Captain_Quint Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: LOL, he had to see the tape. That's actually an awesome response when you think about it. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I honestly hope to God the AAF or XFL show somethinf because the refs have ruined the league. 20 plus penalties on average kills the game and the inconsistency is a flat out joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: The refs being worse for us than they have been. I know what its like to be on the wrong side of reffing. Waaaay back when i was a wrestler this retard awarded the other kid four penalty points costing me the match and i let the ref have it and after that word got around and those clowns were on me for everything and mystery calls as well. It was a royal pain in the ass wrestling the opponent and the refs too. I wish i had kept my mouth shut as it made it that much harder from there on out. meh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, row_33 said: Good thing he has lawyered up and trying to pretend it didn’t happen Amazing how quickly his tune changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The league has a serious problem with officiating now that betting is legal. Nothing will be done about it under Goodell but officiating is going to become more and more of a story and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are violent incidents and FBI investigations over the next decade. It’s a disgrace - this is a reactionary league refusing to modernize itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I honestly hope to God the AAF or XFL show somethinf because the refs have ruined the league. 20 plus penalties on average kills the game and the inconsistency is a flat out joke. I watched the Sooners send their WR 50 yards out and the QB threw it 40 only so the D had to get PI when the WR stopped and went back to the designed target they did it 8 times against Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I honestly hope to God the AAF or XFL show somethinf because the refs have ruined the league. 20 plus penalties on average kills the game and the inconsistency is a flat out joke. This is the straight truth. You're lucky to get 3 or 4 consecutive plays without a flag. It really is a chore to watch. Edited December 2, 2018 by RaoulDuke79 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRHater69 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Just watched A Football Life on NFL Network about Mike Holmgren. He said that in the Superbowl where he was coaching Seattle against Pittsburgh, he made a comment to one of the officials along the lines of "I hope this game isn't too big for you." He said he regrets making the comment and all you have to do is look at some of the highly questionable calls that went against Seattle. So don't think for a second that these a**ss clowns don't remember what's said and by who. I don't doubt at all that Guns Hoculi said something to Cam Newton a few seasons ago. You can tell by how Cam reacted that something inappropriate was said. But after Newton called Guns Hoculi out on it he never got another roughing the passer call that year. It was sad to see and I don't even like Cam Newton. Edited December 3, 2018 by GRHater69 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: This is bad. Could be a suspension. yeah, maybe even on the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Good for Hughes. I fully support this. If I could have got that close to one of those officials Ida beat some @$$ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, transient said: He apparently called Jerry Hughes a B word during the game. There is a B word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob in STL said: yeah, maybe even on the ref. I really hope something comes of this. Unfortunately, I'm sure it will be a Hughes fine and nothing else. There needs to be accountability on this horrendous officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I really hope something comes of this. Unfortunately, I'm sure it will be a Hughes fine and nothing else. There needs to be accountability on this horrendous officiating. Yup. Bet on another Hughes fine unless someone has a recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: i understand this but the refs will take note of this and make it harder down the road. Can't get much harder than 15 for patting your own player on the head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Can't get much harder than 15 for patting your own player on the head. It can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: yeah, maybe even on the ref. NFL refs are untouchable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: NFL refs are untouchable Yeah don’t touch them in anger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 A day will come where a player or assistant coach etc loses control and physically assaults a ref on the field. It’s going to happen. NFL refs are the single worst thing about sports and these guys jobs are on the line. A big call will go the wrong way and a guy on the edge of control will lose it. Unless Godell wakes up real soon and finds a way to rectify the atrocious officiating, it will happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: A day will come where a player or assistant coach etc loses control and physically assaults a ref on the field. It’s going to happen. NFL refs are the single worst thing about sports and these guys jobs are on the line. A big call will go the wrong way and a guy on the edge of control will lose it. Unless Godell wakes up real soon and finds a way to rectify the atrocious officiating, it will happen. Nah, worst you get is Ernie Whitt attacking an ump by name in his book when both met on the playing field many times after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: There is a B word? Blame the profanity filter. I posted the actual word and that was the “autocorrect”. I ain’t no B word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: A day will come where a player or assistant coach etc loses control and physically assaults a ref on the field. It’s going to happen. NFL refs are the single worst thing about sports and these guys jobs are on the line. A big call will go the wrong way and a guy on the edge of control will lose it. Unless Godell wakes up real soon and finds a way to rectify the atrocious officiating, it will happen. I can’t remember exactly which game but it looked like McCarthy was close to this scenario after one of Clay Matthews’ questionable roughing the passer calls earlier in the year. The official was backpedaling away from McCarthy as there were some Packers’ staff between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: Nah, worst you get is Ernie Whitt attacking an ump by name in his book when both met on the playing field many times after I don’t think so. I think it will be completely reactionary and in the heat of the moment. Maybe a lineman or someone that’s been getting frustrated all game. Then gets a roughing call or something that costs his team a big game and he just will swing on a guy. Maybe a LB on a defenseless wr or something. A guy like Burfict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 In the NFL they cut you on the spot and no more checks its a big toner down of behaviour Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t think so. I