3rdand12 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Estelle Getty said: 50/50 we sign him. Mostly because of his versatility. how does someone come up with a random percentage of probability ? Are you in Marketing ? ☺️ we have no idea how McBeane feels about this guy, or their budget. Sweet set of linebackers though almost immediately. On Paper Edited May 23, 2018 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Ok well when he signs with the giants or the Steelers I’ll be disappointed and then I’ll come by to say kiss my ass There's 32 teams in the NFL, so obviously the odds are far greater that he signs elsewhere than that he signs here. Saying he won't and ending up right doesn't make you some type of soothsayer. There are some fans, namely myself, that have been interested in trading for this player for over a year, even before it was reported that he was on the block last offseason. That alone makes his release relevant information and worth discussing. The "he's not coming here and I have no data to back it up other than there's 31 other teams" take is about as lazy and useless as they get, and frankly most of us expect more out of our fellow fans. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Something like this could work: 5 year contract 38 million dollar contract. 1st & 2nd year guaranteed. 8 million signing bonus 2 million 2018, 6 mil 2020, 7 mil 2021, 7.5 mil 2022, 8.5 mil 2023. I am close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: I don't think we are going to sign him either. It's possible but not very likely. We do have the money and the need. We don't know if Beane and McD want him at his price or he wants the Bills at his price. Probably not. Ok so we agree. Edited May 23, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan inappropriate language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, qwksilver said: Something like this could work: 5 year contract 38 million dollar contract. 1st & 2nd year guaranteed. 8 million signing bonus 2 million 2018, 6 mil 2020, 7 mil 2021, 7.5 mil 2022, 8.5 mil 2023. I am close? He had two years left on his deal in Philly at over Seven million per. Any team could have traded for that and none did. I think he won't get as high a figure as people are assuming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: There's 32 teams in the NFL, so obviously the odds are far greater that he signs elsewhere than that he signs here. Saying he won't and ending up right doesn't make you some type of soothsayer. There are some fans, namely myself, that have been interested in trading for this player for over a year, even before it was reported that he was on the block last offseason. That alone makes his release relevant information and worth discussing. The "he's not coming here and I have no data to back it up other than there's 31 other teams" take is about as lazy and useless as they get, and frankly most of us expect more out of our fellow fans. Lol. “Most of us expect more out of our fellow fans”. You’ve got to be shitting me with this one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I like his play and versatility but we can't sign him before signing more quality OL and WR help. The offense is in desperate need of playmakers and trench players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, NewEraBills said: I like his play and versatility but we can't sign him before signing more quality OL and WR help. The offense is in desperate need of playmakers and trench players. Of course they can and should if possible. What OL or WR is on the market that rivals Kendricks' talent level? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I doubt we get him. Our desperation at starting LB isn't high. He'll get similar offers that we would make elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Of course they can and should if possible. What OL or WR is on the market that rivals Kendricks' talent level? I agree actually, it just makes the offense look neglected. I know we'll sign offensive players before it is all said and done. Just an immediate reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Of course they can and should if possible. What OL or WR is on the market that rivals Kendricks' talent level? You sign quality players when you can. Today it's LB and its a position of need. Hopefully Beane kick's the tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 While I would love it if the Bills signed Kendricks, I do not believe they will do so for the simple reason that they don't value a two-down SAM linebacker very highly. I expect he will get higher offers elsewhere or, at the very least, a better opportunity. Here, he'd play in the base defense only, and would come off the field on third downs. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Lol. “Most of us expect more out of our fellow fans”. You’ve got to be shitting me with this one..... Nope. I legitimately expect an opinion that includes a scintilla of reason from someone that can sit up and type at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Ok well when he signs with the giants or the Steelers I’ll be disappointed and then I’ll come by to say kiss my ass 17 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Lol. “Most of us expect more out of our fellow fans”. You’ve got to be shitting me with this one..... The reason that you were challenged is because you said that the Bills didn’t have the money to do it. That was immediately proven false. You could have just walked away instead you doubled and tripled down. No one thinks that it is “likely.” There are 31 teams that he can go to after leaving Philly. The Bills have need, money and a coach that has had success with his skill set. It’s reasonable to think that they will be interested. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, purple haze said: He had two years left on his deal in Philly at over Seven million per. Any team could have traded for that and none did. I think he won't get as high a figure as people are assuming. This late in the off season may lower his price tag. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Nope. I legitimately expect an opinion that includes a scintilla of reason from someone that can sit up and type at the same time. Ok buddy. I’ll try harder next time. Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: I like his play and versatility but we can't sign him before signing more quality OL and WR help. The offense is in desperate need of playmakers and trench players. There really isn't a lot out there in offensive help. There might be more as camps roll along and cuts happen, but you never know. Sign Kendricks, get that defense as formidable as possible and they'll keep us in and win some games for us. Edited May 23, 2018 by TheBeane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, TheBeane said: There really isn't a lot out there in offensive help. There might be more as camps roll along and cuts happen, but you never know. Sign Kendricks, get that defense as formidable as possible and they'll keep us in and win some games for us. Yep. A great defense versus just a good defense, helps an average offense a lot. Turnovers, field position all game, actual points, time, more drives, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, Logic said: While I would love it if the Bills signed Kendricks, I do not believe they will do so for the simple reason that they don't value a two-down SAM linebacker very highly. I expect he will get higher offers elsewhere or, at the very least, a better opportunity. Here, he'd play in the base defense only, and would come off the field on third downs. We shall see. Why do you assume he’d be the 3rd lb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 According to spotac we are paying Humber about 1 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheBeane said: There really isn't a lot out there in offensive help. There might be more as camps roll along and cuts happen, but you never know. Sign Kendricks, get that defense as formidable as possible and they'll keep us in and win some games for us. There is nothing out there now, but this time yesterday Kendricks wasn't available either... I think there will be a couple of solid WR's that shake loose from somewhere that they can go after between now and say August.... Solid OL help I think is less likely to come on the market which is unfortunate because its the bigger need... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: There is nothing out there now, but this time yesterday Kendricks wasn't available either... I think there will be a couple of solid WR's that shake loose from somewhere that they can go after between now and say August.... Solid OL help I think is less likely to come on the market which is unfortunate because its the bigger need... I think that I’m of the belief that WR is a bigger need than OL (although both are needs). I just happen to think that some of the young OL (specifically Miller and Groy) are a little better than people think. If Teller and McDermott can play they will have decent competition and depth there. The WR position is all question marks. There are health issues, speed concerns and an inexperienced group. There isn’t much to feel good about at this point. Edited May 23, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Why do you assume he’d be the 3rd lb? Tremaine Edmunds will be the starting MIKE and I think they like Milano continuing as the WILL. I think the staff is high on Matt Milano and not eager to send him to the bench. The biggest hole in our defense, therefore, is at SAM, where only Lorenzo Alexander currently resides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If I'm him I'm taking less money to go to the Rams and play behind Suh and Donald. He will make a million tackles, great fit with Wade and he's a West Coast guy. I could see the Steelers, maybe the Vikings to play with his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: how does someone come up with a random percentage of probability ? Are you in Marketing ? ☺️ we have no idea how McBeane feels about this guy, or their budget. Sweet set of linebackers though almost immediately. On Paper 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Logic said: Tremaine Edmunds will be the starting MIKE and I think they like Milano continuing as the WILL. I think the staff is high on Matt Milano and not eager to send him to the bench. The biggest hole in our defense, therefore, is at SAM, where only Lorenzo Alexander currently resides. I suspect that he’s a 3 down guy and Milano/Zo share package duties. I’m not an expert on him but it seems he’s a better 3 down player and allows them to bring the young guy along with favorable situations still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 4 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: He just got one That’s kind of my point. He went from the best team in the league. I bet he had a wonderful time winning. If I’m him, I’m signing a 1 year deal with another contender if someone isn’t willing to pay top dollar. As much as we love our city, not everyone sees Buffalo as a desirable destination, but top dollar makes us look a lot better. If we somehow get him, I’d bet top dollar that it’s over 6.5 mill a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Why haven’t we signed him yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, NewEraBills said: I like his play and versatility but we can't sign him before signing more quality OL and WR help. The offense is in desperate need of playmakers and trench players. There's nobody available, Sherlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, NewEraBills said: I like his play and versatility but we can't sign him before signing more quality OL and WR help. The offense is in desperate need of playmakers and trench players. Not alot of quality on the market in late May. Barring trades or June 1st cuts what you see at Wr and Oline is probably what you get. Kendricks would be an immediate upgrade at OLB. Alexander, and Humber are old. Edmunds, Malano, and Vellajo are young. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Might be kinda tough to get that price at this juncture. Backload the contract...the numbers will add up in the end.Buy him now and pay well next year when we have the bank to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Kendricks Edmunds Milano...with our Secondary we would probably be the best pass Defense in football tomorrow and the best overall defense by week 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Zac said: i've definitely heard of him I think that's how a lot of people gauge whether a FA is worth signing haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jeetz1231 said: I think that's how a lot of people gauge whether a FA is worth signing haha Come on. Give people more credit. They also use Madden ratings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, MJS said: Come on. Give people more credit. They also use Madden ratings. And they use Madden as a basis for possible trades, if it works in Madden it should work in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sign em !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, MJS said: There's nobody available, Sherlock. Duhhhh, if you read my response in like two post later you'll see I acknowledged that and was giving more of a reaction than anything. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 16 hours ago, SWATeam said: This is a good point. Has to be a reason. Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Just now, nucci said: Money That's pretty much it. He is considered a luxury player in Schwartz's defense. Schwartz has remained adamant about keeping 4 on the D-line and almost never blitzing. As a result, he runs the nickel A LOT and has a pair of very good linebackers in Bradham on the weakside and Hicks in the middle. They saved $6 million in cap space for cutting him, and have been trying to deal him for years. He's considered a very nice contributor, but for $7.6 M...that's pretty high if you aren't starting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: That's pretty much it. He is considered a luxury player in Schwartz's defense. Schwartz has remained adamant about keeping 4 on the D-line and almost never blitzing. As a result, he runs the nickel A LOT and has a pair of very good linebackers in Bradham on the weakside and Hicks in the middle. They saved $6 million in cap space for cutting him, and have been trying to deal him for years. He's considered a very nice contributor, but for $7.6 M...that's pretty high if you aren't starting. This describes us as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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