John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 My guess is Shady wants to stay. If he wanted out Im sure they would oblige. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Absolutely . Hes important and safety valve for a young developing QB. Trading him for a mid to late round pick doesn't help Allen and that's what this rebuild should be about. Building and surrounding Allen with talent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible. I mean..... if they get some issues fixed up front he and ivory could be formidable next year. and them splitting touches this year only keeps them more ready for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 I know we could use another pass rusher....I know we need WR help But more and more I am leaning towards taking the best LT......either in the first or second round......move Dawkins to LG.....start the rook at LT......find a free agent OG and OC....spend money there Just keep our RB's.....improve what is in front of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Ryan Grigson ain’t got a thing on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible. We heard this weeks ago, so it is no surprise that he's still a Buffalo Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Maybe they didn’t want to give him up for a 5th... Edited October 30, 2018 by Aussie Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 What I'd love to see moving forward is more two back sets with Ivory and Shady. I would use Ivory for runs up the middle, and work some motion or screen plays to Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Maybe Beane and McD don't want Shady to hit 12k career rushing yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Keeping him is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible. McCoy needs to be moved permanently to the slot for the rest of his Bills career. Run Murphy and Ivory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible. The truth is that they waited a year too long to get rid of him. I'm fine with it as I've always been a Shady fan. But Beane should have moved him last season if he wanted to get a 3rd round pick for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think keeping Shady for next year will be a good move, there is already so many holes on the offense that needs to be fixed that adding a starting RB to the long list would be a lot to get done in one offseason. This offseason hopefully they fix the OL and get some WRs who can contribute on a consistent basis should help Shady have another productive year and also being the safety blanket for Allen. I don't see them trying to draft a RB until 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, Chris66 said: My guess is Shady wants to stay. If he wanted out Im sure they would oblige. I really do not understand why he'd want to stay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Because he has more team loyalty the. You do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Because he has more team loyalty the. You do? Laughable. Chastising Bills fans for their lack of loyalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I know we could use another pass rusher....I know we need WR help But more and more I am leaning towards taking the best LT......either in the first or second round......move Dawkins to LG.....start the rook at LT......find a free agent OG and OC....spend money there Just keep our RB's.....improve what is in front of them I hear that. Can' t fix it all but you can never go wrong building a dominant OLine. Also, could still find WR or TE with picks 2 and 3 and free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 He’s a team captain. I think it matters to him. I sense he’s a loyal teammate. I believe if they spend right next year he can get into the canton discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I know we could use another pass rusher....I know we need WR help But more and more I am leaning towards taking the best LT......either in the first or second round......move Dawkins to LG.....start the rook at LT......find a free agent OG and OC....spend money there Just keep our RB's.....improve what is in front of them i like this plan (but i am not crazy about the OT in the first round, i want someone to catch the damn ball and run like hell with it). throw some cash at the line and get a few savvy vets in there that can steady the ship, add some young talent that can be mentored by the vets, and use the top of the draft for an influx of young, talented, offensive skill position players to catch balls from our young qb. Edited October 30, 2018 by swnybillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I know we could use another pass rusher....I know we need WR help But more and more I am leaning towards taking the best LT......either in the first or second round......move Dawkins to LG.....start the rook at LT......find a free agent OG and OC....spend money there Just keep our RB's.....improve what is in front of them Buffalo had cap spacd to target players..based on who they sign will affect who they draft. If buffalo picks top 5 id trade down and get additional picks to use on players they need. One player to target in 2nd or 3rd is a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The Bills are not in any position to pass on elite talent to trade down for more picks. They are trending towards a Top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: The Bills are not in any position to pass on elite talent to trade down for more picks. They are trending towards a Top 5 pick. And if that ends up being the case, they should seriously consider trading down. The Bills are going to need all the draft picks they can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Mark Vader said: And if that ends up being the case, they should seriously consider trading down. The Bills are going to need all the draft picks they can get. And we’ll play against that elite talent we pass on for the rest of our time in Buffalo like Watson and Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yup. The Bills are the exact kinda team that wants to pay a RB over 30, over $9 mill next year. You’re correct. The Bills are that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Maybe they didn’t want to go be him up for a 5th... Agreed. I'm sure no team was offering anything better than a 5th. He's worth more to the team than that. Im sure they were asking at least a 3rd for him or no deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: And we’ll play against that elite talent we pass on for the rest of our time in Buffalo like Watson and Mahomes. Drafting a QB high again would be a waste of time. The Bills have committed to Josh Allen, now they have to get players to build up the offense, and they need more depth on defense. Trading down would be a wise move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Respected vet that carries juice in the locker room too must have gone into the decision as well, I expect McD will lean a lot on McCoy over the rest of the season. I don't agree with the decision but that seems to be par for the course with this duo for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Mark Vader said: Drafting a QB high again would be a waste of time. The Bills have committed to Josh Allen, now they have to get players to build up the offense, and they need more depth on defense. Trading down would be a wise move. If the Bills knew 4 games sooner than Manuel wasn’t the answer they could have had another QB in here. Instead we wasted resources skipping on Mack and having to waste time with Orton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We'd wind up getting a 6th for him and the fan base would cry a river of tears. The days of Shady being a bell cow RB and lasting through a 16 game season are looonnnnggg gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 55 minutes ago, Chris66 said: My guess is Shady wants to stay. If he wanted out Im sure they would oblige. Sounds like it. 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: If the Bills knew 4 games sooner than Manuel wasn’t the answer they could have had another QB in here. Instead we wasted resources skipping on Mack and having to waste time with Orton. That's hindsight for ya. Not everything works out as planned. That's just how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: That's hindsight for ya. Not everything works out as planned. That's just how it is. And that’s Buffalo for you. As long as you can explain why something happened it’s okay and excused. The Coach we have right now tells you every chance he gets that he has to look at the tape and correct mistakes as the means to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We should have moved on. Watch the league and there are so many dynamic playmakers at the rb position. Shady is just a guy right now. Sure he will still make some unbelievable jukes but more often than not he is doing too much dancing and putting the offense in 2nd and 3rd and longs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The Bills couldn't trade the best offensive weapon and a team captain and expect to keep the locker room. Beane and McDermott are already on thin ice simply because Peterman is still on the roster. You think we are sick of watching this putrid offense. The defensive players are as well. If Peterman has to start because either Allen isn't ready or Anderson isn't ready and he has a poor game. This locker room could blow up the likes the league has never seen. Sean and Brandon need to hope they get some luck, or else it won't just be a lost season at OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 56 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Laughable. Chastising Bills fans for their lack of loyalty. Just you and the other folks like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Maybe Beane and McD don't want Shady to hit 12k career rushing yards? He will be back under 10,000 by the end of the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible. ...pretty sure it was Marv who said, "if you go by the fans, you'll be sitting with them".....or something like that.....despite it being a slow year for him to date, he is probably the only identifiable offensive player, perhaps emotionally and sentimentally based, because Ivory, Murphy (healed soon?) and Jones (ditto on healing soon) have IMO demonstrated production.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: And that’s Buffalo for you. As long as you can explain why something happened it’s okay and excused. The Coach we have right now tells you every chance he gets that he has to look at the tape and correct mistakes as the means to get better. Yeah, I get the frustration, it sucks. Having said that, I am not abandoning our coach after 2 seasons or our rookie quarterback after one season. $85-90 million in cap space next off season and 10 draft picks. There is a lot that they can do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I think we restructure him in offseason. More up front. Less cap hit and a second year at a low amount if we cut him. He's good for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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