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Maybe the truth is the bills just dont want to give up Shady

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34 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Maybe they didn’t want to go be him up for a 5th...

Agreed. I'm sure no team was offering anything better than a 5th. 

 

He's worth more to the team than that. Im sure they were asking at least a 3rd for him or no deal.

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Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said:

And we’ll play against that elite talent we pass on for the rest of our time in Buffalo like Watson and Mahomes. 

Drafting a QB high again would be a waste of time. The Bills have committed to Josh Allen, now they have to get players to build up the offense, and they need more depth on defense.

 

Trading down would be a wise move.

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Respected vet that carries juice in the locker room too must have gone into the decision as well, I expect McD will lean a lot on McCoy over the rest of the season.

 

I don't agree with the decision but that seems to be par for the course with this duo for me.

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Just now, Mark Vader said:

Drafting a QB high again would be a waste of time. The Bills have committed to Josh Allen, now they have to get players to build up the offense, and they need more depth on defense.

 

Trading down would be a wise move.

If the Bills knew 4 games sooner than Manuel wasn’t the answer they could have had another QB in here. 

 

Instead we wasted resources skipping on Mack and having to waste time with Orton. 

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We'd wind up getting a 6th for him and the fan base would cry a river of tears. The days of Shady being a bell cow RB and lasting through a 16 game season are looonnnnggg gone.

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55 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

My guess is Shady wants to stay. If he wanted out Im sure they would oblige.

Sounds like it. 

 

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level

 

Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible.

Agreed 

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2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

If the Bills knew 4 games sooner than Manuel wasn’t the answer they could have had another QB in here. 

 

Instead we wasted resources skipping on Mack and having to waste time with Orton. 

That's hindsight for ya.

 

Not everything works out as planned. That's just how it is.

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3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

That's hindsight for ya.

 

Not everything works out as planned. That's just how it is.

And that’s Buffalo for you. As long as you can explain why something happened it’s okay and excused.

 

The Coach we have right now tells you every chance he gets that he has to look at the tape  and correct mistakes as the means to get better. 

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We should have moved on. Watch the league and there are so many dynamic playmakers at the rb position. Shady is just a guy right now. Sure he will still make some unbelievable jukes but more often than not he is doing too much dancing and putting the offense in 2nd and 3rd and longs. 

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The Bills couldn't trade the best offensive weapon and a team captain and expect to keep the locker room. Beane and McDermott are already on thin ice simply because Peterman is still on the roster. You think we are sick of watching this putrid offense. The defensive players are as well. If Peterman has to start because either Allen isn't ready or Anderson isn't ready and he has a poor game. This locker room could blow up the likes the league has never seen. Sean and Brandon need to hope they get some luck, or else it won't just be a lost season at OBD. 

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1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

Maybe Beane and McD don't want Shady to hit 12k career rushing yards?

 

 

He will be back under 10,000 by the end of the season...

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1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level

 

Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible.

 

 

...pretty sure it was Marv who said, "if you go by the fans, you'll be sitting with them".....or something like that.....despite it being a slow year for him to date, he is probably the only identifiable offensive player, perhaps emotionally and sentimentally based, because Ivory, Murphy (healed soon?) and Jones (ditto on healing soon) have IMO demonstrated production....

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51 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

And that’s Buffalo for you. As long as you can explain why something happened it’s okay and excused.

 

The Coach we have right now tells you every chance he gets that he has to look at the tape  and correct mistakes as the means to get better. 

Yeah, I get the frustration, it sucks.

 

Having said that, I am not abandoning our coach after 2 seasons or our rookie quarterback after one season.

 

$85-90 million in cap space next off season and 10 draft picks. There is a lot that they can do with that.

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I think we restructure him in offseason.  More up front.  Less cap hit and a second year at a low amount if we cut him.  He's good for Allen. 

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1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

And that’s Buffalo for you. As long as you can explain why something happened it’s okay and excused.

 

The Coach we have right now tells you every chance he gets that he has to look at the tape  and correct mistakes as the means to get better. 

Jesus.....your banter is old

 

How about this....why dont you tell us how YOU would fix it?

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2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

He still has juice.....just a OL that doesnt create holes or get blocks at the 2nd level

 

Just for the love of god dont release him in the offseason if we are not going to trade him........get the OL fixed as soon as possible.

Another sign that Beane is going to go balls to the wall with that 84 million.

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If there was any truth to the story that they were asking for a 2+3 then I have to believe they weren't interested in moving him. Nobody was going there. Even if that was only the opening ask, hard to negotiate down without looking a little foolish. 

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2 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Another sign that Beane is going to go balls to the wall with that 84 million.

I really dont think that he is....

 

I think we have specific players we are gonna target.....and the rest is draft

 

That is why we didnt bring in anyone that would require a pick

 

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Another ego move for McD. Never going to trade a Captain. 

 

I do see the great workers attitude and culture Kelvin Benjamin still on the team. Tooo. 

3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Another sign that Beane is going to go balls to the wall with that 84 million.

 

Yep. Then when they are fired the new regime can rinse and repeat the “bad contract” flush excuse 

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

Another ego move for McD. Never going to trade a Captain. 

 

I do see the great workers attitude and culture Kelvin Benjamin still on the team. Tooo. 

 

Yep. Then when they are fired the new regime can rinse and repeat the “bad contract” flush excuse 

I think Beane is not going to do that....I think we will not be delving out a bunch of bad contracts

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

I think Beane is not going to do that....I think we will not be delving out a bunch of bad contracts

 

Your right. They need to milk the talent gap excuse as long as possible. Why field a competitive team. The sheep will still buy tickets 

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Your right. They need to milk the talent gap excuse as long as possible. Why field a competitive team. The sheep will still buy tickets 

Do you want a "competative team" that goes 9-7......or a young team that grows up together and can actually get to 10 wins?

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Just now, John from Riverside said:

Do you want a "competative team" that goes 9-7......or a young team that grows up together and can actually get to 10 wins?

 

And what Proof do either one of these have that show they can do that. I saw them take an 8-8 team. Get one more win out of them and then this years ***** show. 

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Just now, MAJBobby said:

 

And what Proof do either one of these have that show they can do that. I saw them take an 8-8 team. Get one more win out of them and then this years ***** show. 

So....basically not enough data

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