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Because he "earned it"  My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire.  They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron.  Watch them sign Paxton Lynch.

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38 minutes ago, realtruelove said:

Because he "earned it"  My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire.  They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron.  Watch them sign Paxton Lynch.

 

I think that would be good. Get him signed and let Peterman go see his therapist.

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53 minutes ago, stuvian said:

shot played and over

 

He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year.   #SaveAllen

 

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46 minutes ago, Success said:

I think the only hesitation right now is wanting to protect Allen.

 

But they have to throw some caution to the wind on that.  He has to start.

Exactly...if u listen to McD, he explains that it wasn’t just because of performance that Allen wasn’t the starter, but also “the people around him” on the field.

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6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year.   #SaveAllen

 

That’s the problem right there. While resetting the roster they let it get so bad that their best bet may be to waste a year of development for Allen. That’s a sad state for an NFL team and when Allen goes through his bumps the second year that’s a year closer towards his payday. The beauty of hitting on a first round QB is the five years of control at a minimal cost. These clowns don’t even have a roster where it’s safe to let him develop. 

 

That’s not how a professional team is supposed to be run. It’s a disgrace. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

That’s the problem right there. While resetting the roster they let it get so bad that their best bet may be to waste a year of development for Allen. That’s a sad state for an NFL team and when Allen goes through his bumps the second year that’s a year closer towards his payday. The beauty of hitting on a first round QB is the five years of control at a minimal cost. These clowns don’t even have a roster where it’s safe to let him develop. 

 

That’s not how a professional team is supposed to be run. It’s a disgrace. 

 

 

No, it’s not a waste or a disgrace. It’s just wise to move along slowly. Is a home game in weeks 5-6 a good time? Maybe. Is throwing hem in to get beaten to death against the Chargers Sunday a good thing? Probably not. 

 

And by saying “they let it get so bad”, we have to remember how many drafts these guys have had. ONE. And a TON of dead cap space, which will soon be corrected. This was set up over a long period of time. You don’t fix that over night. Rational people get that. 

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Just now, Augie said:

 

No, it’s not a waste or a disgrace. It’s just wise to move along slowly. Is a home game in weeks 5-6 a good time? Maybe. Is throwing hem in to get beaten to death against the Chargers Sunday a good thing? Probably not. 

He wasted snaps day after day on AJM, who isn’t even on the team anymore and Nate P. who is totally inept. They haven’t prioritized Allen’s development. It is a shame, the only solution they attempted on the offensive line was Bodine. Another mistake which could have been eliminated by Beane and his scouts simply looking at his former teams message boards. When fans are desperate to get a guy out of town does he ever go onto have success at his next stop? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Success said:

I think the only hesitation right now is wanting to protect Allen.

 

But they have to throw some caution to the wind on that.  He has to start.

 

I agree with this post.  

 

Peterman can't even compete with this offensive line and they know Allen's skill set gives the team a much better chance to win.  However, they may have wanted to avoid exposing him to play behind that line.  Now it can't even be hidden because of how poorly Peterman played.  You can at least game plan with a bad line and Allen's skills.   I would not be surprised if Peterman still gets the nod - as they may try to push that decision as far down the road as they possibly can.  

 

Our offensive line is the worst I've seen in my years of being a fan.   It's a terrible spot to be in.  I mean, he can't "learn" by watching Peterman and that o-line.

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In any other circumstance, NP would have been sent packing by midnight yesterday.  But since our line is SO bad, he probably starts this Sunday just to keep Allen from getting killed by the Chargers.  

 

If I were NP, I'm not which I would fear more: getting sent home now, or facing another Chargers debacle behind this line … ?

 

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I just don't understand why they traded McCarron when the QB's consist of a rookie and and 2nd year QB with 2 starts that resulted in 5 pics in the first half and zero complete games behind a reshuffled, vastly downgraded O-line.  They could afford his cap - they signed him.  He would be no worse than Peterman and another player to take snaps to provide time for Allen's development.

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9 minutes ago, gobillsatthebeach said:

I just don't understand why they traded McCarron when the QB's consist of a rookie and and 2nd year QB with 2 starts that resulted in 5 pics in the first half and zero complete games behind a reshuffled, vastly downgraded O-line.  They could afford his cap - they signed him.  He would be no worse than Peterman and another player to take snaps to provide time for Allen's development.

