2019 Mock Draft: Bills take OT Greg Little (Mississippi) at 9

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I'm with you on all of this so far, though a couple guys from smaller schools can boost their stock a bit in the all-star games. I've got my top WR at #23 on my current board. 2 in the top 32, 6 from 33-64, 5 from 65-96. Day 2 is loaded with value at WR imo.

 

I've got Jonah Williams at 18 currently.

 

Yea. We are on a similar page by the sounds of it BH - even on Jonah - who to me is a upper to mid 1st rounder, not a top 5 or 6 pick type talent.

Edited November 29, 2018 by GunnerBill

[BillsFan1988]

56 minutes ago, Pete said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-wide-receiver-class-looks-like-the-best-in-a-while/

Thanks for sending me that but iv'e watched these guys and they are mostly if not all #2 or #3 Wrs in the NFL.

[BuffAlone]

14 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Still feels a bit of a reach for him at that point to me. 

It'd be quite a reach for a 5'10" WR?

[TFBillsfan]

Obviously a lot depends on what we do in free agency. Business wise it would seem smart to draft a franchise OT in the first round IF one is there as a quality one will cost much more in FA. We need a address Center, along with WR. I’d like us to add a starter at OLB as well in the draft or FA.

 

Regardless, we must add new starters at OL-RT, WR, C, OLB along w depth at RB, CB and DT.

 

Curious what everyone thinks if we try to resign OG-Miller or let him go?

[GunnerBill]

51 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

Obviously a lot depends on what we do in free agency. Business wise it would seem smart to draft a franchise OT in the first round IF one is there as a quality one will cost much more in FA. We need a address Center, along with WR. I’d like us to add a starter at OLB as well in the draft or FA.

 

Regardless, we must add new starters at OL-RT, WR, C, OLB along w depth at RB, CB and DT.

 

Curious what everyone thinks if we try to resign OG-Miller or let him go?

 

I think we will let Miller walk. Think we might have interest in bringing Mills back at a cheap price as we did last time he was a FA.

[MrEpsYtown]

Do not take a left tackle in the top ten of the draft unless they are elite. Do not take a right tackle in the top ten ever. This guy has way too many question marks and things of that nature. 

 

Take an elite player up there, regardless of position.   

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

@GunnerBill

@Alphadawg7

 

Here's Sports Illustrated look at the WR.  Article written a month ago.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/31/2019-nfl-draft-wrs-wide-receivers-wideouts-aj-brown-nkeal-harry-marquise-brown-scouting-reports

 

 

And there is also articles calling it one of best drafts for WRs.  Thanks for sharing, but for me this article is way over the top opinion based on his own personal far fetched theory.  I don’t see it the same way.  To me, Dallas made the trade for Amari based on desperation to get the passing game going this year, not based on draft outlook of WR position.  Jerry feels they have a team that could win but the lack of a WR was holding the offense back and squandering the defense and Elliot.  So they made a move, Jerry hates losing.  

 

I fully acknowledge there is no obvious Calvin Johnson guy.  Heck there is no Sammy Watkins (not talking his NFL career, talking how highly ranked overall out of all positions as a player he was going into the draft) either.  BUT...it was the less heralded OBJ that’s had the most success in the NFL, a guy people thought would likely go bottom half of the first round (pre-draft) and wasn’t that true #1 guy because he wasn’t big enough.  Even some Bills fans wanted him, but most didn’t think he was a good fit because of his size, and just about everyone felt strongly that Sammy was the best WR prospect that year going into the draft.

 

There is this habit of where media and fans label a Draft a bad one for a position if there isn’t that “Andrew Luck”  hyped up prospect at said position.  But looking around the NFL there are tons of stud WRs that were not slated to go top 15 or even be first rounders, guys who are true #1 WRs today.  What’s even more puzzling about it, if there was a WR that was so highly regarded like say Saquan was for a RB last year, we wouldn’t have a shot at him anyway because we aren’t picking top 5 or likely even top 10.

