greenyellowred Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I can't complain. since there aren't a lot of top WR's in this draft. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-nfl-mock-draft-2019-49ers-20181128-story.html 9. Buffalo (4-7) — Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss, Jr. The Bills need to overhaul Josh Allen’s supporting cast on offense. Little has elite size (6-foot-6, 332 pounds) and athleticism. Top needs: WR, OL, CB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I think both Jonah Williams and Greg Little will be gone when we pick. I could easily see us drafting 15-18. Have a feeling we'll win all of our remaining games except New England. I called the losing streak, now I'm calling a winning streak. Allen gets red hot and puts us in a great spot to win some games. Bills finish 8-8. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 If the first and last halves of the Bills schedule were flipped, they would have started out 6-2 or better, and then had to eke out 4-4 the rest of the way. They might have had a chance, actually. Green Bay is falling apart, and if Allen is playing well and is healthy they don't lose to Houston (no Peterman special pick six at the end of the game). So if they get hot and win most of the rest, it won't be that surprising. The current talent level puts them around the middle of the league, so if they finish 7-9 or 8-8 it will be about right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Shoot me in the face if true 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Shoot me in the face if true It’s a trap! Even if he asks for it, I’m pretty sure you can still get in trouble for that! 2 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I think both Jonah Williams and Greg Little will be gone when we pick. I could easily see us drafting 15-18. Have a feeling we'll win all of our remaining games except New England. I called the losing streak, now I'm calling a winning streak. Allen gets red hot and puts us in a great spot to win some games. Bills finish 8-8. Schedules with a lot of teams on the backend that are already in the tank or on the cusp of it........like these first two seasons under McD.........are a great way to finish strong and go into the offseason with optimism. Whatever McD lacks in acumen he certainly has gotten a lot of it back in luck...........and that's not nothing........winning these games helps extend the shelf life of his "earn the right to win" message. Finishing 8-8 or 9-7 would be a big boost to the program in year 3. The first round in this upcoming draft should be pretty solid with high ceiling prospects regardless of where you pick. As always.......they need to address positional needs in FA and via trade..........and then get BPA at a "money position" in the draft or trade an early pick for a stud vet at position of need(like Julio for example)............but don't reach. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I think both Jonah Williams and Greg Little will be gone when we pick. I could easily see us drafting 15-18. Have a feeling we'll win all of our remaining games except New England. I called the losing streak, now I'm calling a winning streak. Allen gets red hot and puts us in a great spot to win some games. Bills finish 8-8. This is quite possible, and if that’s the case we will certainly go WR I believe in that spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This is quite possible, and if that’s the case we will certainly go WR I believe in that spot. Who though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Who though? Hollywood Brown just had a huge game and Beane was there for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, billspro said: Hollywood Brown just had a huge game and Beane was there for it. Still feels a bit of a reach for him at that point to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Who though? Really? Lots of options there, and I suspect several may even work their way higher up the board with combine and workouts. This is a great year for WR, very deep class. There isn’t the “Calvin Johnson” prospect that is a must take Top 5 guy, but there is a lot of talent overall. Not sure why this board always thinks this draft class for WR isn’t good, it’s one the best in a while overall IMO in terms of number of quality prospects. There’s gonna likely be at least 4 or 5 taken in the first round alone. I suspect the first WR off the board will be late in the top 10 or so, but then I think 3 or 4 more at least will go in the next 15 picks and I wouldn’t be surprised to see as many as 7 go in the first. These guys are all prospects with legit first round possibility and several of them have a shot at being first off the board as different ones are listed as the top guy on different boards. Again combine and off season stuff will start sorting them out more. In no particular order: AJ Brown M. Brown N’Keal Harry Harmon JJAW Metcalf Butler Edited November 29, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Still feels a bit of a reach for him at that point to me. Why is it a reach? For example, some mocks have him going top 10 to the 20’s. So that’s right in the range he’s expected to go. Merclaf is another her guy to watch for. I’ve seen a couple mocks that have us taking Metcalf top 10 around the 9th pick...heck I’ve seen Metcalf mocked as high as #2 pick (but I think there is no WR going top 5 with D and QB needy teams at top of draft). Again, seems the mood around here is less than enthused about WR class for some reason, but it’s an excellent year for WRs IMO, and many experts share the same outlook. It’s a deep class, so even if we don’t go WR round 1 there will still be some gems to be found next couple of rounds Edited November 29, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Love Hollywood. Where he will go is unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I'd be fine with an OT in the first. But Allen would be even more excited. And that's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 25 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Really? Lots of options there, and I suspect several