realtruelove Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Because he "earned it" My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire. They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron. Watch them sign Paxton Lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 shot played and over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 im surprised anyone on the starting OL earned their job. Aside from Groy and Dawkins, everyone else must go. ESPECIALLY DucASSe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I think the only hesitation right now is wanting to protect Allen. But they have to throw some caution to the wind on that. He has to start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, realtruelove said: Because he "earned it" My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire. They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron. Watch them sign Paxton Lynch. I think that would be good. Get him signed and let Peterman go see his therapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 53 minutes ago, stuvian said: shot played and over He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year. #SaveAllen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, gr8billsfan said: im surprised anyone on the starting OL earned their job. Aside from Groy and Dawkins, everyone else must go. ESPECIALLY DucASSe https://mobile.twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1039277135624585216 Im sorry what were you saying about Groy ?LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, Success said: I think the only hesitation right now is wanting to protect Allen. But they have to throw some caution to the wind on that. He has to start. Exactly...if u listen to McD, he explains that it wasn’t just because of performance that Allen wasn’t the starter, but also “the people around him” on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Augie said: He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year. #SaveAllen That’s the problem right there. While resetting the roster they let it get so bad that their best bet may be to waste a year of development for Allen. That’s a sad state for an NFL team and when Allen goes through his bumps the second year that’s a year closer towards his payday. The beauty of hitting on a first round QB is the five years of control at a minimal cost. These clowns don’t even have a roster where it’s safe to let him develop. That’s not how a professional team is supposed to be run. It’s a disgrace. Edited September 11, 2018 by Commonsense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Commonsense said: That’s the problem right there. While resetting the roster they let it get so bad that their best bet may be to waste a year of development for Allen. That’s a sad state for an NFL team and when Allen goes through his bumps the second year that’s a year closer towards his payday. The beauty of hitting on a first round QB is the five years of control at a minimal cost. These clowns don’t even have a roster where it’s safe to let him develop. That’s not how a professional team is supposed to be run. It’s a disgrace. No, it’s not a waste or a disgrace. It’s just wise to move along slowly. Is a home game in weeks 5-6 a good time? Maybe. Is throwing hem in to get beaten to death against the Chargers Sunday a good thing? Probably not. And by saying “they let it get so bad”, we have to remember how many drafts these guys have had. ONE. And a TON of dead cap space, which will soon be corrected. This was set up over a long period of time. You don’t fix that over night. Rational people get that. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Now it’s time to end the suffering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just now, Augie said: No, it’s not a waste or a disgrace. It’s just wise to move along slowly. Is a home game in weeks 5-6 a good time? Maybe. Is throwing hem in to get beaten to death against the Chargers Sunday a good thing? Probably not. He wasted snaps day after day on AJM, who isn’t even on the team anymore and Nate P. who is totally inept. They haven’t prioritized Allen’s development. It is a shame, the only solution they attempted on the offensive line was Bodine. Another mistake which could have been eliminated by Beane and his scouts simply looking at his former teams message boards. When fans are desperate to get a guy out of town does he ever go onto have success at his next stop? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 McDermott will never let his adopted son go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, Pasaluki said: https://mobile.twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1039277135624585216 Im sorry what were you saying about Groy ?LOL yeah that was pretty bad. one play tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: McDermott will never let his adopted son go! The loyalty is odd to the point of being creepy. Blackmail? Or just plain stupidity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Success said: I think the only hesitation right now is wanting to protect Allen. But they have to throw some caution to the wind on that. He has to start. I agree with this post. Peterman can't even compete with this offensive line and they know Allen's skill set gives the team a much better chance to win. However, they may have wanted to avoid exposing him to play behind that line. Now it can't even be hidden because of how poorly Peterman played. You can at least game plan with a bad line and Allen's skills. I would not be surprised if Peterman still gets the nod - as they may try to push that decision as far down the road as they possibly can. Our offensive line is the worst I've seen in my years of being a fan. It's a terrible spot to be in. I mean, he can't "learn" by watching Peterman and that o-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 In any other circumstance, NP would have been sent packing by midnight yesterday. But since our line is SO bad, he probably starts this Sunday just to keep Allen from getting killed by the Chargers. If I were NP, I'm not which I would fear more: getting sent home now, or facing another Chargers debacle behind this line … ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsatthebeach Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I just don't understand why they traded McCarron when the QB's consist of a rookie and and 2nd year QB with 2 starts that resulted in 5 pics in the first half and zero complete games behind a reshuffled, vastly downgraded O-line. They could afford his cap - they signed him. He would be no worse than Peterman and another player to take snaps to provide time for Allen's development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gobillsatthebeach said: I just don't understand why they traded McCarron when the QB's consist of a rookie and and 2nd year QB with 2 starts that resulted in 5 pics in the first half and zero complete games behind a reshuffled, vastly downgraded O-line. They could afford his cap - they signed him. He would be no worse than Peterman and another player to take snaps to provide time for Allen's development. Beane needed to rocoup the 7th he wasted trading for Coleman and then cutting him... regardless it was a very irresponsible, shortsighted decision. Another bad omen for beane. Edited September 11, 2018 by COTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsatthebeach Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Giving up a QB seems a bit steep for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 16 hours ago, COTC said: Now it’s time to end the suffering... Ending the new Peterman threads will go a long toward achieving that.