PlayoffsPlease Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unless Allen hands the ball off the Bengals 3 or 4 times tomorrow, he should be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 If he does poorly it means he has room to grow before taking the starting job. Once he starts he needs to stay in, the worst thing we could do is the start him, bench him yo-yo approach. So I'd rather know that he's not ready tomorrow as opposed to during the regular season. I also don't want him to start if he is going to be pressured on 95% of drop backs. We don't need to get him hurt, or turn him into Carr. I still remember Trent Edwards before he was murdered by the Cards, he was a real QB but after that he was Trentative. Don't need to risk Allen learning to play afraid, although he doesn't seem to be the type to become a fearful player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steptide said: I'm as excited as the next guy for Allen to win the starting job. I'm also a Peterman advocate, and am 100% comfortable with him starting if need be. If Allen fails tomorrow though, are we back at square one with McCarron, Peterman and Allen? I'd like to think no, but listening to media this week, there seems to be this narrative that it's Allen's job to lose and I'm not so sure. Nope not square 1 we are beyond square one but it does pretty much shut the door on Allen starting week 1 unless Peterman also stinks it up as well. If both stink it up maybe then we are back to square 1 Quote I spelled tomorrow wrong. Oops I guess this does not apply to spelling but its still funny Edited August 25, 2018 by ddaryl 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 You find out where Gale Gilbert is and just hope $12m/season will land him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 43 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I want him to look great to show up the other rookie QB's. OTOH I'm sorta hoping he falls on his face so the team starts Peterman for those first four brutal defenses. Ravens, Chargers, Vikings, Packers. Let Nate get his butt kicked so his fans will start to say time for something different or perhaps he'll play great and Allen can actually sit and learn this year. Either way, I don't want to see that #7 pick wasted by having him get shell-shocked behind that crappy Bills line. 2 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: If he does poorly it means he has room to grow before taking the starting job. Once he starts he needs to stay in, the worst thing we could do is the start him, bench him yo-yo approach. So I'd rather know that he's not ready tomorrow as opposed to during the regular season. I also don't want him to start if he is going to be pressured on 95% of drop backs. We don't need to get him hurt, or turn him into Carr. I still remember Trent Edwards before he was murdered by the Cards, he was a real QB but after that he was Trentative. Don't need to risk Allen learning to play afraid, although he doesn't seem to be the type to become a fearful player. The OL is an entirely different consideration. If Allen shows he's ready to assume the responsibilities of the starting QB, he'll be behind center when the Bills kickoff the season in Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, stevestojan said: You find out where Gale Gilbert is and just hope $12m/season will land him. ...maybe Gary Marangi or Losman will work for food....just sayin'............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 If he's bad, it's simple. Fire everyone and move the team to Antarctica. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Allen is bound to have a few stinkers, I know he has impressed a lot of people and turned many doubters into loyalists, but let's pump the brakes a little bit, we are very high on him, let's go into this season knowing there will be ups and downs. I only care if the trajectory is headed upward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, x-BillzeBubba said: They'll take him to the film room and play this over and over I quote Stuart al the time to my kids! Love the clip!! Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: I'm as excited as the next guy for Allen to win the starting job. I'm also a Peterman advocate, and am 100% comfortable with him starting if need be. If Allen fails tomorrow though, are we back at square one with McCarron, Peterman and Allen? I'd like to think no, but listening to media this week, there seems to be this narrative that it's Allen's job to lose and I'm not so sure. I spelled tomorrow wrong. Oops Alcohol sales in Buffalo will skyrocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 52 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: I want him to look great to show up the other rookie QB's. OTOH I'm sorta hoping he falls on his face so the team starts Peterman for those first four brutal defenses. Ravens, Chargers, Vikings, Packers. Let Nate get his butt kicked so his fans will start to say time for something different or perhaps he'll play great and Allen can actually sit and learn this year. Either way, I don't want to see that #7 pick wasted by having him get shell-shocked behind that crappy Bills line. Playing behind a suspect ( “ crappy”) O line is an adverse situation for a young QB. But can it make a QB play scared and shell shocked? I say no. It recalls that old Marv-ism about adversity not building character, but rather revealing it. Allen doesn’t strike me as a player that’s shook or plays with fear. The fact is we don’t know. We have these expectations of players, but really don’t know what’s inside that makes them tick. I’d suggest that if a potentially good player becomes “ ruined” because they had to play in less than perfect scenarios, they didn’t really have it from the start. It just took some adversity before the truth was revealed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 If Allen stinks tomorrow, then Peterman starts the season at QB and Allen goes back to developing and learning with no pressure, from the 3rd string position. Not rocket science. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYear'sTheOne Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Burn him at the stake..... What else would we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Are we talking 4 first half interceptions or 6? I was thinking more like 2 interceptions, 2 sacks and goes 8 of 20 for 55 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Get Fitz's agent on the phone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Schopp and Sal discussed this on Thursday or Friday. Consensus was that Allen may not seal the starting job with a strong performance, but he may very well convince the coaches NOT to start him in Baltimore with a bad one. Agreement was also reached that the game is important to the coaching staff in terms of their starting QB decision making process. I.E., performance in the game does matter. I would still like them to start Allen for Game 1 no matter what! The Bills have no future of any kind with the other 2 QBs. It's all about Allen for the next couple years, until he sinks or swims. So let's get on with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Logic said: If Allen stinks tomorrow, then Peterman starts the season at QB and Allen goes back to developing and learning with no pressure, from the 3rd string position. Not rocket science. What if Peterman stinks too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Don't worry...no one here will overreact 34 minutes ago, Logic said: If Allen stinks tomorrow, then Peterman starts the season at QB and Allen goes back to developing and learning with no pressure, from the 3rd string position. Not rocket science. goes from starter to 3rd string...doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, nucci said: Don't worry...no one here will overreact goes from starter to 3rd string...doubtful ...could we get a conditional 6th for him?