 

Even in the most recent worst draft year I can remember for WRs, 2008 where none went first round, the 3rd WR off board in the 2nd round was Jordy Nelson who went on to have a stellar career.  Aaron Rogers, as great as he is, was always better with Jordy on the field.  

 

Point is, this lack of obvious top 10 pick means nothing, it’s loaded with talented WRs, many of which have #1 WR potential.

 

Look around the league, look at some of the best the last decade, some of the best in history and you see guys that were not theses “top half of the first” prospects that went bottom half of first or in later rounds.  I’m pretty sure everyone here would prefer to have JuJu right now for example. 

 

So for me, this is a very deep class and we are going to get a talented kid somewhere in this draft.  Most intriguing is Metcalf.  I see some still mocking him as high as #2 overall (no chance that happens IMO) and several others late top 10.  If he has a strong combine after the neck injury, he will be that top half prospect, likely even the top 10 guy people say is lacking.  Seen 3 mocks having us take him between 9 and 12th, so I’d be stoked if that happens.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Point is, this lack of obvious top 10 pick means nothing, it’s loaded with talented WRs, many of which have #1 WR potential.

 

Look around the league, look at some of the best the last decade, some of the best in history and you see guys that were not theses “top half of the first” prospects that went bottom half of first or in later rounds.  I’m pretty sure everyone here would prefer to have JuJu right now for example. 

 

 

 

Indeed. But JuJu wasn't coming out, and still isn't in fact, a complete #1 receiver. He has a lot of qualities but he isn't a true #1 and isn't asked to be a #1 because he plays opposite either the best or second best receiver in the league (I have AB #1 but I can take an argument for Julio). That is why he was graded in the 2nd round and went in the 2nd round.

 

This is a deep draft for wide receivers but there isn't, in my mind based on what I have seen, that top end quality. If the Bills end up top 12 in the draft and are determined to take a wide receiver in the 1st they should find a trade partner and move back - even if it only nets them an extra mid round pick - and then take one later in the 1st. That doesn't mean there won't be good NFL receivers in this class - I am sure there will - but you have to consider value and top 12 just feels a bit rich for these guys. If the Bills are staying at 12 and picking at 12 I would expect them to take a pass rusher because that is the best mesh of need, positional value and BPA.

 

Of course it is still a long way out from the draft and there are a lot of players (including the one in the title of this thread) who I haven't really focussed on at all yet.

[billsredneck1]

2 hours ago, R Y G A R said:

I'm all for building a big nasty OL.

man if we get great pass protection and big time speed, this passing game will be awesome to watch.

[Alphadawg7]

22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Indeed. But JuJu wasn't coming out, and still isn't in fact, a complete #1 receiver. He has a lot of qualities but he isn't a true #1 and isn't asked to be a #1 because he plays opposite either the best or second best receiver in the league (I have AB #1 but I can take an argument for Julio). That is why he was graded in the 2nd round and went in the 2nd round.

 

This is a deep draft for wide receivers but there isn't, in my mind based on what I have seen, that top end quality. If the Bills end up top 12 in the draft and are determined to take a wide receiver in the 1st they should find a trade partner and move back - even if it only nets them an extra mid round pick - and then take one later in the 1st. That doesn't mean there won't be good NFL receivers in this class - I am sure there will - but you have to consider value and top 12 just feels a bit rich for these guys. If the Bills are staying at 12 and picking at 12 I would expect them to take a pass rusher because that is the best mesh of need, positional value and BPA.

 

Of course it is still a long way out from the draft and there are a lot of players (including the one in the title of this thread) who I haven't really focussed on at all yet.

 

I get it, and I’ve floated the trade down as a preferred option too, especially with the depth of WR later in the first.  However, if Metcalf is there at 12, he’s a top 10 guy forgotten about right now because of the neck injury.  But I fully expect him to show up and have a strong offseason and cement his place as the top guy.  I’d take him easily in that 9-12 range (where I expect will be the highest range we will draft and quite possible we may pick even later than that).  