Beane needed to rocoup the 7th he wasted trading for Coleman and then cutting him...

 

regardless it was a very irresponsible, shortsighted decision. Another bad omen for beane. 

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17 hours ago, Augie said:

 

He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year.   #SaveAllen

 

I agree with this. Lets at least wait till we get thru SD and Min. After that stretch of games, start the rookie.

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18 hours ago, realtruelove said:

Because he "earned it"  My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire.  They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron.  Watch them sign Paxton Lynch.

 

 

Isn't Osweiler available??

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, gr8billsfan said:

im surprised anyone on the starting OL earned their job. Aside from Groy and Dawkins, everyone else must go. ESPECIALLY DucASSe

Groy????  He got pummelled to a pulp.  He was part of the problem.  Dawkins got manhandled by Suggs and Za"Darius Smith multiple times.

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17 hours ago, Commonsense said:

That’s the problem right there. While resetting the roster they let it get so bad that their best bet may be to waste a year of development for Allen. That’s a sad state for an NFL team and when Allen goes through his bumps the second year that’s a year closer towards his payday. The beauty of hitting on a first round QB is the five years of control at a minimal cost. These clowns don’t even have a roster where it’s safe to let him develop. 

 

That’s not how a professional team is supposed to be run. It’s a disgrace. 

 

Per all the experts Allen was a “project” with all the tools but not ready to start in Year 1. So maybe your HC planned for this and is hoping load up next year with young skill players and signing some FA lineman to protect Allen?

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2 hours ago, FearLess Price said:

I agree with this. Lets at least wait till we get thru SD and Min. After that stretch of games, start the rookie.

 

It’s a difficult situation because it’s more than a little awkward to say “Yeah, we know we have to go to Allen, but we’re not doing it until we think he can survive physically and mentally, so we’re just going to throw Peterman out here for a few more games. Let him take the beating while we move up in the next draft.”  But that may just be what’s going to happen. Now, how do you explain that....without explaining that? 

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At this point you have to wonder does Peterman know how to throw a man open, does he process things slowly & because of that is that why he’s not an NFL caliber QB? Either way his lack of velocity, questionable durability, nerves, and unathleticism attribute to what we’ve seen so far on Sunday’s. I’m not sure how someone with so few ideal skills can get many more starts. 

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20 hours ago, Augie said:

 

He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year.   #SaveAllen

 

I prefer bringing Kap in and offering him up to the football Gods vs Nasty Nate if i'm being honest Augie.

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Man everyone needs to relax a little -  they played really really bad, but let’s play a few more games before we get the pitchforks out-  with that said there is no reason to delay the Allen era.

 

I bet 80% of the posters supported starting Peterman last week.

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If Allen starts Sunday and is still standing at the end of the game without the offense line getting him killed I'd consider that a victory in itself. 

 

Ideally I'd still like him to sit a few more weeks but on the flip side maybe baptism under fire may give him the foundation for both mental and physical toughness needed to play the full season.  Just trying to make the most of a screwed up situation. 

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I dont understand why Mcdermott wouldn't do with Allen what he did with Edmunds. Similar age both freaky athletes both a little raw.  Edmunds from first day at mini camp was groomed by McDermott to be the guy, how to lead.  While at the same time Allen was regulate to third and getting the least amount of first team reps.  Now 4 months later after 2 quarters of the first game Allen who was prepared to play the least by the coaching staff is the obvious player that needs to play.  Same blunder Obrien made, Lovie Smith and Jon Fox got fired for it.  It's a pretty big indictment of his evaluation and expectation of the position.

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4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

At this point you have to wonder does Peterman know how to throw a man open, does he process things slowly & because of that is that why he’s not an NFL caliber QB? Either way his lack of velocity, questionable durability, nerves, and unathleticism attribute to what we’ve seen so far on Sunday’s. I’m not sure how someone with so few ideal skills can get many more starts. 

 

I can't figure out why the kid looks functional-to-decent in the preseason and then looks like a guy who won a "QB FOR THE DAY" fan contest in the regular season. 

 

I get it -- it's the preseason, blah, blah, blah... but still, he was able to execute the basic fundamentals of throwing and completing a pass to a receiver. 

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On 9/10/2018 at 5:05 PM, realtruelove said:

Because he "earned it"  My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire.  They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron.  Watch them sign Paxton Lynch.

I hope you are right.

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