Rigotz Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 It’s pretty obvious the Bills are gonna struggle badly this season. If we can get a nice pick for McCoy, this is pretty much a full rebuild and he’s only got 3-4 pro bowl years left, maximum. Reality seems to finally be setting in for Bills fans about this season. We need to trade him now, right? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 It’ll happen by the deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 No way the bills will retrieve a high pick for a 30 year old expensive RB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Since he had been here he has said and done all the right things(football related). He deserves to go to a contender and chase a title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I'm astonished at the lack of awareness and understanding of the salary cap and position value. RBs past the age of 28 have very little value in the trade market. When you add to the equation a high cap number it's even less. Also, the legal issues of this specific player and previously known character issues and you're stuck with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Maybe Pittsburgh will want him with Bell not playing and then leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 on one hand, you would never get value for him. on the other hand, a case could be made to trade everyone for anything you can get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Nah, just cut Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Not gonna get much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I wouldn’t mind entertaining offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said: I'm astonished at the lack of awareness and understanding of the salary cap and position value. RBs past the age of 28 have very little value in the trade market. When you add to the equation a high cap number it's even less. Also, the legal issues of this specific player and previously known character issues and you're stuck with him. They absolutely can trade him for a 4th,5th, 6th no problem, if it comes to that. By week 4, he will be demanding a trade out of here, so nobody will need to feel bad for him. Edited September 9, 2018 by Billznut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 To clarify, I did not say anywhere in my post that I would be expecting a third round pick or anything like that, so the crybabies can direct their sadness elsewhere. I’m just saying he has more value to contenders than he has for us. That’s when trades happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 If you can get a pick for him sure. What's a little more dead cap and a little less talent. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Billznut said: They absolutely can trade him for a 4th,5th, 6th no problem, if it comes to that. By week 4, he will demanding a trade out of here, so nobody will need to feel bad for him. You're delusional. If you could find a willing partner to accept the money owed (a big if) you're looking at a conditional 6th or 7th tops. In a position of much higher value, what did the Bills get for M. Darius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I agree with other posters i just dont think your going to get much for him due to age and contract. The Bills dont have much of any ammo to trade to get picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, Billznut said: It’ll happen by the deadline Not to wish injury upon some player, but hopefully a playoff team will lose a #1 RB to injury at some point. McCoy's price will then be at it's highest. Get 'er done Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 McCoy looks checked out. I'd try and get rid of him asap. Murphy was our best player today. He ran hard, and performed well on special teams. I'd rather give him a chance with Ivory spelling him, but we need to get something for McCoy if we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I was honestly wondering when they pulled him so early. I know the game was basically over, but he was the only player pulled until like the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Its one game guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 i think they will see what happens next week before thinking about moving some vets. Realistically could you even get a third for Shady. I am not saying he isn't a good player but he is costly and 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Shady was a non factor today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I’d try and trade him asap. Now is the time to. Get a mid round pick and be done with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, YodaMan79 said: I'm astonished at the lack of awareness and understanding of the salary cap and position value. RBs past the age of 28 have very little value in the trade market. When you add to the equation a high cap number it's even less. Also, the legal issues of this specific player and previously known character issues and you're stuck with him. Please clarify the legal issues and previously known character issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax09 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Yes, give the guy a chance to play with a contender. He came to Buffalo to watch his old team win a super bowl and contend for another one. At least get some draft capital because we’re going to need it. We are lacking major talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Maybe they can trade him to Oakland for AJ McCarron... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan11 said: No way the bills will retrieve a high pick for a 30 year old expensive RB I'm sure they'll take a 6th rounder for him when he dares to criticize McDermott or the FO, and all the McDermott/Beane cheerleaders will claim that Shady was an "underachiever" who "didn't want to be here". Watch it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, SoTier said: I'm sure they'll take a 6th rounder for him when he dares to criticize McDermott or the FO, and all the McDermott/Beane cheerleaders will claim that Shady was an "underachiever" who "didn't want to be here". Watch it happen. I think I would almost rather keep McCoy than trade him for a 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Get the guy some goddamn olineman and just hand it to him 35 times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Maybe Pittsburgh will want him with Bell not playing and then leaving. did you watch that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDude Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan11 said: No way the bills will retrieve a high pick for a 30 year old expensive RB Not to mention the Delicia stuff looming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Yes. If it’s for a 3rd, or OL, WR, or a 3rd or higher, yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 maybe they can get a fourth if a team is desperate but yea I'm on board for his sake and ours. They need to build for the future at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Maybe Pittsburgh will want him with Bell not playing and then leaving. His replacement Conner ran for over 100yds and 2tds. You may get mid to late round pick if a starter goes down with an injury and that team is a playoff contender. Edited September 9, 2018 by billieve420 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: Please clarify the legal issues and previously known character issues. Google is your friend. Living in Philadelphia it's well known he's a creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The question is whether or not Allen is the guy going forward. If he is, is a 4th round pick worth getting rid of a great safety blanket? I don't think it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 For the individuals with their heads in the sand, this is what the rest of the NFL front offices know about this guy: https://www.crossingbroad.com/2018/07/a-look-back-at-lesean-mccoys-off-field-issues.html He's always around some bad things going on. ****Newsflash for you eternal optimists, he's worth NOTHING on the trade market! I'm starting to question the football intelligence of the fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 No. Can't trade McCoy. YodaMan79 is correct. Shady has no value RIGHT NOW. Just hang on to him and let things play out. I've been through worse than this as a Bills fan. Much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said: For the individuals with their heads in the sand, this is what the rest of the NFL front offices know about this guy: https://www.crossingbroad.com/2018/07/a-look-back-at-lesean-mccoys-off-field-issues.html He's always around some bad things going on. ****Newsflash for you eternal optimists, he's worth NOTHING on the trade market! I'm starting to question the football intelligence of the fan base. Lol, “crossingbroad.com.” Why not just cite shadyisajerk.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Thought definitely crossed my mind today. He serves no purpose if the team is as bad as they looked today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: Lol, “crossingbroad.com.” Why not just cite shadyisajerk.com? Did you even read the summary? It's all stuff that's been documented by the Philadelphia Inquirer and other "legitimate" publications. Guy's a known cancer and a d!ck. Take off your blinders. How about this: http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/lesean-mccoy-buffalo-bills-allegations-philadelphia-eagles-marcus-hayes-20180711.html https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2016/02/list_of_lesean_mccoys_off-field_incidents_grows_amid_philadelphia_police_investi.html Do you see a pattern here? I wanted no part of him in a Bills uniform. Having contacts in the media, going back to his rookie season people have been cleaning up his messes for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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