 

But I’m also not worried if we don’t go WR in the first, lots of guys this year and we can grab one in 2nd or even use some of the extra picks we grabbed to move up into bottom half first again or top of the second and snag a guy they love that’s maybe slid a little.

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea. We are on a similar page by the sounds of it BH - even on Jonah - who to me is a upper to mid 1st rounder, not a top 5 or 6 pick type talent.

That is good news for us......because I think we are about to start winning games and hurting our draft position

[BillsInWilmingtonNC]

Part of me will be disappointed if we go OL in the 1st round just because its not an exciting position, but I also think it might be the right thing to do.  For years, the Colts didn't build around Andrew Luck, and he ended up taking so many crazy hits and getting seriously injured.  We need to have OL as priority #1, and WR/RB #2, and followed by DL at #3 with Kyle soon to be gone

[ctk232]

19 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

I think both Jonah Williams and Greg Little will be gone when we pick. I could easily see us drafting 15-18. Have a feeling we'll win all of our remaining games except New England. I called the losing streak, now I'm calling a winning streak. Allen gets red hot and puts us in a great spot to win some games. Bills finish 8-8.

If we play ourselves into the middle picks of the first - I'd rather we just spend the pick on the top WR available (Brown, Harry, etc.) and hope we addressed/address Center and RG or RT in FA. I'd entertain a trade down scenario but likely won't get much for a mid-round pick versus a top 5 pick. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

19 hours ago, greenyellowred said:

I can't complain. since there aren't a lot of top WR's in this draft.

 

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sd-sp-nfl-mock-draft-2019-49ers-20181128-story.html

 

9. Buffalo (4-7) — Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss, Jr.

The Bills need to overhaul Josh Allen’s supporting cast on offense. Little has elite size (6-foot-6, 332 pounds) and athleticism. Top needs: WR, OL, CB

I hate to say it but if everyone is talking BPA, if CB Greedy Williams is on the board at 9, he is easily the BPA in this scenario.

[Victory Formation]

6 minutes ago, ctk232 said:

If we play ourselves into the middle picks of the first - I'd rather we just spend the pick on the top WR available (Brown, Harry, etc.) and hope we addressed/address Center and RG or RT in FA. I'd entertain a trade down scenario but likely won't get much for a mid-round pick versus a top 5 pick. 

I don't blame you for liking Marquise Brown. Chance to be an impact #1. However, if the consensus is that he's a late 2nd I would not take him in the 1st! Take the best OL and score your WR in the 2nd round. There's a bunch of guys rated higher but I do like him the best. 

[PIZ]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

@GunnerBill

@Alphadawg7

 

Here's Sports Illustrated look at the WR.  Article written a month ago.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/10/31/2019-nfl-draft-wrs-wide-receivers-wideouts-aj-brown-nkeal-harry-marquise-brown-scouting-reports

 

 

 

"Arizona State junior N’Keal Harry could end up being the first receiver off the board this spring. At 6' 4", he’s a big target who has been held under 60 receiving yards in a game only once this season. In Saturday’s win over USC, Harry made an acrobatic one-handed catch while falling backwards—he was almost completely horizontal when he stretched his arm back behind him to pluck the ball. That play showed off one of his strengths—the ability to consistently make difficult, contested catches downfield".

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, PIZ said:

 

 

"Arizona State junior N’Keal Harry could end up being the first receiver off the board this spring. At 6' 4", he’s a big target who has been held under 60 receiving yards in a game only once this season. In Saturday’s win over USC, Harry made an acrobatic one-handed catch while falling backwards—he was almost completely horizontal when he stretched his arm back behind him to pluck the ball. That play showed off one of his strengths—the ability to consistently make difficult, contested catches downfield".

 

 

 

That's why I want him...deep threat and large catch radius.  At 6'4, just throw it up there and let him get it.  

[ctk232]

25 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

I don't blame you for liking Marquise Brown. Chance to be an impact #1. However, if the consensus is that he's a late 2nd I would not take him in the 1st! Take the best OL and score your WR in the 2nd round. There's a bunch of guys rated higher but I do like him the best. 