think it will be completely reactionary and in the heat of the moment. Maybe a lineman or someone that’s been getting frustrated all game. Then gets a roughing call or something that costs his team a big game and he just will swing on a guy. Maybe a LB on a defenseless wr or something. A guy like Burfict They lost today, it was a good game and you are having murder fantasies this long after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, transient said: Blame the profanity filter. I posted the actual word and that was the “autocorrect”. I ain’t no B word. I saw the video and heard the actual "B" word. Silly but we may end up losing Hughes for a game. Could be the ref said "stop Bitching" and Hughes reacted. No doubt a fine is coming. Unless this is recorded the NFL will side with the refs for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: In the NFL they cut you on the spot and no more checks its a big toner down of behaviour They lost today, it was a good game and you are having murder fantasies this long after? I just see it happening. Not saying it’s right. Just saying the way calls are trending, I see it ending bad at some point. Refs are taking the game out of the players hands to often and there is pressure on these teams to perform and win. I’m not agreeing with it, I just think it’s out of hand and I’m not sure where that gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Hughes is passionate. I like that but this was completely stupid. Nothing good could have come from it. Focus on what you can control Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I miss the replacement refs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Umpire: Roy Ellison https://nflcdns.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/57750/MIA_Gamebook.pdf same official the NFL suspended for one of its game officials in 2013 for “making a profane and derogatory statement” to Washington Redskins offensive tackle Trent Williams during a game at Philadelphia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nfl-umpire-roy-ellison-suspended-for-incident-with-redskins-lineman-trent-williams/2013/11/22/53d365f2-53c5-11e3-9ee6-2580086d8254_story.html?utm_term=.9df1d7c573c6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 54 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: I miss the replacement refs. Not after that Seattle fiasco in the EZ 1 hour ago, mattynh said: Hughes is passionate. I like that but this was completely stupid. Nothing good could have come from it. Focus on what you can control Jerry. Save it up to give hell to the QB next week 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, row_33 said: Not after that Seattle fiasco in the EZ They were always more than fair to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, HurlyBurly51 said: They were always more than fair to us. I will take your word for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Unfortunately Hughes's action will have consequences, but if we are all honest, this is exactly what most fans and many NFL players feel like doing after seeing how bad the refs have been recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: A day will come where a player or assistant coach etc loses control and physically assaults a ref on the field. It’s going to happen. NFL refs are the single worst thing about sports and these guys jobs are on the line. A big call will go the wrong way and a guy on the edge of control will lose it. Unless Godell wakes up real soon and finds a way to rectify the atrocious officiating, it will happen. Officiating can and should get better. But the Bills lead the league in penalties for a reason. They are undisciplined and outmatched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Toledo Bill said: I would like to see Pegula or Mcdiscipline officially complain about the officiating and discuss specific examppes. They can afford the fines. I'd like to see in the referee's locker room nest home game the heat not work for it and no hot water. 5 hours ago, westside said: I seriously doubt Mcballess would say anything besides I'll have to see the tape. The Pegulas? I seriously doubt they care. I seriously doubt they care about your opinion and it is right decision. 4 hours ago, DC Tom said: Hell, happens so frequently to Tom Brady that he's legally changed his middle name. It's practically a term of endearment on the field, like me calling people "idiot" here. They do not call you "idiot" here. They call you "The Idiot" like "The Batman" or "The Flash" which means it is a term of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I thought the officiating was pretty bad too. Inconsistent. But the PI call on Milano was the right call. He interfered before he went for the ball. The reversal on Zay Jones was the right call. The unsportsmanlike on Phillips was the right call even though it was petty. Even the head tackle on Josh may have been the right call. At first I thought it was awful. But he was grabbed by the jersey and thrown down. Only right at the end did the Dolphin have his helmet. After he was already on his way down. He wasn't at all tackled by the helmet. Yes, they could have called a penalty but it looked way worse than it actually was. 2 hours ago, Dadonkadonk said: Officiating can and should get better. But the Bills lead the league in penalties for a reason. They are undisciplined and outmatched. They are ridiculously undisciplined. On all three teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 But but but I thought full time NFL officials would usher in a new heaven of better called games..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 8 hours ago, MPT said: I would completely support the Bills taking 50 penalties in one of these remaining games to make a point. I am so sick of the referees screwing us over game after game, year after year. The league needs to be put on notice that we won't put up with it anymore. Mad as hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Personally, I'm sick of the refs blowing calls Mr. Magoo could see and the league defending them like they are infallible. This crap needs to stop. Refs need to be say down with a league evaluator after every game publicly and shown every game film from every angle, then asked "how is this a foul?" How did you miss this foul?" "Why didn't you call this?" Then start fining them for every blown call and every BS foul they thrown or miss. You will see their quality improve immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: i understand this but the refs will take note of this and make it harder down the road. Wow. . .instead of being impartial judges, they are thin-skinned, vindictive snowflakes that will take it out on teams that don't kiss their *****. No wonder most fans thinks referees are awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The refs inconsistency from game to game is concerning, and maddening. It ruins the game. Holding happens every play in the NFL. It almost shouldn’t even be a penalty anymore. 3 hours ago, row_33 said: But but but I thought full time NFL officials would usher in a new heaven of better called games..... I remember Ravens fans applauding them their first game back after the hold out. It was sickening. Felt like they were cheering for the emperor in Star Wars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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