26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Buffalo Bills QB Nathan Peterman will be 'human pinata' behind bad offensive line, says NFL analyst Bucky Brooks By Matt Parrino mparrino@nyup.com NFL network analyst Bucky Brooks thinks Buffalo Bills quarterback Nathan Peterman is in big trouble after being named the team's starting quarterback and edging out rookie first-round pick Josh Allen. "You're the human pinata. That's what (Peterman) is," Brooks said on his "Move The Sticks" podcast this week. "He's the human pinata. He's going to get beat to a pulp; They're gonna sacrifice him for four games before Josh Allen goes in. And man, those defenses. If he had a problem with the Chargers last year that first game. I'm not saying he'll throw five picks but it's gonna be tough." Brooks' co-host Daniel Jeremiah thinks the Bills will struggle to protect Peterman or Allen this season behind a poor offensive line. "Congratulations on winning the job. Your offensive line stinks and you get to play the Ravens, the Chargers, the Vikings and the Packers," Jeremiah said. "(Peterman has) played great in the preseason - I don't want to get that lost - (but) it's the preseason. When you look at their offensive line, it's not good up front. I don't know how they're going to be able to block these teams." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Bucky Brooks....one of the biggest busts in Bills history. Enough said. In all reality, it’s a fair take though I think the are forgetting that Peterman gets the ball out quick to negate the rush. Plus the Bills coaches have to know how bad the line is at pass blocking. Expect lots of game planning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, BuffaloRush said: Bucky Brooks....one of the biggest busts in Bills history. Enough said. In all reality, it’s a fair take though I think the are forgetting that Peterman gets the ball out quick to negate the rush. Plus the Bills coaches have to know how bad the line is at pass blocking. Expect lots of game planning Silly point to make. Enough said. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 His little world might get messed up on Sunday. I’m cheering for him though. !@#$ them up Nate. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Silly point to make. Enough said. Silly point? It’s 100% true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Silly point? It’s 100% true It's irrelevant to his capabilities as an NFL analyst and his opinion of the 2018 Bills. As a 2nd round pick, he's not even close to one of the biggest busts in Bills' history. Regardless, it's not germane to the discussion. Edited September 8, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I love Bucky and I think he’s right here unfortunately 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I'm sure this cheesecloth patchwork ragtag group of 3rd string mercenary offensive linemen mcbeane has gathered together will do just fine .. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Eric Wood told a story on OBL yesterday about how a few years ago they had a similar preseason with the offensive line. Everyone dumped on them and the narrative all around the league was about how bad the oline in Buffalo was. Then they went on to lead the league in rushing and gave up among the fewest sacks in the NFL. His point was that preseason can be very different from the regular season. We may have a bad oline or may not, but it has nothing to do with how they performed in the preseason. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I just hope he lasts through those first four games. I pray they don’t have to scrape him off the turf in the second quarter if the FIRST game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 That’s how I see it. He’s getting hung out to dry while we wait to build the line we need for our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Nathan better put on his fleet of foot shoes made from angel wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Buffalo Bills QB Nathan Peterman will be 'human pinata' behind bad offensive line, says NFL analyst Bucky Brooks By Matt Parrino mparrino@nyup.com NFL network analyst Bucky Brooks thinks Buffalo Bills quarterback Nathan Peterman is in big trouble after being named the team's starting quarterback and edging out rookie first-round pick Josh Allen. "You're the human pinata. That's what (Peterman) is," Brooks said on his "Move The Sticks" podcast this week. "He's the human pinata. He's going to get beat to a pulp; They're gonna sacrifice him for four games before Josh Allen goes in. And man, those defenses. If he had a problem with the Chargers last year that first game. I'm not saying he'll throw five picks but it's gonna be tough." Brooks' co-host Daniel Jeremiah thinks the Bills will struggle to protect Peterman or Allen this season behind a poor offensive line. "Congratulations on winning the job. Your offensive line stinks and you get to play the Ravens, the Chargers, the Vikings and the Packers," Jeremiah said. "(Peterman has) played great in the preseason - I don't want to get that lost - (but) it's the preseason. When you look at their offensive line, it's not good up front. I don't know how they're going to be able to block these teams." Ohhhh BOY! Peterman's in BIIIIGGGGG TROUBLE GUYS! What do we do, Bucky, WHAT DO WE DO?