I don't disagree but my one thought is if both Williams and Little are off the board by the time we pick, I haven't seen many other OT's in this class likely worth the value at that pick no matter how great the need for us is there. Unless we go BPA which will likely be defensive given the class, or trade down, I'm not sure what other value pick might be there at 15-18 that equates need?

[Victory Formation]

8 minutes ago, ctk232 said:

I don't disagree but my one thought is if both Williams and Little are off the board by the time we pick, I haven't seen many other OT's in this class likely worth the value at that pick no matter how great the need for us is there. Unless we go BPA which will likely be defensive given the class, or trade down, I'm not sure what other value pick might be there at 15-18 that equates need?

Tyler Biadasz. Need an upgrade to the center of that OL. Biadasz is #24 on many big boards I've seen, if we're picking #18 that's a good time to draft him. 

[blacklabel]

I actually don't think this front office will be too keen on spending high round picks on OL. Beane said it himself during a pre-season game, the learning curve for even more experienced OL prospects is huge these days because these guys all play in schemes where they rarely ever line up with their hand in the dirt. They have to learn a whole other facet of their position once they reach the NFL and it takes quite a while to coach that. I can see them going OL in rounds two or three but I don't think they'll spend their first round pick on OL. If they end up with a top ten pick, I'd bet money that they'll be taking calls all day from any teams looking to come up. The offensive prospects this year aren't the greatest so the value on those players is gonna be in rounds two and three. So I can see Beane trying to stockpile a handful of twos, threes and even some fours if the offer is there. 

 

Ideally, I think they'd like to spend some of that cash on a couple of guys with experience who can step in and produce right away. I know the FA crop for OL also isn't great but I think they'd rather find a guy or two that way rather than having to wait it out and develop a guy. They're all in on this youth movement so I'd expect their first round pick to be a guy they feel can start right away or isn't that far away from being a day one starter.

 

Don't be surprised at all if a defensive player is their first pick. If they're sticking to BPA, it's likely gonna be a defensive player that'll be BPA when it's their turn in round one.

[Amaru523]

This team definitely needs top notch O-linemen.  What good is having great WR weapons if Allen won't have enough time to get them the ball. A great o-line can make even the worst offense look good.

[NewEraBills]

5 hours ago, Dat said:

Also in his mock, f*** that guy.

 

21. Oakland from Dallas (6-5) — Josh Allen, OLB, Kentucky, Sr.

Here’s a Josh Allen I can support as a first-rounder. He would have been in the discussion had he left school a year early. Allen is one of five finalists for the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, which goes to college football’s best defensive player. He finished the regular season with 84 tackles, 18.5 tackles for loss and 14 sacks. Top needs: Edge, WR, QB

I'd take him with our pick and take Kansas State Dalton Risner at RT in the 2nd even if I have to move up a little to grab him.  To me, the 1st 3 rounds of the draft is about getting the best value you can get preferably at positions of need.  I'd easily take Allen in the teens as LORAX will be 36 years old.

 

Then in round 3 I'd be looking for interior OL/WR/CB but if someone else is there as a surprise value wise, you have to take him.

[ctk232]

25 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

Tyler Biadasz. Need an upgrade to the center of that OL. Biadasz is #24 on many big boards I've seen, if we're picking #18 that's a good time to draft him. 

Gotta look into him - though I'd much rather fill Center with an FA like Paradis who knows the league and can anchor the line from Day 1. Any rookie center will need time to develop - OL development is always a bit of a outlier in terms of league development schedules/progressions.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

20 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

I actually don't think this front office will be too keen on spending high round picks on OL. Beane said it himself during a pre-season game, the learning curve for even more experienced OL prospects is huge these days because these guys all play in schemes where they rarely ever line up with their hand in the dirt. They have to learn a whole other facet of their position once they reach the NFL and it takes quite a while to coach that. I can see them going OL in rounds two or three but I don't think they'll spend their first round pick on OL. If they end up with a top ten pick, I'd bet money that they'll be taking calls all day from any teams looking to come up. The offensive prospects this year aren't the greatest so the value on those players is gonna be in rounds two and three. So I can see Beane trying to stockpile a handful of twos, threes and even some fours if the offer is there. 

