Poll: Draft Greedy Williams in the 1st Round?

[Haplo848]

I've seen a couple mock drafts where people have the Bills selecting Greedy Williams with their 1st.  On the one hand, he is one of the highest rated players, generally assumed to be a top-5 pick like Jalen Ramsey or Denzel Ward, and a defensive backfield of Williams, Taron Johnson, Tre White, Micah Hyde, and Jordan Poyer would be ridiculous, and would be in place for years.  On the other hand, the offense obviously needs work, at just about every position.  Despite this draft having much better defensive players than offensive ones, offensive players are who we need right now.  So, what are your thoughts?

Edited December 13, 2018 by Haplo848

[Boca BIlls]

We do seem to be running low on William's players.

[Haplo848]

1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said:

We do seem to be running low on William's players.

 

You seem to have selected "Other."  Is the last name the reason you'd draft him?  Or should I put up other options?

[Thriftygamer83]

David Edwards would make a good fit in the first round.  Along with bolstering an offensive weapon like Marquis Brown in the second.  The defense spends to much time on the field and the offense needs to be restructured completely.  Then we need a dual running back set to pound the holes.  As for free agency offensive linemen they make a mint; have to draft and build them up.  

[jr1]

WalterFootball has him going to PHI http://walterfootball.com/draft2019.php

[pimp on da' net]

1 hour ago, Thriftygamer83 said:

David Edwards would make a good fit in the first round.  Along with bolstering an offensive weapon like Marquis Brown in the second.  The defense spends to much time on the field and the offense needs to be restructured completely.  Then we need a dual running back set to pound the holes.  As for free agency offensive linemen they make a mint; have to draft and build them up.  

I would prefer we address the OL in FA...the new age college offensive scheme have made it very difficult to judge adaptability to the NFL.

 

FA is a better route to fill the needs on the OL, imo...keep drafting & developing OL with the 3-5th rd picks for depth with the hopes of finding that gem. 

[Aussie Joe]

I’m breaking the cardinal rule of the BPA zealots and he may well be when we pick..

 

But I would be looking elsewhere..

 

Just my opinion..Hate away..

[LeGOATski]

If he's BPA, then yes.

[Juice_32]

If they took him I wouldn't be upset, but one thing this regime seems to be able to do is find defensive talent later in the draft. If there is an under the radar CB who fits their scheme (Taron Johnson), then spend the pick on O-line.

[ComradeKayAdams]

8 hours ago, Haplo848 said:

I've seen a couple mock drafts where people have the Bills selecting Greedy Williams with their 1st.  On the one hand, he is one of the highest rated players, generally assumed to be a top-5 pick like Jalen Ramsey or Denzel Ward, and a defensive backfield of Williams, Taron Johnson, Tre White, Micah Hyde, and Jordan Poyer would be ridiculous, and would be in place for years.  On the other hand, the offense obviously needs work, at just about every position.  Despite this draft having much better defensive players than offensive ones, offensive players are who we need right now.  So, what are your thoughts?

 

If he's a comparable talent to someone like Jalen Ramsey, then you have to take him as a BPA. 

[BBills88]

Lets see how free agency plays out.

[Mickey]

I'm as desperate as anyone to get the OL upgraded but I'd find it very difficult to pass on a player as good as Williams. It doesn't seem to make sense to use our top pick to fortify the secondary, arguably the best unit on the team. Then again, how do you take a 2 star lineman and pass on a 5 star corner? Glad I don't have to make these choices.

[BillsInWilmingtonNC]

I have said it many times, but that is the only position we may be able to lure a decent FA without overpaying due to the fact that we can offer a chance to play on a top defense and play across from Tre with two great safeties.  That spot could be very appealing to a FA.  I believe we should look for a trade down if Greedy is BPA, not a knocking his ability, just don't see it as a position we should spend a 1st rounder on.

[YoloinOhio]

It’s way too early to know if he would be there or if he would be BPA. It’s just too early in general. I’m going with no but it doesn’t really fit into any of those reasons you list. 

[Big Turk]

Anyone name Greedy I'm all for drafting...plus he is another Williams brother to potentially replace Kyle when he retires....

[NewEraBills]

If we are picking at 6 and one of these guys is there I'd definitely pull the trigger

 

1.  Greedy Williams

2.  Josh Allen

3.  Jonah Williams

 

And if I don't draft them at  6 it's because all of them are on the board and I'm trying to fleece the Jags, Giants, Bucs, Redskins for some extra picks to trade up for a QB ?

[CookieG]

1 hour ago, Mickey said:

I'm as desperate as anyone to get the OL upgraded but I'd find it very difficult to pass on a player as good as Williams. It doesn't seem to make sense to use our top pick to fortify the secondary, arguably the best unit on the team. Then again, how do you take a 2 star lineman and pass on a 5 star corner? Glad I don't have to make these choices.

Nah, you get 2 star linemen by saying "we can get them in later rounds".

 

I'd be more for a Greedy Williams if someone could show where all these first round Db's have gotten us in past 20 years (almost).