may even work their way higher up the board with combine and workouts. This is a great year for WR, very deep class. There isn’t the “Calvin Johnson” prospect that is a must take Top 5 guy, but there is a lot of talent overall. Not sure why this board always thinks this draft class for WR isn’t good, it’s one the best in a while overall IMO in terms of number of quality prospects. There’s gonna likely be at least 4 or 5 taken in the first round alone. I suspect the first WR off the board will be late in the top 10 or so, but then I think 3 or 4 more at least will go in the next 15 picks and I wouldn’t be surprised to see as many as 7 go in the first. These guys are all prospects with legit first round possibility and several of them have a shot at being first off the board as different ones are listed as the top guy on different boards. Again combine and off season stuff will start sorting them out more. In no particular order: AJ Brown M. Brown N’Keal Harry Harmon JJAW Metcalf Butler Hope you're right. The trend these days is for WRs to get pushed up the board higher than people think, 2017 draft being a great example, with 3 going in the top ten, despite predictions that the Bills would have their pick of WRs at 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Well Trey Adams is probably out of the picture - having torn his ACL, the 6’8” 330# LT will probably return to UW for his last year of eligibility. If we don’ have a shot at Jonah Williams, I say go with the best available player. JMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Who though? N'Keal Harry fits in where we'll probably end up drafting, right? And fills probably our biggest need on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 My early guess is we draft oline with first pick, and then trade up for Anthony Johnson. Or a trade down for AJ, then oline with second pick. I like Harry too, but IMO he will be long gone by our pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Nope... WR first and second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 This eddie Brown fella.... Is a chump. 5 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Nope... WR first and second. Anthony Johnson in the second,baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 If that's how they are planning to blow a top 10 pick, someone should convince them to trade it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I don't see the trade up from 32 there? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Utah John said: If the first and last halves of the Bills schedule were flipped, they would have started out 6-2 or better, and then had to eke out 4-4 the rest of the way. They might have had a chance, actually. Green Bay is falling apart, and if Allen is playing well and is healthy they don't lose to Houston (no Peterman special pick six at the end of the game). So if they get hot and win most of the rest, it won't be that surprising. The current talent level puts them around the middle of the league, so if they finish 7-9 or 8-8 it will be about right. I could see this. Having some easy opponents to start the season might have allowed some wins while Josh was earlier in his learning curve. Not guaranteed though. He's definitely growing into the role. I don't think he's there yet however. I'm excited for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 If we don't take a stud OT in the first round, for a change, or don't sign a top free agent OT, we deserve any and all criticism pointed our way. Allen is making a fine impression but needs a lot of help. He's constantly under duress and has already been injured. We have a lot invested in him and now it's time to create something resembling a pocket for him. If we don't, we may be quite unhappy with the price, in a developmental and/or in a physical sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Interior o line is top priority... trade back and get a stud at guard and center. Then start looking for offensive weapons and speed maybe a corner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Interior o line is top priority... trade back and get a stud at guard and center. Then start looking for offensive weapons and speed maybe a corner. Grab that in FA with guys that can play at a high level immediately. Draft young WRs for Allen in the first 2 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, mannc said: Hope you're right. The trend these days is for WRs to get pushed up the board higher than people think, 2017 draft being a great example, with 3 going in the top ten, despite predictions that the Bills would have their pick of WRs at 10. Right now the en vogue thing to say is that the top 10 will be all defense and Hebert. But reality is that there are more than one WR that could gotQtop 10 like you just said. Honestly Hebert may not even be the first QB off the board come draft time either. Things will change a lot as combine and workouts happen. The good news though is that it’s a deep class at WR. People tend to downgrade a class if there isn’t some Andrew Luck or Saquan barkley like prospect where someone is dubbed the next great player at that position as a lock. But this WR draft is deep and many potential first round guys. And even if we go a different direction than WR in the first, there will be some talent at WR still on the board in 2nd for sure and even in later rounds. I still prefer to go WR first and go after the kind of WR that screams #1 target. Then look at OL in the 2nd or maybe double down and take another WR, TE or a DB opposite Tre if we say address OL in FA. Edited November 29, 2018 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 OT, C, WR first 3 picks! (Whatever order makes most sense) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Grab that in FA with guys that can play at a high level immediately. Draft young WRs for Allen in the first 2 rounds. Or Diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 9 hours ago, greenyellowred said: I can't complain. since there aren't a lot of top WR's in this draft. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-nfl-mock-draft-2019-49ers-20181128-story.html 9. Buffalo (4-7) — Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss, Jr. The Bills need to overhaul Josh Allen’s supporting cast on offense. Little has elite size (6-foot-6, 332 pounds) and athleticism. Top needs: WR, OL, CB Haven't started to look yet, but if this guy's a good OT prospect, that would be a very reasonable way to go, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Why is it a reach? For example, some mocks have him going top 10 to the 20’s. So that’s right in the range he’s expected to go. Merclaf is another her guy to watch for. I’ve seen a couple mocks that have us taking Metcalf top 10 around the 9th pick...heck I’ve seen Metcalf mocked as high as #2 pick (but I think there is no WR going top 5 with D and QB needy teams at top of draft). Again, seems the mood around here is less than enthused about WR class for some reason, but it’s an excellent year for WRs IMO, and many experts share the same outlook. It’s a deep class, so even if we don’t go WR round 1 there will still be some gems to be found next couple of rounds I agree it is a deep class. I don't think there are top half of the first round guy there that I have seen. 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: N'Keal Harry fits in where we'll probably end up drafting, right? And fills probably our biggest need on offense. I don't know. If we are drafting top 12 then I am not sure there is a receiver who really belongs that high in this class. Edited November 29, 2018 by GunnerBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 The Wrs in this upcoming draft just not good. None of these guys have the quick twitch or explosiveness u look for in a wr. There either big and slow types that Beane loves or there small and fast like Marquise Brown and he does'nt fit the Beane mold as a Wr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Also in his mock, f*** that guy. 21. Oakland from Dallas (6-5) — Josh Allen, OLB, Kentucky, Sr. Here’s a Josh Allen I can support as a first-rounder. He would have been in the discussion had he left school a year early. Allen is one of five finalists for the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, which goes to college football’s best defensive player. He finished the regular season with 84 tackles, 18.5 tackles for loss and 14 sacks. Top needs: Edge, WR, QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFan1988 said: The Wrs in this upcoming draft just not good. None of these guys have the quick twitch or explosiveness u look for in a wr. There either big and slow types that Beane loves or there small and fast like Marquise Brown and he does'nt fit the Beane mold as a Wr. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-wide-receiver-class-looks-like-the-best-in-a-while/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pete said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-wide-receiver-class-looks-like-the-best-in-a-while/ Yea I don't necessarily agree with Trapasso but I don't totally disagree with him either. My view remains this is a good, deep, group of wide receivers. But there is no standout #1 receiver, top 10 pick type. There is a sweet spot late 1st and early 2nd for them I think. Wouldn't shock me if you had say 7 or 8 receivers come off the board between the 20th pick of round 1 and the 20th pick of round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 @GunnerBill @Alphadawg7 Here's Sports Illustrated look at the WR. Article written a month ago. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/31/2019-nfl-draft-wrs-wide-receivers-wideouts-aj-brown-nkeal-harry-marquise-brown-scouting-reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I'm all for building a big nasty OL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: @GunnerBill @Alphadawg7 Here's Sports Illustrated look at the WR. Article written a month ago. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/31/2019-nfl-draft-wrs-wide-receivers-wideouts-aj-brown-nkeal-harry-marquise-brown-scouting-reports And I certainly agree with that. There is nobody with Amari Cooper like ability in this class. There are some good players who have particular strengths and can come in and contribute in the National Football League - but there isn't anyone who jumps off the page as a top 10, top 15 pick. I haven't looked at Little really in any depth so far so I don't even have an indicative grade on him. But of the 15 guys I have given indicative 1st round grades only one plays on offense - Jonah Williams (and it is worth saying even with Williams I am not as high as some of the draft nicks out there). Edited November 29, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL-Bills Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 DK Metcalf is the best WR in this class IMO. Big, fast, strong, and most importantly... he catches with his hands, not his body. Tracks deep balls at an elite level (which is clearly something we should emphasize with our QB) and can make plays after the catch. If he's available when the Bills pick, assuming his combine stats are at least decent, I think he should be the guy. Just one guys opinion though! Go Bills! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: And I certainly agree with that. There is nobody with Amari Cooper like ability in this class. There are some good players who have particular strengths and can come in and contribute in the National Football League - but there isn't anyone who jumps off the page as a top 10, top 15 pick. I haven't looked at Little really in any depth so far so I don't even have an indicative grade on him. But of the 15 guys I have given indicative 1st round grades only one plays on offense - Jonah Williams (and it is worth saying even with Williams I am not as high as some of the draft nicks out there). I'm with you on all of this so far, though a couple guys from smaller schools can boost their stock a bit in the all-star games. I've got my top WR at #23 on my current board. 2 in the top 32, 6 from 33-64, 5 from 65-96. Day 2 is loaded with value at WR imo. I've got Jonah Williams at 18 currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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