. Stop being scared of personalities. Edited January 2, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Why do something that that is not needed: roll the $ into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: It's really not too bad, even in 2020. It's entirely plausible that we'll have ~40 players on contract and ~$70M of cap space available in 2020. If they spend all available cap space in 2019 and the contracts have even spending for 2020 they will have about 50 million in space in 2020. The future is looking bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Trent Murphy and shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swill Merchant Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Can you roll over unused cap space in consecutive seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Everyone already mentioned plus Shaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Swill Merchant said: Can you roll over unused cap space in consecutive seasons? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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