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

I can’t remember his name, but my brother was talking to me the right tackle coming into the draft is the best at the position.  I’d rather pick up Golden Tate and John Brown in free agency so we have speed and someone who is big and always gets open across the middle! Unlike Benjamin he doesn’t have alligator arms.

 

After we take BPA throughout the draft.  We have the second most cap space in the NFL.  WE spend on two proven WR and a role player on O Line, and then a great RT in 1st for the draft.  Sanu is another option at WR.  They already are proven route runners.  I’m hopeful we pick up more lineman in later rounds and more offensive weapons.  Imagine Allen having a proven line, and lots of weapons like McKenzie and Foster as well as Jones.  I’m sure Shady will have a bounce back year.

[FeelingOnYouboty]

He's an absolute stud and he gives our Defense that attitude we need. People will flip if we take him but I don't know he turns our really good defense to elite.

 

Imagine having a CB core of White, Williams, Wallace and Johnson.

[TigerJ]

Emotionally, I just have to grit my teeth at the thought of drafting a CB, but if Buffalo gets a good start on offensive personnel issues in free agency, Greedy Williams would not be a terrible pick.

[freddyjj]

He is a stud.  And a "cousin" of Tredavious White - who helped get him to commit to LSU.

 

just sayin?

[ComradeKayAdams]

4 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

He's an absolute stud and he gives our Defense that attitude we need. People will flip if we take him but I don't know he turns our really good defense to elite.

 

Imagine having a CB core of White, Williams, Wallace and Johnson.

 

A Tre White doppelganger as the #2 CB absolutely would turn this defense to elite status. Any defense that features two genuine "shut-down" CB's (i.e. performing at an All-Pro level) to go along with a very good pair of safeties, a solid nickel CB, two very good LB's, and even just an average DL is going to be performing at an elite level.

[Pete]

I am all about the tank and trading down.  Greedy is a player a team would trade up for.  And I am alright with trading back and selecting cb,wr,te,c,g,ot,de,lb, or dt.  Trade down, and trade down again.  Stockpile picks this and next year

[Victory Formation]

People don't realize what Greedy brings, this guy will shutdown his man and Tre will do the same. Teams would have to target our number 4th and 5th corner. Go OL in FA and draft guys RDS 2-7 to fill any holes left.

[Boatdrinks]

As we saw vs Jets and others, the D will not be truly elite without an improved pass rush. The offense is broken while the current D is above average. It would seem that an above average offense coupled with the current D will be a winning combination. Beane and McD have to tone down the obsession with defense. 

[Mojo44]

It seems to me that the BPA factor is overstated by many posters. But need can be just as important at times. A team needs to use a sliding scale and l think most do. Let’s say Williams is available and he is the best player available according to the team rankings. However, the bills are pretty well set in the defensive backfield. So, say there is a stud offensive lineman or wide receiver available who they have ranked a little lower. I say you take that player instead of Williams.

[BillsfanAZ]

3 minutes ago, Mojo44 said:

It seems to me that the BPA factor is overstated by many posters. But need can be just as important at times. A team needs to use a sliding scale and l think most do. Let’s say Williams is available and he is the best player available according to the team rankings. However, the bills are pretty well set in the defensive backfield. So, say there is a stud offensive lineman or wide receiver available who they have ranked a little lower. I say you take that player instead of Williams.

Teams develop draft rankings for a reason. They draft by the rankings. If there are a couple players that have very similar rankings then you look at needs. I think the only offensive/defensive position that is off the table in the first round is QB and safety. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

1 hour ago, NewDayBills said:

People don't realize what Greedy brings, this guy will shutdown his man and Tre will do the same. Teams would have to target our number 4th and 5th corner. Go OL in FA and draft guys RDS 2-7 to fill any holes left.

I agree, the NFL is going to more 3 WR sets and is passing the ball more each year. A lot of teams are running a nickel defense as their main defense. Greedy will be a shut down CB in the NFL, plus I think he will be BPA.

[Rico]

Only if he changes his name.

[Mojo44]

2 hours ago, BillsfanAZ said:

Teams develop draft rankings for a reason. They draft by the rankings. If there are a couple players that have very similar rankings then you look at needs. I think the only offensive/defensive position that is off the table in the first round is QB and safety. 

I make it quite clear in my post that the rankings are significant and are for a reason. So I agree with you there. I do disagree that in the scenario that I described in my post that only safety and quarterback or off the board. Let’s see what happens

[Mr. WEO]

What high need would he be filling?

[DuckyBoys]

if he's the bpa it is what it is  Not like we can't use a 2nd shut down corner

[Haplo848]

I'm actually kinda surprised how okay most people would be with Greedy.  I figured more people would be shouting for offensive players, but I kind of like the BPA approach.  Stars are more important than starters.  And locking down the top 2 WRs of an opposing offense, forcing defenses to throw at Hyde, Poyer, Johnson, Milano, or Edmunds?  Not the worst way to play defense.  We just need to make sure the OLine gets upgraded, and fast.