 

Ideally, I think they'd like to spend some of that cash on a couple of guys with experience who can step in and produce right away. I know the FA crop for OL also isn't great but I think they'd rather find a guy or two that way rather than having to wait it out and develop a guy. They're all in on this youth movement so I'd expect their first round pick to be a guy they feel can start right away or isn't that far away from being a day one starter.

 

Don't be surprised at all if a defensive player is their first pick. If they're sticking to BPA, it's likely gonna be a defensive player that'll be BPA when it's their turn in round one.

 

This makes sense.  The only problem is what offensive player doesn't need time to develop?  RB?  WR is are only other offensive need, and that position takes just as long as any other in the NFL.  

 

I think they know they need talent on the offensive side.  Whether its WR or OL, I suspect thats where they go when they draft.  Unfortunately, overwhelming odds are that those guys wont contribute immediately. 

[blacklabel]

14 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

This makes sense.  The only problem is what offensive player doesn't need time to develop?  RB?  WR is are only other offensive need, and that position takes just as long as any other in the NFL.  

 

I think they know they need talent on the offensive side.  Whether its WR or OL, I suspect thats where they go when they draft.  Unfortunately, overwhelming odds are that those guys wont contribute immediately. 

 

Yeah, they may not contribute immediately but they'll at least be playing right off the bat and getting experience. I mean, there are some skill position guys that are coming up that could surprise, N'Keal Harry is a rising name and DK Metcalf from Ole Miss just declared and his skill set might actually propel him to be one of the first, if not the first, receiver taken. There are also a handful of strong tight ends in this group and with Daboll being a former TE coach and having worked with Gronk, he may pound the table to bring in a super athletic TE. Noah Fant of Iowa is seen as the top TE right now.

 

RB is a down group this year. There's no Elliots or Gurleys in this class, probably not even a late first rounder. I gotta think they grab a guy to develop this year. Maybe in round 3 or 4, because I can't see them rolling into 2019 with just Shady and Ivory just because both guys hit age 31 in 2019. And they don't seem to be as thrilled with Marcus Murphy as they used to be. 

 

So... yeah, in a year where offensive skill positions are a B+ group at best, here's our Bills with needs at every offensive skill position besides QB, lol. But, I like the way this FO has done their jobs so far and expect this off-season to be pretty exciting.

[Mark Vader]

16 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Interior o line is top priority... trade back and get a stud at guard and center. Then start looking for offensive weapons and speed maybe a corner.

I agree with you.

 

I think the Bills need more help at Guard & Center(unless the Bills believe in Bodine) than they do at Tackle. We have Dion Dawkins and drafting a player in the first round to be a Right Tackle would not be a good move.

 

Wide Receiver/Tight End/ or BPA in the first round. If that BPA is a defensive player.....so be it.

[mannc]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Indeed. But JuJu wasn't coming out, and still isn't in fact, a complete #1 receiver. He has a lot of qualities but he isn't a true #1 and isn't asked to be a #1 because he plays opposite either the best or second best receiver in the league (I have AB #1 but I can take an argument for Julio). That is why he was graded in the 2nd round and went in the 2nd round.

 

JuJu on pace for over 1500 yards receiving this year—not bad for a no. 2 receiver.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

16 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

 

Yeah, they may not contribute immediately but they'll at least be playing right off the bat and getting experience. I mean, there are some skill position guys that are coming up that could surprise, N'Keal Harry is a rising name and DK Metcalf from Ole Miss just declared and his skill set might actually propel him to be one of the first, if not the first, receiver taken. There are also a handful of strong tight ends in this group and with Daboll being a former TE coach and having worked with Gronk, he may pound the table to bring in a super athletic TE. Noah Fant of Iowa is seen as the top TE right now.

