John from Riverside Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 To me this would all be about what the future plans are for Shady after this year....because while I will continue to root for them I feel like this season is pretty much in the bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, no name said: trade your best player?  seems like a present bills move.  smh I dont think he is our best player anymore. It looks like age is catching up to him and he has lost a step. I will say, its hard to judge him due to our enigmatic offense and the fact run blocking/scheme is brutal.  Even if im wrong about hitting the brick wall, we are going no where this season. Let him try for the Lombardi and let us get something that may pay dividends down the road.   Edited October 24, 2018 by billsfan_34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Let me just go and order my Shady jersey then...it will definitely happen then.   Love Shady in Buffalo but he’s got 1-2 more good years left and I just don’t see him getting to the big game here in that time. Give him a shot on another team as long as it’s not the Pats*   I don’t really see a good fit for him aside from the Eagles or one of the NFC North teams?  Would love to see Tarik Cohen in a Bills uni but idk if the Bears would do that trade yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 IF they are trying to trade him, I am sure they hope he plays on Monday Night so they can showcase him to a National audience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Tre White isn't getting traded. Â Tre White may be one of the Top 10Â best Bills players drafted in our history. I don't think we have ever had a lockdown corner of his abilities outside of the great Butch Byrd, but his talent is being wasted because of the dearth of talent in other places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 52 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Â Good chance that at least 4 of them are gone next year too. Â I think that Hughes and Shaq could stay if they play well for the rest of the season, and I suppose there's a chance that LorAx will get re-signed for a cheap veteran sum, but I can't see anyone else from that list being back with the team in 2019 Â I could see GB being interested, as could Seattle, Philadelphia, or Washington. My god, can you imagine if 5 years ago somebody said Shady and AP would be in the same backfield still playing? Terrifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Really all he is anymore is a name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Soda Popinski said: Really all he is anymore is a name But not in reality. If you put him back on the Eagles the last 2 years hed have 1500 ya each year, current situation is a lead anchor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, BillsMafia13 said: But not in reality. If you put him back on the Eagles the last 2 years hed have 1500 ya each year, current situation is a lead anchor The only team i would trade him to is the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: Let me just go and order my Shady jersey then...it will definitely happen then.   Love Shady in Buffalo but he’s got 1-2 more good years left and I just don’t see him getting to the big game here in that time. Give him a shot on another team as long as it’s not the Pats*   I don’t really see a good fit for him aside from the Eagles or one of the NFC North teams?  Would love to see Tarik Cohen in a Bills uni but idk if the Bears would do that trade yet.  Not a chance. Jordan Howard would probably be more likely but I can't imagine the Bears seeing McCoy as an upgrade over either of their RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 he's under 4 yards per carry this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, jr1 said: he's under 4 yards per carry this season  There's a good reason for that and it's not because Shady isn't capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Curtis Martin ran for almost 5,000 yards after he turned age 30. There are exceptions to the rule. If a contender needs a RB, say Philly, I wouldn't be surprised if we got a 2nd or a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 34 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:  Tre White may be one of the Top 10 best Bills players drafted in our history.  I laughed at this, but it may or may not become true. It's FAR too early for these declarations.  He isn't a lockdown corner until he plays at a high level for multiple seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, jr1 said: he's under 4 yards per carry this season does he even have 100yds total this year? can't be much more if he has surpassed that mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) If you can get a third or fourth, go for it; Philly's desperate. Our OL can't create a seam, let alone a hole, for McCoy. So why not? Next years OL better be significantly better, but McCoy can lose his game by than, given his age and the hits he's taking this season. Edited October 24, 2018 by Formerly Allan in MD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Exactly why would you trade one of your best players for a mid to late round pick? The odds of drafting a starter are less than 50/50 even in the best possible scenario. And given the historic incompetence of our current front office on evaluating offensive talent, it is downright suicide to have to fill the hole you would create. Â Historic Success Chart The numbers show us the following outline for finding consistent starters: 1st Round - OL (83%) LB (70%) TE (67%) DB (64%) QB (63%) WR (58%) RB (58%) DL (58%) 2nd Round - OL (70%) LB (55%) TE (50%) WR (49%) DB (46%) QB (27%) DL (26%) RB (25%) 3rd Round - OL (40%) TE (39%) LB (34%) DL (27%) WR (25%) DB (24%) QB (17%) RB (16%) 4th Round - DL (37%) TE (33%) OL (29%) LB (16%) WR(12%) DB (11%) RB (11%) QB (8%) 5th Round - TE (32%) DB (17%) WR (16%) OL (16%) DL (13%) RB (9%) LB (4%) QB (0%) 6th Round - TE (26%) OL (16%) DL (13%) WR (9%) DB (8%) RB (6%) LB (5%) QB (0%) 7th Round - DB (11%) OL (9%) QB (6%) WR (5%) DL (3%) LB (2%) RB (0%) TE (0%) https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round Edited October 24, 2018 by simpleman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, DCOrange said:  Not a chance. Jordan Howard would probably be more likely but I can't imagine the Bears seeing McCoy as an upgrade over either of their RBs. I agree with you but let me be hopeful here lol  Wouldn’t mind see Howard in a Bills uni either. Beane is a witch though so you never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 At this point you're doing Shady a favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, simpleman said: Â it is downright suicide to have to fill the hole you would create. McCoy truly wishes the Bills would create a hole for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: McCoy truly wishes the Bills would create a hole for him. Â ...to run through or hide in?....just askin'.