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1 minute ago, Commonsense said:

I find that being a stretch. Not only was he the home owner but the cousin/friend or whatever she was couldn’t want to fry Shady. You suppose she was quiet in front of the police and withholding his name or blabbering about every wrong thing the guy ever did? 

 

More information will soon be out but I’d be surprised if the first time McCoy heard of the incident was after the Instagram post. 

 

Which may be why he didn't contact her directly, which her lawyer is using against him.

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Just now, Commonsense said:

It’s crazy that’s why applying logic doesn’t work here. Think like a stooopid petty man and a crazy scorned woman, then you have a better chance.

 

Reading a lot of posts in this thread, that isnt an impossible leap for many posters here.

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1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

Right when he woke up?  When were the police called?  When did the investigation start?  When did the police figure out he was the homeowner?  (Yes, THAT was probably pretty quick.)  If they thought him a suspect, would they even consider notifying him quickly?

 

It could very well be the Instagram post was the first he heard of it.  Or not...but what you don't know, you simply don't know.

If you listened to the emergency call she also dispatched the police. That was at 3:18 or so.

 

We don’t know but the timeline and resulting actions are strange for both sides not just for the plastic playmate.

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9 minutes ago, Engelwood said:

The act of kneeling was easy, yes. Bucking the entire system of standing for the national anthem, dealing with the feedback, and bringing an issue to light that is effecting the North America as a whole was not.

 

TBH not many people actually know the issue Kaep did it for.

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5 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

 

And the thing that I just can't wrap my brain around is 5/28-6/1.  I just can't wrap my brain around it.  You talk marriage on 5/28 but then your people show up to move her stuff out 3 days later?  WHAT??  The same day you said you'd meet her at her sister's graduation.  High level drama and soap opera are just not adequate descriptors for the way this appears.

 

No, she claims he talked about marriage on 5/28.

 

Claims are not facts.  They're just claims.

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1 minute ago, Commonsense said:

If you listened to the emergency call she also dispatched the police. That was at 3:18 or so.

 

We don’t know but the timeline and resulting actions are strange for both sides not just for the plastic playmate.

 

A lot of this is strange.  Like I said, whatever the truth is, there'll be a lot of weird coincidences left over unexplained.

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2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

A lot of this is strange.  Like I said, whatever the truth is, there'll be a lot of weird coincidences left over unexplained.

Plus the all important question ... what does King Roger do, if anything.  The big-ben incident has set a precedent. 

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2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No, she claims he talked about marriage on 5/28.

 

Claims are not facts.  They're just claims.

 

OK well 5/28 is when he gave her the "substantial gift" whatever it was.  That's not a claim, that's a court documented fact.  

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So is she like a professional, -get with athletes- type of woman?  Is that how she lives the lavish lifestyle she portrays on Instagram?    Don't get me wrong, no woman should be roughed up under any circumstances.   

 

But, if a woman ended a relationship and asked the ex-boyfriend to leave her house,  wouldn't he HAVE to leave?   I just have no clue how this squatter stuff works.

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2 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

 

OK well 5/28 is when he gave her the "substantial gift" whatever it was.  That's not a claim, that's a court documented fact.  

 

No.  No.   No!    A motion filed by the chick's attorney is not a court documented fact.   

 

It's just sad how bits and pieces of this story keep getting ground up and reconfigured by folks who don't know the difference between allegation and fact...

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6 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

 

OK well 5/28 is when he gave her the "substantial gift" whatever it was.  That's not a claim, that's a court documented fact.  

 

 

5/28 was when he allegedly gave her the alleged gift, which can be refuted in a response.

 

If the court document claim was not refuted..well, OK, then it is fact.

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3 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

No.  No.   No!    A motion filed by the chick's attorney is not a court documented fact.   

 

It's just sad how bits and pieces of this story keep getting ground up and reconfigured by folks who don't know the difference between allegation and fact...