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 17 hours ago, Augie said: He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year. #SaveAllen I agree with this. Lets at least wait till we get thru SD and Min. After that stretch of games, start the rookie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 18 hours ago, realtruelove said: Because he "earned it" My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire. They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron. Watch them sign Paxton Lynch. Isn't Osweiler available?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The shot that Peterman got was a double bogey.. They needed him to have a hole in one, maybe an eagle or hell, even a par would suffice......12 shots in the rough ain’t gonna get it done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 18 hours ago, gr8billsfan said: im surprised anyone on the starting OL earned their job. Aside from Groy and Dawkins, everyone else must go. ESPECIALLY DucASSe Groy???? He got pummelled to a pulp. He was part of the problem. Dawkins got manhandled by Suggs and Za"Darius Smith multiple times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 17 hours ago, Pasaluki said: https://mobile.twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1039277135624585216 Im sorry what were you saying about Groy ?LOL What? Vlad ran away from the defender and Groy got bowled over. Both failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: What? Vlad ran away from the defender and Groy got bowled over. Both failed miserably. omg groy got tossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 17 hours ago, Commonsense said: That’s the problem right there. While resetting the roster they let it get so bad that their best bet may be to waste a year of development for Allen. That’s a sad state for an NFL team and when Allen goes through his bumps the second year that’s a year closer towards his payday. The beauty of hitting on a first round QB is the five years of control at a minimal cost. These clowns don’t even have a roster where it’s safe to let him develop. That’s not how a professional team is supposed to be run. It’s a disgrace. Per all the experts Allen was a “project” with all the tools but not ready to start in Year 1. So maybe your HC planned for this and is hoping load up next year with young skill players and signing some FA lineman to protect Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, teef said: omg groy got tossed. I believe the term is roached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 IDK if they can afford to start Josh Allen if he struggles mightily but Darnold and Mayfield play well. Would instantly put him n the hotseat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, FearLess Price said: I agree with this. Lets at least wait till we get thru SD and Min. After that stretch of games, start the rookie. It’s a difficult situation because it’s more than a little awkward to say “Yeah, we know we have to go to Allen, but we’re not doing it until we think he can survive physically and mentally, so we’re just going to throw Peterman out here for a few more games. Let him take the beating while we move up in the next draft.” But that may just be what’s going to happen. Now, how do you explain that....without explaining that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) At this point you have to wonder does Peterman know how to throw a man open, does he process things slowly & because of that is that why he’s not an NFL caliber QB? Either way his lack of velocity, questionable durability, nerves, and unathleticism attribute to what we’ve seen so far on Sunday’s. I’m not sure how someone with so few ideal skills can get many more starts. Edited September 11, 2018 by Dr.Sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 20 hours ago, Augie said: He let him get shot by the firing squad. He’s the sacrificial lamb until we can block a little, maybe get open once in a while, and hopefully learn to catch. It is NOT about the next game, or even this year. #SaveAllen I prefer bringing Kap in and offering him up to the football Gods vs Nasty Nate if i'm being honest Augie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Figster said: I prefer bringing Kap in and offering him up to the football Gods vs Nasty Nate if i'm being honest Augie. Yeah, a polite little “no thank you” would be awkward at this point in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Man everyone needs to relax a little - they played really really bad, but let’s play a few more games before we get the pitchforks out- with that said there is no reason to delay the Allen era. I bet 80% of the posters supported starting Peterman last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 If Allen starts Sunday and is still standing at the end of the game without the offense line getting him killed I'd consider that a victory in itself. Ideally I'd still like him to sit a few more weeks but on the flip side maybe baptism under fire may give him the foundation for both mental and physical toughness needed to play the full season. Just trying to make the most of a screwed up situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) I dont understand why Mcdermott wouldn't do with Allen what he did with Edmunds. Similar age both freaky athletes both a little raw. Edmunds from first day at mini camp was groomed by McDermott to be the guy, how to lead. While at the same time Allen was regulate to third and getting the least amount of first team reps. Now 4 months later after 2 quarters of the first game Allen who was prepared to play the least by the coaching staff is the obvious player that needs to play. Same blunder Obrien made, Lovie Smith and Jon Fox got fired for it. It's a pretty big indictment of his evaluation and expectation of the position. Edited September 12, 2018 by Mat68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoandfourteen Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: At this point you have to wonder does Peterman know how to throw a man open, does he process things slowly & because of that is that why he’s not an NFL caliber QB? Either way his lack of velocity, questionable durability, nerves, and unathleticism attribute to what we’ve seen so far on Sunday’s. I’m not sure how someone with so few ideal skills can get many more starts. I can't figure out why the kid looks functional-to-decent in the preseason and then looks like a guy who won a "QB FOR THE DAY" fan contest in the regular season. I get it -- it's the preseason, blah, blah, blah... but still, he was able to execute the basic fundamentals of throwing and completing a pass to a receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 5:05 PM, realtruelove said: Because he "earned it" My guess is McBeane already had Josh's backup on his radar and this game 1 audition was Peterman's last chance to prove he could play under "live" fire. They intended for Allen to start very early in the season when they traded McCarron. Watch them sign Paxton Lynch. I hope you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Peterman's already had his damn shot. That's what we gave up the chargers game for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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