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Bills should trade Kyle to the Rams. He can be a good rotational guy for this, give Kyle a chance to win a ring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:  I laughed at this, but it may or may not become true. It's FAR too early for these declarations.  He isn't a lockdown corner until he plays at a high level for multiple seasons.  You really don't appreciate a great corner until they are gone, so you may laugh, but unless he gets seriously injured he will not disappoint. Him being second in voting for 2017 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year is not a fluke, but hey, keep laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, H2o said: Curtis Martin ran for almost 5,000 yards after he turned age 30. There are exceptions to the rule. If a contender needs a RB, say Philly, I wouldn't be surprised if we got a 2nd or a 3rd.  Contender? Philly? They aren't a McCoy away from returning to the SB.  6 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Bills should trade Kyle to the Rams. He can be a good rotational guy for this, give Kyle a chance to win a ring.  What if the Rams don't want him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:  Contender? Philly? They aren't a McCoy away from returning to the SB.      ...Martin gained those yards post 30 as a nine year Jet............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:  Contender? Philly? They aren't a McCoy away from returning to the SB. Have you seen the NFC East lately? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 After today's events, I predict Jim and Jill Kelly will be the biggest names to move...just so Chad can't crash on their couch, and try to ingratiate himself with OBD.  Doubt he would get far with McDermott and Beane, but I can see him sweet talking the Pegulas, the Pegula daughters, the Pegula dog, and 65% of these boards 'he's changed!' 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:  Contender? Philly? They aren't a McCoy away from returning to the SB. Not even Leonard?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, H2o said: Have you seen the NFC East lately? Â Yes. Â The winner of that crap fest will be destroyed in the first week of playoffs. Â That makes them all not contenders for the SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:  Yes.  The winner of that crap fest will be destroyed in the first week of playoffs.  That makes them all not contenders for the SB All you have to do is get in, hit your stride at the right time, and ride that wave. Seen Pittsburgh do it a couple of times and the Giants too. Let's not forget that run by Foles last year either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 hours ago, freddyjj said: Love Shady but can definitely see this happening. No TDs this year, YPC pretty average and big cap hit in 2019. A team in the hunt will be glad to pull him in and use him as a bell cow or 3rd down specialist.  Daboll has NE pedigree where the RBs and WRs are replaceable pieces. Personally I think RB is easiest spot to replace via draft. And Murphy/Ivory could be serviceable backfield for rest of the season.   Wonder if Allen's prognosis is taken into consideration. If out another 4-6 weeks then Shady is a goner IMHO. WRs are so replaceable we don’t have any. It works if you have the GOAT under center. Fundamentals class, fundamentals 26 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Bills should trade Kyle to the Rams. He can be a good rotational guy for this, give Kyle a chance to win a ring. Kyle Williams is a guy you gotta feel for. Brings his lunch pail to work every day, does what is asked of him and provides a great locker room presence. Sniffs the playoffs one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 5 hours ago, K-9 said: I wonder if teams would have pause trading for an RB currently in the concussion protocol.  I'd think that's the type of injury that wouldn't stop a team from signing him as long as it's not expected to be long term. Wouldn't even shock me to see the Bills hold him pout this week if trying to trade him to make sure it doesn't happen again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 it makes sense. The season's over after the final gun Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 So glad we waited until his value is at an all time low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I saw a rumor that GB has called the Bills about him twice  Get it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Tre White isn't getting traded.  No, they'll let him walk away in FA at the end of his rookie contract and pass on a blue-chip QB prospect to trade back to take another first round DB. It's how the Bills roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, SoTier said:  No, they'll let him walk away in FA at the end of his rookie contract and pass on a blue-chip QB prospect to trade back to take another first round DB. It's how the Bills roll.  He probably won’t fit the scheme of the new defensive head coach that replaces McD.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:  He probably won’t fit the scheme of the new defensive head coach that replaces McD..  That, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:  He probably won’t fit the scheme of the new defensive head coach that replaces McD.. It’s sad because it’s true.  You win by running and stopping the run!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 58 minutes ago, H2o said: All you have to do is get in, hit your stride at the right time, and ride that wave. Seen Pittsburgh do it a couple of times and the Giants too. Let's not forget that run by Foles last year either.   The Eagles were 11-2 before Foles went on a run.  They are in steep decline from those days.  And the Rams and NO have gotten even better than they were last year.  The Skins are better than the Eagles right now. 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: After today's events, I predict Jim and Jill Kelly will be the biggest names to move...just so Chad can't crash on their couch, and try to ingratiate himself with OBD.  Doubt he would get far with McDermott and Beane, but I can see him sweet talking the Pegulas, the Pegula daughters, the Pegula dog, and 65% of these boards 'he's changed!' Not even Leonard?!   Their only chance.  Maybe he can mind meld with Goff and Brees to derail their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: It’s sad because it’s true.  You win by running and stopping the run!!!  Ground and pound and get the QB that can throw in that Buffalo blizzard every week.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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