 

Ok I'll agree but that's how it's being reported.https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/7/11/17559396/allegations-buffalo-bills-running-back-lesean-mccoy-domestic-violence-beating-burglary

 

How else is a person supposed to read what happened on 5/28 according to that and what other sites are posting?  It doesn't read as an allegation.  It reads as a fact.  Maybe shoddy reporting, I dunno.

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3 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

No.  No.   No!    A motion filed by the chick's attorney is not a court documented fact.   

 

It's just sad how bits and pieces of this story keep getting ground up and reconfigured by folks who don't know the difference between allegation and fact...

 

The media already has LeSean in front of the firing squad. 

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1 minute ago, NewEraBills said:

 

Ok I'll agree but that's how it's being reported.https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/7/11/17559396/allegations-buffalo-bills-running-back-lesean-mccoy-domestic-violence-beating-burglary

 

How else is a person supposed to read what happened on 5/28 according to that and what other sites are posting?

 

 

I hear ya, New Era, but that is part of the damn problem.  These thing are being just plain slid in as facts by the press or the twitterverse.

 

I don't know what Shady did, but I know it is not right the way some of this is being reported or talked about.

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11 hours ago, Boca BIlls said:

TBH not many people actually know the issue Kaep did it for.

I disagree. Lots of people familiar with the situation know what it was about. It’s no great secret. Many just don’t agree with him on the magnitude of the “ problem” or its root causes. It is far more nuanced than just saying “ those who disagree simply don’t know”.

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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

The media already has LeSean in front of the firing squad. 

 

Welcome to the #metoo era.  Guilty until proven innocent because you "have to believe the victim!"

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5 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

 

Ok I'll agree but that's how it's being reported.https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/7/11/17559396/allegations-buffalo-bills-running-back-lesean-mccoy-domestic-violence-beating-burglary

 

How else is a person supposed to read what happened on 5/28 according to that and what other sites are posting?  It doesn't read as an allegation.  It reads as a fact.  Maybe shoddy reporting, I dunno.

"According to court documents" - the court documents are her attorney's statement only.

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1 minute ago, NewEraBills said:

How else is a person supposed to read what happened on 5/28 according to that and what other sites are posting?

 

They have to understand that they're hearing only one side, with no response from the other and no determination of fact by a (hopefully) objective third party in the justice system.  

 

You can claim anything.   Until they can be proved, allegations remain merely assertions.[1]

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2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I disagree. Lots of people familiar with the situation know what it was about. It’s no great secret. Many just don’t agree with him on the magnitude of the “ problem” or its root causes. It far more nuanced than just saying “ those who diasgree simply don’t know”.

 

Exactly. I know what hes protesting,  i dont think he’s doing it the right way

 

ill leave it at that 

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15 minutes ago, NewEraBills said:

 

OK well 5/28 is when he gave her the "substantial gift" whatever it was.  That's not a claim, that's a court documented fact.  

 

It's stated in a motion filed by her attorney.  That is not "court documented fact," it's a claim.

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52 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

I have no idea whether any of this stuff is true or false.  

 

I don't see the point of that tweet.  Is he accusing her of making it all up?  Is he saying she has bad taste wrt men?  Is he saying she has bad luck?  Is he saying she somehow deserves it?

 

It seems to me he is just throwing something out there into the breeze because......Twitter.

 

I have no idea who TJ Carpenter might be.......and I hope I never find out.

but dude, he has the BLUE CHECKMARK next to his name!!!

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2 minutes ago, LeviF91 said:

 

Welcome to the #metoo era.  Guilty until proven innocent because you "have to believe the victim!"

You may hurt their feelings if you don’t believe them. Everyone has the basic right to go through life without having their feelings hurt, you know. 

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Just now, I'm Spartacus said:

 

Maybe McCoy was in Florida getting advice from OJ, and not working out with Frank Gore?