 

RB is a down group this year. There's no Elliots or Gurleys in this class, probably not even a late first rounder. I gotta think they grab a guy to develop this year. Maybe in round 3 or 4, because I can't see them rolling into 2019 with just Shady and Ivory just because both guys hit age 31 in 2019. And they don't seem to be as thrilled with Marcus Murphy as they used to be. 

 

So... yeah, in a year where offensive skill positions are a B+ group at best, here's our Bills with needs at every offensive skill position besides QB, lol. But, I like the way this FO has done their jobs so far and expect this off-season to be pretty exciting.

 

I actually don't think we need a WR that badly.  Talent is great, but the truth is they will only do as well as Allen does.  There are exceptions, drops, things like that.  But the thing that will tangibly help him the most play in and play are solid offensive lineman.  I also HATE drafting TEs high.  I prefer to play the lottery in that regard.  

[FeelingOnYouboty]

22 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

I think both Jonah Williams and Greg Little will be gone when we pick. I could easily see us drafting 15-18. Have a feeling we'll win all of our remaining games except New England. I called the losing streak, now I'm calling a winning streak. Allen gets red hot and puts us in a great spot to win some games. Bills finish 8-8.

 

This would make the long off season somehow worth it

[blacklabel]

2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

I actually don't think we need a WR that badly.  Talent is great, but the truth is they will only do as well as Allen does.  There are exceptions, drops, things like that.  But the thing that will tangibly help him the most play in and play are solid offensive lineman.  I also HATE drafting TEs high.  I prefer to play the lottery in that regard.  

 

I'm pretty much down with whatever the organization wants to do at this point. I'm all in on Allen. There's just something about the confidence and ease with which he approaches the position. If he can put it all together he can be really good. It's encouraging to see what he's done so far but I think once they get him some more weapons we'll maybe see him turn a major corner. Kid has never played with stars. Surrounded by one and two-star recruits at Wyoming and so far he's been surrounded by a solid running back, a former first round receiver who doesn't know how to reach his potential, a second round receiver who is working his tail off but is still struggling to separate/be seen on the field, and then a handful of late round and undrafted guys as well as an OL that had too much tinkering done to it during the summer. They definitely have some work to do on offense, no doubt.

 

I don't necessarily think they need a superstar pass-catcher, either. I actually think they're going to end up with a group of guys who will all have one or two specific skills they excel at while being average at the other things a WR does. Like, Foster and McKenzie will be the speed guys that'll take the top off a defense but neither one will likely ever run tough inside routes against man coverage because they get knocked off the line too easily. Zay will be the possession guy.. everyone seems to think he can be some slot superstar but I read recently that a lot of his best plays have come when he's lined up outside so maybe they wanna do that more with him. And hopefully they find another guy that has the size like KB but  has the desire to go with it. I think they'll want a well-rounded group to give Allen a variety of options and give Daboll a variety of ways to scheme and plan. Daboll comes from NE where they never had a big time WR (aside from Moss). It's always been a rotating cast of whoever they have at receiver, Gronk and their TE2 and their backs. Wouldn't surprise me to see a similar set up here.

Edited November 29, 2018 by blacklabel

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, mannc said:

JuJu on pace for over 1500 yards receiving this year—not bad for a no. 2 receiver.

 

It is. But he is a #2. He sees all single coverage because the best in the game is opposite him.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

So 2019 FA's on our Oline include Mills, Miller, Sirles and Groy; it seems like it's the right hand side of the OL's turn to get blown up. There's still Ducasse, so he could take Groy's position but doubt he would start at RG for Miller since Miller is still playing with Vlad on the bench. We would still need a backup center in that case which would fit nicely for one of our later round picks and maybe another low end FA in case the rook can't handle the backup duties. RT will be interesting, I think they should spend on a decent FA there but it could be a high draft pick too. It doesn't seem like Sirles has done enough to be counted on as a starter at RT next year, but maybe he can be a swing tackle.