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, MJS said: Eric Wood told a story on OBL yesterday about how a few years ago they had a similar preseason with the offensive line. Everyone dumped on them and the narrative all around the league was about how bad the oline in Buffalo was. Then they went on to lead the league in rushing and gave up among the fewest sacks in the NFL. His point was that preseason can be very different from the regular season. We may have a bad oline or may not, but it has nothing to do with how they performed in the preseason. It certainly isn't based just on the preseason as many predicted the OL would struggle this season with the talent (or lack thereof) on hand after the offseason departures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 By tomorrow the world will know. I'm hoping the scheme can minimize the damage. With all the new bull **** rules we may pick up a few "roughing" penalties. I think we all hope for the best and plan for the worst. It will be interesting to see if any of the vet OL out there have been contacted. If Ducasse can hold up and Miller can minimize the penalties we may survive. I think Nate is better than what the experts give him credit for. Not top 15 but not bottom 5 either. He will be an upgrade over Tyrod. It will be interesting to see how TT does with all those weapons in CLE. TT. 16-31 211 yds 1TD 6 Rushes for 41. 2 sacks NP 21-28 284 2TDs 1 INT 2 rushes for 7 yds. 4 sacks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, MJS said: Eric Wood told a story on OBL yesterday about how a few years ago they had a similar preseason with the offensive line. Everyone dumped on them and the narrative all around the league was about how bad the oline in Buffalo was. Then they went on to lead the league in rushing and gave up among the fewest sacks in the NFL. His point was that preseason can be very different from the regular season. We may have a bad oline or may not, but it has nothing to do with how they performed in the preseason. Exactly. Logic says the line will be bad, but how often does football follow logic. Look at last year to see how predictably units play week-to-week. After the 3-game-dive in the middle of the season, there was no reason to think our line could block anyone or our defense had a clue how to tackle, then the following week in KC, they played well. Our line (as well as other teams' lines) has been deemed "terrible" many times in the past only to take the field and do just fine. The opposite is true as well. We'll get the first glimpse tomorrow. Hopefully, we'll all be pleasantly surprised, even if we have no reason to expect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Two tight ends and a full back all day... I see you, Greg Roman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, MJS said: Eric Wood told a story on OBL yesterday about how a few years ago they had a similar preseason with the offensive line. Everyone dumped on them and the narrative all around the league was about how bad the oline in Buffalo was. Then they went on to lead the league in rushing and gave up among the fewest sacks in the NFL. His point was that preseason can be very different from the regular season. We may have a bad oline or may not, but it has nothing to do with how they performed in the preseason. I remember this, they were brutal last preseason too. I’m interested to see how they play against Baltimore. Peterman gets the ball pit quick so I wouldn’t be surprised if the line held up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, MJS said: Eric Wood told a story on OBL yesterday about how a few years ago they had a similar preseason with the offensive line. Everyone dumped on them and the narrative all around the league was about how bad the oline in Buffalo was. Then they went on to lead the league in rushing and gave up among the fewest sacks in the NFL. His point was that preseason can be very different from the regular season. We may have a bad oline or may not, but it has nothing to do with how they performed in the preseason. It’s possible the Bengals did them a huge favor. It’s our only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Not every team has a great defense so there will be weeks we dominate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Augie said: I just hope he lasts through those first four games. I pray they don’t have to scrape him off the turf in the second quarter if the FIRST game. I hope the game plan is about 15 quick throws and only 3 strategically placed 25+ yard throws, and more than 30 run plays (end arounds, draws, quick counts, a whole lot of Shady hitting the hole in a hurry). Everything should be designed to frustrate the pass rush. We either win or lose 20-17. Nate will be fine as long as he doesn't have to throw more than 20xs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Breaking news everyone! What a scoop! Good I hope everyone running around blindfolded missing the pinata while it makes throws. Edited September 8, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 45 