 

"Your Honor, I'm innocent of all charges.  I present, as character witnesses Ritchie Incognito and OJ Simpson."

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I'm being serious here...and I don't know what happened and Shady may or may not be guilty of something and this woman may or may not be guilty of something and I am sorry she sustained injuries that may not be her doing.

 

That said, how crazy and scary is it that you can't get someone out of your house for going on a year?

 

I can't even imagine asking someone to leave and they just. plain. won't. leave.

 

Who wants that caustic environment?

 

Who leaves their house every morning keeping one eye on the internet to make sure you aren't getting kicked out of a house you don't own because the owner doesn't want you to live there anymore?

 

I don't know what happened, but what doesn't seem to be in dispute is that he wanted her gone...how does it get to this?!

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1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I'm being serious here...and I don't know what happened and Shady may or may not be guilty of something and this woman may or may not be guilty of something and I am sorry she sustained injuries that may not be her doing.

 

That said, how crazy and scary is it that you can't get someone out of your house for going on a year?

 

I can't even imagine asking someone to leave and they just. plain. won't. leave.

 

Who wants that caustic environment?

 

Who leaves their house every morning keeping one eye on the internet to make sure you aren't getting kicked out of a house you don't own because the owner doesn't want you to live there anymore?

 

I don't know what happened, but what doesn't seem to be in dispute is that he wanted her gone...how does it get to this?!

Unstable “ side chick”type who thinks she is owed something. That’s about it.

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2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I'm being serious here...and I don't know what happened and Shady may or may not be guilty of something and this woman may or may not be guilty of something and I am sorry she sustained injuries that may not be her doing.

 

That said, how crazy and scary is it that you can't get someone out of your house for going on a year?

 

I can't even imagine asking someone to leave and they just. plain. don't. leave.

 

Who wants that caustic environment?

 

Who leaves their house every morning keeping one eye on the internet to make sure you aren't getting kicked out of a house you don't own because the owner doesn't want you to live there anymore?

 

I don't know what happened, but what doesn't seem to be in dispute is that he wanted her gone...how does it get to this?!

 

Because home owners lose rights when they let someone move in ?

 

he should be able to give her the boot!

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3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I'm being serious here...and I don't know what happened and Shady may or may not be guilty of something and this woman may or may not be guilty of something and I am sorry she sustained injuries that may not be her doing.

 

That said, how crazy and scary is it that you can't get someone out of your house for going on a year?

 

I can't even imagine asking someone to leave and they just. plain. won't. leave.

 

Who wants that caustic environment?

 

Who leaves their house every morning keeping one eye on the internet to make sure you aren't getting kicked out of a house you don't own because the owner doesn't want you to live there anymore?

 

I don't know what happened, but what doesn't seem to be in dispute is that he wanted her gone...how does it get to this?!

 

Crazy is just crazy.  

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Just now, Buffalo716 said:

 

Because home owners lose rights when they let someone move in ?

 

he should be able to give her the boot!

Wrong. He didn’t go through with the eviction process. At one point they had a mutual agreement, then they got back together and scrapped it. He just recently had his friend file the eviction and served it to her 16 y/o son. Now her and the lawyer are delaying. 

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1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Because home owners lose rights when they let someone move in ?

 

he should be able to give her the boot!

 

I remember a situation like this happened to someone in Los Angeles when I lived there.  I thought it was a nightmare when he told me that it took 3 months for the eviction to be complete for a resident who refused to leave.  He lost out on 3 months of rent and LA is expensive....he really needed that money.

 

3 months is a lot less of a headache than 12!

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2 minutes ago, Commonsense said:

Wrong. He didn’t go through with the eviction process. At one point they had a mutual agreement, then they got back together and scrapped it. He just recently had his friend file the eviction and served it to her 16 y/o son. Now her and the lawyer are delaying. 

 

Ive been reading that he served her last July...

its been 1 year

 

he had the electricity cut because she is pretty much squatting 

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