 

KB and Deonte Thompson are the only UFA WR's, so maybe this waits until the 2nd round? Seems to meet the draft talent available too, although I think the OL and WR's will be getting overdrafted due to the young qb's and how offense is more of a need than defense.

 

Defensively KW, Lorax and Jordan Phillips are FA's, maybe they are brought back but with our rushing defense I think the DL talent available meets need in the first round and we get the best DT available to hopefully shore the run D up or a DE who can play the run and get more of a pass rush.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/buffalo-bills/

[LABILLBACKER]

On 11/28/2018 at 2:09 PM, Utah John said:

If the first and last halves of the Bills schedule were flipped, they would have started out 6-2 or better, and then had to eke out 4-4 the rest of the way.  They might have had a chance, actually.  Green Bay is falling apart, and if Allen is playing well and is healthy they don't lose to Houston (no Peterman special pick six at the end of the game).  

 

So if they get hot and win most of the rest, it won't be that surprising.  The current talent level puts them around the middle of the league, so if they finish 7-9 or 8-8 it will be about right.

As usual the NFL does us no favors. 2 years in a row we play Miami at the end of the season. They need to spread out these division games better. 

[Capco]

If the kid becomes a bookend tackle for years, he's worth the 9th pick.  

 

People need to get over their obsession with skill position players and realize that the flashiest picks aren't always the best.

 

I think if the Bills can put together a top 10 offensive line and pair it with this defense, they will be a consistent 10-6 team.  

[BillsMafia13]

On 11/28/2018 at 8:01 PM, The Senator said:

 

Well Trey Adams is probably out of the picture - having torn his ACL,  the 6’8”  330# LT will probably return to UW for his last year of eligibility.

 

If we don’ have a shot at Jonah Williams, I say go with the best available player.

 

JMO.

They dont have Williams going until a couple picks in the second round. From what i've heard hes one of the surest things in the draft so im real confused. I feel like theres 5 wrs that are all jockeying for top spot, give me the surest tackle on the board asap.  Watch a great oline make every position on offense better

Edited November 30, 2018 by BillsMafia13

[Luka]

23 hours ago, PIZ said:

 

 

"Arizona State junior N’Keal Harry could end up being the first receiver off the board this spring. At 6' 4", he’s a big target who has been held under 60 receiving yards in a game only once this season. In Saturday’s win over USC, Harry made an acrobatic one-handed catch while falling backwards—he was almost completely horizontal when he stretched his arm back behind him to pluck the ball. That play showed off one of his strengths—the ability to consistently make difficult, contested catches downfield".

 

 

 

I would go Harry in the first and the tight end from Mizz in the second. Worry about the o line in free agency and later in the draft.

 

[billsredneck1]

23 hours ago, Amaru523 said:

This team definitely needs top notch O-linemen.  What good is having great WR weapons if Allen won't have enough time to get them the ball. A great o-line can make even the worst offense look good.

agreed. if they buy him a little extra time then those speed guys can get deep. 

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Luka said:

 

I would go Harry in the first and the tight end from Mizz in the second. Worry about the o line in free agency and later in the draft.

 

Big uglies a huge need on this team

[Luka]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Big uglies a huge need on this team

 

You want your shot at the best skill players. Doesn't matter how long Allen has in the pocket if no one is getting open. Left tackle typically goes high in the draft but that's a spot that seems to be locked up with Dawkins. So do you hope Dawkins can translate to the right side? I like the free agent class of offensive linemen more than I like the receiver class. That's going to be another factor but as it stands, I want young weapons for Allen.

[John from Riverside]

9 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

You want your shot at the best skill players. Doesn't matter how long Allen has in the pocket if no one is getting open. Left tackle typically goes high in the draft but that's a spot that seems to be locked up with Dawkins. So do you hope Dawkins can translate to the right side? I like the free agent class of offensive linemen more than I like the receiver class. That's going to be another factor but as it stands, I want young weapons for Allen.

Dawkins best NFL position is LG to  me.