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Bucky Brooks....one of the biggest busts in Bills history. Enough said. In all reality, it’s a fair take though I think the are forgetting that Peterman gets the ball out quick to negate the rush. Plus the Bills coaches have to know how bad the line is at pass blocking. Expect lots of game planning Classic case of I don’t like him cause he talked bad about my team.. hes 100% correct wether people want to hear it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 The Bills did McCarron a favor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) I strongly dislike Bucky Brooks and his over the top hot takes he normally has. That said this take is a fair point and not anything different than you would read right here on this very site. The line has looked bad. I do think it will look better than it has, but until it does it's a major concern. Edited September 8, 2018 by No Place To Hyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 What about that terrible line in New England Houston will feast this weekend. Hoyer better be ready to play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Quick drops, quick throws. Delays, draws. Be interesting to see what Daboll draws up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, buffalobloodfloridahome said: What about that terrible line in New England Houston will feast this weekend. Hoyer better be ready to play. Oh no, Brady will not be able to do anything against that after almost two decades of shredding it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, row_33 said: Oh no, Brady will not be able to do anything against that after almost two decades of shredding it That's probably the most interesting game to watch tomorrow. Brady WR less sans Hogan, All new offensive line without Solder against a healthy Houston team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 51 minutes ago, MJS said: Eric Wood told a story on OBL yesterday about how a few years ago they had a similar preseason with the offensive line. Everyone dumped on them and the narrative all around the league was about how bad the oline in Buffalo was. Then they went on to lead the league in rushing and gave up among the fewest sacks in the NFL. His point was that preseason can be very different from the regular season. We may have a bad oline or may not, but it has nothing to do with how they performed in the preseason. While different positions , it’s funny that the preseason can’t be used to gauge Peterman’s ability but Can be used to do so for the O- line as a whole?( According to some of the finest minds TBD has to offer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB@Shooter Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Silly point to make. Enough said. Exactly, like the defense won't take away the short game. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Buffalo Bills QB Nathan Peterman will be 'human pinata' behind bad offensive line, says NFL analyst Bucky Brooks By Matt Parrino mparrino@nyup.com NFL network analyst Bucky Brooks thinks Buffalo Bills quarterback Nathan Peterman is in big trouble after being named the team's starting quarterback and edging out rookie first-round pick Josh Allen. "You're the human pinata. That's what (Peterman) is," Brooks said on his "Move The Sticks" podcast this week. "He's the human pinata. He's going to get beat to a pulp; They're gonna sacrifice him for four games before Josh Allen goes in. And man, those defenses. If he had a problem with the Chargers last year that first game. I'm not saying he'll throw five picks but it's gonna be tough." Brooks' co-host Daniel Jeremiah thinks the Bills will struggle to protect Peterman or Allen this season behind a poor offensive line. "Congratulations on winning the job. Your offensive line stinks and you get to play the Ravens, the Chargers, the Vikings and the Packers," Jeremiah said. "(Peterman has) played great in the preseason - I don't want to get that lost - (but) it's the preseason. When you look at their offensive line, it's not good up front. I don't know how they're going to be able to block these teams." Well, Bucky seems to be echoing a viewpoint that a number of folks here have expressed - to put Peterman out as a sacrifice behind our OL. In reality, I think folks need to look back at Peterman's performance in the Carolina game, 1st preseason game. I can't find one of those "every Peterman throw" mashups, but this Cover1 video has a pretty good assessment, I think. He points out how Peterman can be decisive with getting the ball out quickly, and that Daboll game-planned to that strength. I didn't seem to see the same game planning in Game 2 or 3. I think Daboll went vanilla. There was no chipping by backs or TE, there was little misdirection in the play design. I'm not saying the OL looked great against the Panthers, but Peterman was able to cope. It's worth keeping in mind that Carolina had a better defense than Cincy last year. We'll see. It really depends on a few things IMO: 1) can Benjamin and Clay stay healthy and make the catches when it counts? Benjamin looked great PS week 1. 