Threedollabills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING Edited October 8, 2018 by Threedollabills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 QB ratings are as worthless as used toilet paper. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 OMG WHAT A BUST TRADE HIM NOW SUCH A NIGHTMARE 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 60.4 is barely ahead of zero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, MichFan said: OMG WHAT A BUST TRADE HIM NOW SUCH A NIGHTMARE Trade? No one wants him I'm sure. I say we just release him and take the entire cap hit this year with the rest so we have more $$$ for FA next year. Seriously though? This is stupid. He's played 4 games and is 2-2 with basically all 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string WR's on any other team in the NFL. Is he lighting up the league? No, but what did you expect. He has work to do. If we're still having this same convo by the middle of next year, and we clearly have better talent at the skill positions, THEN there is a problem because the game is not slowing down for him at all. If you watch the overhead cam of the WR's running routes they are getting absolutely 0 separation on most plays. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Hmmm.....4 games, yeah that seems like a sufficient sample size from which to derive useful statistics. We should cut him, stats don't lie do they? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Rookie after 4 games. Holy cow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING He is raw- let him grow. He hasnt been a turnover machine like some rookies are. The odds of him being good are in his favor- relax and dont buy into the bs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Let's guess OP's Wonderlic! I'll say it never gets above Kelvin Benjamin's..... 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I’m not embarrassed. Are you embarrassed? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING Just out of curiousity, would you mind filling me in on how NFL passer rating is calculated? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Really, really, really stupid post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: QB ratings are as worthless as used toilet paper. Not true. Sometimes when I'm on the throne I'll use some toilet paper to blow my nose and then I use it to.......... nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 38 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING Really, really, really stupid post! Where do you guys come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m not embarrassed. Are you embarrassed? Embarrassed?? No way! I'm very proud that our Punter has a "passer rating" essentially the same as last year's Heisman winning QB!! Edited October 8, 2018 by Mr. WEO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolstoy Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 39 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING Guys, give the OP a break. he is simply pointing out a stat that is a bit discouraging, and asking for your help in finding a brighter side. We have a habit on this board of viciously attacking people who say anything that we don't agree with. So, as some replies have said, it is only four games, and his first four games in the league. Let's give it more time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Embarrassed?? No way! I'm very proud that our Punter has a "passer rating" essentially the same as last year's Heisman winning QB!! But I think he got elusive style (and WTF?) points, which are not reflected in the NFL stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augie said: But I think he got elusive style (and WTF?) points, which are not reflected in the NFL stats. So elusive the pats couldn't find him to participate in training camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) remember when everyone was really cool, calm and collected in the preseason. so level-headed. he's just a rookie. we need to give him time. let him learn. it's going to be a down year. everyone predicting between 3-8 wins. fast forward to week 5. 2-3 record. Allen is a bust. We should've drafted Mahomes. Also, Josh Allen is tied for 8th in the NFL for rushing TDs. Let's compile more stats that don't mean anything. Edited October 8, 2018 by quinnearlysghost88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Grow up, OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m not embarrassed. Are you embarrassed? He should be, this is a really silly post.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 The Bills 2 wins were also not conductive to propping up Allen's stats. The Titans game was a defensive struggle and the entire second half of the Vikings game was a conservative game plan designed to avoid turn overs and run down the clock. Let's see how the season plays out and understand the context that Allen is a raw rookie playing with little supporting talent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 59 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: QB ratings are as worthless as used toilet paper. That is not the point. It nonetheless IS a statistical nightmare to have 3 Bills at the bottom of everyone who has thrown a pass this year so... 56 minutes ago, MichFan said: OMG WHAT A BUST TRADE HIM NOW SUCH A NIGHTMARE I love Allentown 51 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: 60.4 is barely ahead of zero? check the link bruh 46 minutes ago, Mickey said: Hmmm.....4 games, yeah that seems like a sufficient sample size from which to derive useful statistics. We should cut him, stats don't lie do they? ugh not about useful...embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just out of curiousity, would you mind filling me in on how NFL passer rating is calculated? Irrelevant, 2 of the bottom 50 of all who have thrown a pass (this includes OBJ who has a 156.whatever so I get how PR doesn't mean much depending on multiple factors), have both started in the NFL and they are both BILLS. I live in Mtl and it's all Pats band-wagon-jumpers up here so these kind of stats are fuel to the fire and it sucks. Baker is the stuff and Darnold seems to be throwing touch passes all over; We should've gone full-mental-Ditka-style and traded the entire draft for number 1. Edited October 9, 2018 by Threedollabills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: QB ratings are as worthless as used toilet paper. Actually in college (Cornell in the 80s), in my art class, a fellow classmate made a paper mache owl with used (pre-wet with her urine) toilet paper. It was my first foray into recycling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Not true. Sometimes when I'm on the throne I'll use some toilet paper to blow my nose and then I use it to.......... nevermind. That is really gross to wipe your snot on your bunghole. Are you a politician by chance? 52 minutes ago, vorpma said: Really, really, really stupid post! Where do you guys come from? Your mom is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: remember when everyone was really cool, calm and collected in the preseason. so level-headed. he's just a rookie. we need to give him time. let him learn. it's going to be a down year. everyone predicting between 3-8 wins. fast forward to week 5. 2-3 record. Allen is a bust. We should've drafted Mahomes. Also, Josh Allen is tied for 8th in the NFL for rushing TDs. Let's compile more stats that don't mean anything. I dunno, Cam rushed for 14 his rookie year. 3 in 4 games doesn't even average that. I'm glad that Mahomes is not here Tre is the best DB on the planet. I love Allen btw which is why my faith is in his ability to intellectually process the game and slow it down. Still down with the process. Edited October 9, 2018 by Threedollabills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Take a pill Robocop!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: my faith is in his ability to intellectually process I bet you place that same faith in everyone who surrounds you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Let's guess OP's Wonderlic! I'll say it never gets above Kelvin Benjamin's..... Keep eating Cheetos whilst doing severely socially unacceptable things to yourself. I will wonderlic the heck out of you cutie pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 This thread is simply silliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Yeah, just cut him! What can possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: 60.4 is barely ahead of zero? On the Bills fandom idiocy scale (FIS), yes, yes it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Threedollabills said: Keep eating Cheetos whilst doing severely socially unacceptable things to yourself. I will wonderlic the heck out of you cutie pie I don't eat Cheetos while doing that...the dust is abrasive. Edited October 9, 2018 by Mr. WEO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Rookie QB, rookie coordinator, starting RB hasn't been healthy, lousy receivers and some tough opponents. That makes it tough for the QB and the offense as a whole. Patience is needed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING Did you know Ryan Fitzpatrick use to be the smartest human on the planet....lol Seriously. I get what you are saying and it gives me hope. Thanks for the find. Edited October 9, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2-2 as our starter. I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING It's funny you mention Leaf...the guy who was picked just ahead of him -- his first four games' qbr: 58.6, 51.1, 39.3, 63.2...he had 3 tds & 11 ints and was 0-4. He got better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb386 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Because of the type of prospect Allen is, I am willing to wait and see. I would be more concerned if we had one of the other QB's drafted high this year and they were looking the way Allen has looked. It is going to take time to see if he can develop, it was known that he was raw and would need time to learn and develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 This is an atrocity! How dare he?! Cut the kid, sell the team, burn your jerseys. It's over. Everybody go home... especially those that constantly dig for some stupid new number to point to so they can say, "I'm right, see? SEE?! THIS NUMBER SAYS SO!" "Sir, that's a banana and I'll thank you to keep it out of my face." "ANALYTICS!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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