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, klos63 said: What if Peterman stinks too? He plays safe now...the Chargers game scorched his brain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...could we get a conditional 6th for him?.... maybe but he will be labeled a bust so may just release him after the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) I’m happy with Allen’s progress. If he takes a step back it’s just proving what everyone already believed. Hes is a supremely talented guy that might need a little time to develop. With that said, if he performs well, I don’t see how he won’t start. Edited August 25, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, McNubbins said: If he's bad, it's simple. Fire everyone and move the team to Antarctica. McMurdo Fur Seals. Talk about home field advantage! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...could we get a conditional 6th for him?.... ...in 2022, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, nucci said: maybe but he will be labeled a bust so may just release him after the game ....not to worry....just sent the proof to my printer....should be back shortly.... Just now, Augie said: ...in 2022, maybe. 1 minute ago, Augie said: ...in 2022, maybe. ...I'll be dead....text me in "Hell's Kitchen" and lemme know......Verizon has a new tower there....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, klos63 said: What if Peterman stinks too? 11 minutes ago, nucci said: Don't worry...no one here will overreact goes from starter to 3rd string...doubtful He's only "starting" tonight as part of the regular QB rotation. The head coach himself said that he still considers all three QBs to be on equal footing and the competition is still ongoing. The fans may have written off AJ McCarron, but I don't believe the coaching staff has done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) If he is 11-20, for a td, no picks and 120 yards, without making any glaring mistakes then I am perfectly fine with that. in other words he doesn't have to blow the doors off for me to keep thinking of him as the starter. Edited August 25, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: If he is 11-20, for a td, no picks and 120 yards, without making any glaring mistakes then I am perfectly fine with that. in other words he doesn't have to blow the doors off for me to keep thinking of him as the starter. ...know it well...LOL....deja vu circa 2017, right?.....when your passing game is LESS impotent than OTAG, forfeit....I did............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob&Doug Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Steptide said: I'm as excited as the next guy for Allen to win the starting job. I'm also a Peterman advocate, and am 100% comfortable with him starting if need be. If Allen fails tomorrow though, are we back at square one with McCarron, Peterman and Allen? I'd like to think no, but listening to media this week, there seems to be this narrative that it's Allen's job to lose and I'm not so sure. I spelled tomorrow wrong. Oops What if we don't post stupid **** on this forum ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Logic said: He's only "starting" tonight as part of the regular QB rotation. The head coach himself said that he still considers all three QBs to be on equal footing and the competition is still ongoing. The fans may have written off AJ McCarron, but I don't believe the coaching staff has done the same. Right. He’s only starting tonight because of the rotation he’s earned. Youd better believe if his play wasn’t impressing them he wouldn’t be getting this opportunity. Edited August 25, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob&Doug Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Best GIF Ever......... Edited August 25, 2018 by Bob&Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Those gifs kill me every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 No need for such a negative Nancy thread. HE WILL DO WELL OVERALL. And if he makes a mistake, he will learn from that. Remember he has barely had a week of first team reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Steptide said: I'm as excited as the next guy for Allen to win the starting job. I'm also a Peterman advocate, and am 100% comfortable with him starting if need be. If Allen fails tomorrow though, are we back at square one with McCarron, Peterman and Allen? I'd like to think no, but listening to media this week, there seems to be this narrative that it's Allen's job to lose and I'm not so sure. I spelled tomorrow wrong. Oops You're 100% comfortable with Peterman as a starter? Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It depends on how bad. If Allen looks like a rookie (a bad decision that leads to a turn over and some bad missed throws) but still shows flashes of improved footwork I will still have confidence in him. But if Allen looks horrendous then I think you have to reconsider starting him. I think that even if he is bad he won't look bad enough to consider benching him for Peterman who sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Trade for Fitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) I've been an advocate for Peterman. As many pointed out he has shown well in preseason before. I don't disagree about his flaws. I like his potential a little more than other people. I think Peterman at least recognized that throwing to Kelvin Benjamin is money before Tyrod. Josh Allen is making some noise. I've preached caution with him. I wasn't in favor of him starting right away. He really himself has changed my mind with some of his work. I can't deny the potential. I'm ok with Josh Allen not being perfect tomorrow. I just would like to see established rythm. If it is absolutely clear Josh Allen isn't able to maintain tomorrow I will have to be in favor of giving Peterman the nod. I think any QB is starting for the Bills is going to have to react very quickly a lot of times. I hope daboll is a wizard. I like Peterman but Josh Allen is the favorite for a reason. Seeing him progressing has been a treat. I would be surprised if he doesn't make some plays tomorrow. I'm in favor of Peterman getting the start this season but the story would end better if Josh Allen is the winner. Edited August 25, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 The forecast has changed for tomorrow afternoon...the heavy showers and 20 plus mph winds will be out of here by mid afternoon. The weather won't be a factor as was first thought. Fire Away,Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I think this is the perfect set up for everyone. McBeane are in a win win. Allen goes out and kills it on Sunday then it's a no brainier . He has a crap game and they can say we wanted to give him valuable experience blah blah blah and they can start one of the vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, BeefCurtns said: I think this is the perfect set up for everyone. McBeane are in a win win. Allen goes out and kills it on Sunday then it's a no brainier . He has a crap game and they can say we wanted to give him valuable experience blah blah blah and they can start one of the vets. Accurate as well as succinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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