2) will Zay Jones step up, or are we looking at "Butterfingers Part 2" 3) will both our starting Tackles stay healthy, because there's a huge talent drop off, I might say talent cliff, behind them? Especially Dawkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: It’s possible the Bengals did them a huge favor. It’s our only hope. The Browns' 1st team DL also made the OL look pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 will delicious candy scatter all over the field after each sack? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, Bucky seems to be echoing a viewpoint that a number of folks here have expressed - to put Peterman out as a sacrifice behind our OL. In reality, I think folks need to look back at Peterman's performance in the Carolina game, 1st preseason game. It's worth keeping in mind that Carolina had a better defense than Cincy last year when you do. I can't find one of those "every Peterman throw" mashups, but this Cover1 video has a pretty good assessment, I think. He points out how Peterman can be decisive with getting the ball out quickly, and that Daboll game-planned to that strength. I didn't seem to see the same game planning in Game 2 or 3. I think Daboll went vanilla. There was no chipping by backs or TE, there was little misdirection in the play design. I'm not saying the OL looked great against the Panthers, but Peterman was able to cope. We'll see. It really depends on a few things IMO: 1) can Benjamin and Clay stay healthy and make the catches when it counts? Benjamin looked great PS week 1. 2) will Zay Jones step up, or are we looking at "Butterfingers Part 2" 3) will both our starting Tackles stay healthy, because there's a huge talent drop off, I might say talent cliff, behind them? Especially Dawkins. The 1st preseason game was a picnic compared to what the Bengals and Browns brought regarding pressure with their respective 1st team DLs in games 2 and 3. McCarron and Allen were under siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, buffalobloodfloridahome said: What about that terrible line in New England Houston will feast this weekend. Hoyer better be ready to play. I would just love to believe that, unfortunately I've spent too many seasons thinking just that only to find out between Brady getting the ball out quickly, Geritol King Dante Scarnecchia's OL coaching and schemes, and the tub of entrails** BB keeps in which to immerse players who make mistakes, NE pulls out competent OL play every year. **NSFS (not safe for stomach) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I think we all have the same concerns. Peterman has a good pocket presence, accuracy, and quick release which will help. We have quality TEs, a hall of fame RB, and good blocking FB so Dabol needs to be creative and bring a little NE twist to the offense. I hope Castillo can coach up this OL to overachieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The 1st preseason game was a picnic compared to what the Bengals and Browns brought regarding pressure with their respective 1st team DLs in games 2 and 3. McCarron and Allen were under siege. Look again at Peterman's play in the 1st PS game. He was under tremendous pressure, but the ball was already gone before they got there. Cover1 points out the timing. My concern isn't the pressure, it's whether Peterman's improved ability to decode Ds and make the right call (aided by Daboll's pre-snap motion and misdirection plays) will keep him from his Achilles heel - misreading the D and throwing to the other team. We'll see. If having a little "sh** in our grits" from being dissed off inspires pro football OLmen as 'Cog indicated, the Bills OL should be highly inspired by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 We'll see. I dont trust anyone named Bucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, Bucky seems to be echoing a viewpoint that a number of folks here have expressed - to put Peterman out as a sacrifice behind our OL. In reality, I think folks need to look back at Peterman's performance in the Carolina game, 1st preseason game. I can't find one of those "every Peterman throw" mashups, but this Cover1 video has a pretty good assessment, I think. He points out how Peterman can be decisive with getting the ball out quickly, and that Daboll game-planned to that strength. I didn't seem to see the same game planning in Game 2 or 3. I think Daboll went vanilla. There was no chipping by backs or TE, there was little misdirection in the play design. I'm not saying the OL looked great against the Panthers, but Peterman was able to cope. It's worth keeping in mind that Carolina had a better defense than Cincy last year. We'll see. It really depends on a few things IMO: 1) can Benjamin and Clay stay healthy and make the catches when it counts? Benjamin looked great PS week 1. 2) will Zay Jones step up, or are we looking at "Butterfingers Part 2" 3) will both our starting Tackles stay healthy, because there's a huge talent drop off, I might say talent cliff, behind them? Especially Dawkins. One more addition, Will we commit to the run? This line showed much better run blocking in the PS and I think we have a better stable of backs this year. Edited September 8, 2018 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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