MTBill Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) After Anquan left the Bills last season to work on social justice issues, he worked to create the "Players Coalition" with Malcolm Jenkins. The NFL and this group have agreed to create a partnership with $90M in funding. I believe this is a great step to hopefully end the controversial anthem kneeling while also giving the players a voice on social issues - which may or may not be limited to a few interests. Perhaps another method would be something similar to the "pink" month for breast cancer. Where the players wear some sort of identifier to show their support for social issues. Good move by the NFL, and Anquan did accomplish something after saying he wanted to, so good on him, even if he was a jerk for asking to be "unretired". UPDATE ---------------------------------------------------- Today the NFL also released a new policy instructing all players on the field must stand for the anthem and presentation of colors - if they do not, the team will be fined. Players may stay in the locker room during the anthem if they wish. I personally hope that these two measures create a social justice discussion as it's own entity and leave the game to being about the game. I do not feel this has had a horrible impact on ratings as has been pointed to, but I guess if this gambit works, we'll know. I think the real reason for declining ratings is Millennials do not care as much for televised sports. Edited May 23, 2018 by MTBill Added info on NFL Policy released today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 What is the 90 million dollars for? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 God I hope so. Tired of listening to the whine bags from all sides ( yes people like me too ). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Nice way of looking at it ! The way I see it is the owners where losing $hit lot of money , and had to figure out a way for this to go away , $90 milion to settle was not a bad deal ( for the owners) , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: What is the 90 million dollars for? A bribe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, Rocky Landing said: A bribe? I know why they say they were taking a knee, just not sure how they plan to use 90 million dollars to fix the perception of the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Putin said: Nice way of looking at it ! The way I see it is the owners where losing $hit lot of money , and had to figure out a way for this to go away , $90 milion to settle was not a bad deal ( for the owners) , NFL dominated TV ratings last year. No major corporation likes negative press. NFL did what they all do to make it go away, throw money at it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: A bribe? Shhhh ? !!! Part of it was to make sure C K goes away , stays away , and is forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: NFL dominated TV ratings last year. No major corporation likes negative press. NFL did what they all do to make it go away, throw money at it. TV ratings were way down for Sunday, Monday night and Thursday night games. If the trend continued it would mean a surefire end to the league. Owners knew it, even though players seemed too stupid to know they were potentially killing their own golden calf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I know why they say they were taking a knee, just not sure how they plan to use 90 million dollars to fix the perception of the problem. My guess is that it would be something along the lines of Colin Kaepernick's million dollar pledge where he donated $100,000 per month to various organizations fighting social justice issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 45 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I know why they say they were taking a knee, just not sure how they plan to use 90 million dollars to fix the perception of the problem. That's a very good question, now, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: I know why they say they were taking a knee, just not sure how they plan to use 90 million dollars to fix the perception of the problem. How does any non-profit coalition use their funding? I don't know, I'm asking -- but I'd assume it is in marketing, outreach, awareness programs, etc. Everything costs $$. It would be nice to see athletes who were kneeling be some of the guys who are going out and speaking to groups (without being paid) about the social issues they wanted to raise awareness of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, eball said: How does any non-profit coalition use their funding? I don't know, I'm asking -- but I'd assume it is in marketing, outreach, awareness programs, etc. Everything costs $$. It would be nice to see athletes who were kneeling be some of the guys who are going out and speaking to groups (without being paid) about the social issues they wanted to raise awareness of. I think McDermott said something to that effect to his players, if they wanted to take a knee last year he supported them but they needed to get out in the community and actually start a conversation, actually do something tangible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, eball said: How does any non-profit coalition use their funding? I don't know, I'm asking -- but I'd assume it is in marketing, outreach, awareness programs, etc. Everything costs $$. It would be nice to see athletes who were kneeling be some of the guys who are going out and speaking to groups (without being paid) about the social issues they wanted to raise awareness of. Kaepernick certainly put his money where his mouth is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said: TV ratings were way down for Sunday, Monday night and Thursday night games. If the trend continued it would mean a surefire end to the league. Owners knew it, even though players seemed too stupid to know they were potentially killing their own golden calf. Haha, the nfl is still king. NASCAR ratings went down this year too. Must be all their protestors. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I thought that South Park episode was right on the money. If you can just Stand, sit or kneel for your national anthem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha, the nfl is still king. NASCAR ratings went down this year too. Must be all their protestors. I know right? Telecoms are losing millions over millions of subscribers monthly so it must be all the protestors. Maybe if telecoms werent charging an arm and a leg for an outdated service they wouldn’t be having viewership issues. Sunday ticket doubled last year. That definitely had something to do with it. And to watch sports for free over a season for the cost of a few beers is more cost effective than paying 150/month for cable and 300 for Sunday ticket. Pro leagues need a new pig to bleed, and “ending” the protests won’t solve ****. What will be the new bobayaga when ratings dip again? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Putin said: Shhhh ? !!! Part of it was to make sure C K goes away , stays away , and is forgotten Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said: TV ratings were way down for Sunday, Monday night and Thursday night games. If the trend continued it would mean a surefire end to the league. Owners knew it, even though players seemed too stupid to know they were potentially killing their own golden calf. NFL is king. Nothing will change it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, H2o said: There was a time when Jay Cutler was a very successful QB, he has the physical traits of our own rookie QB. I think if you put Jay Cutler as QB of the Eagles that they easily make the playoffs this year. He is a locker room asshat but I think he could still be a good QB in the right situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, eball said: It would be nice to see athletes who were kneeling be some of the guys who are going out and speaking to groups (without being paid) about the social issues they wanted to raise awareness of. I've been saying this since this BS started. How many Bills visit the East Side of Buffalo on a regular basis, meet with community leaders, and attempt to make a difference in regards to social injustices, police brutality, etc...(and I'm not talking about going to some grade school and reading books to 6 year olds). My guess is most of them couldn't find the East Side of Buffalo even if you gave them a map. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: There was a time when Jay Cutler was a very successful QB, he has the physical traits of our own rookie QB. I think if you put Jay Cutler as QB of the Eagles that they easily make the playoffs this year. He is a locker room asshat but I think he could still be a good QB in the right situation. This is a thread about ending anthem protests, right? I chose the "Don't Care" Jay Cutler meme to express my feelings on the situation. You have taken this onto next level, random tangent, semi Allen bashing, Cutler endorsement area. Funny, but somehow a wtf moment at the same time. Carry on my friend, carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, MTBill said: Perhaps another method would be something similar to the "pink" month for breast cancer. Where the players wear some sort of identifier to show their support for social issues. Problem with this is that it's very hard to specify the social issues into a synthesized idea that the month is meant to combat. We're talking about pretty controversial and multi-faceted things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Haha, what an awful idea that would cause more headaches for them. Football is the best sport in the world but the nfl might be the dumbest league next to the NHL. So clueless. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Now wait a minute! They were protesting the Anthem?? Why? Didn’t they like the beat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha, what an awful idea that would cause more headaches for them. Football is the best sport in the world but the nfl might be the dumbest league next to the NHL. So clueless. Can't see this being an effective or sensible remedy with a penalty being assessed before the game even starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: I've been saying this since this BS started. How many Bills visit the East Side of Buffalo on a regular basis, meet with community leaders, and attempt to make a difference in regards to social injustices, police brutality, etc...(and I'm not talking about going to some grade school and reading books to 6 year olds). My guess is most of them couldn't find the East Side of Buffalo even if you gave them a map. http://m.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Bills-players-seek-to-inspire-change-with-day-of-community-outreach/7ca38bbd-2bb0-427b-b442-f9033bcd0435 that took 4 minutes to find with google. McCoy handed out presents on the east side as well. i do agree that players are kinda isolated being in OP and a good 20 minutes from Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, baskin said: so you have no knowledge on the issue or no opinion? 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Can't see this being an effective or sensible remedy with a penalty being assessed before the game even starts. what penalty would it be? Unsportsmanlike conduct? That'll go over well. Terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 They are using the money to buy knee braces that don't allow you to knell. Problem solved. The rest goes in some ones pocket. The norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is pretty stupid, and indicative of how far the whole issue has snowballed. It should have been straight forward- owners don't like players kneeling (for their own beliefs, for the negative effect on their bottom line, or for their own racism, who cares) owners tells all players that anyone kneeling wont play. Its a pretty simple thing really, but so much fear of offending anyone has made it convoluted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Kneel, don’t kneel, whatever. Play the damn song and kick the damn ball off. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I wish it would be the end of anthems. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Putin said: Nice way of looking at it ! The way I see it is the owners where losing The owners are losing because they are an increasingly unnecessary part of the game. The owners were a basic source of capital, but as the true source of capital began to dominate the game, power changed. As the players forced there way to a majority of the gross receopts the owners cemented their role as a minority partner in this enterprise. Its natural they are losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I'm going to try this at work. I keep getting held in contemt for exercising my first amendment right to kneel when ordered to rise as the judge enters the courtroom. I'm going to suggest my boss contribute a large sum of money to enable me to publicly express opinions, which are wholly unrelated to our business, under his banner. I think this will go over well. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: Who? Whoever he is he would look great in a Bills suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, eball said: How does any non-profit coalition use their funding? I don't know, I'm asking -- but I'd assume it is in marketing, outreach, awareness programs, etc. Everything costs $$. It would be nice to see athletes who were kneeling be some of the guys who are going out and speaking to groups (without being paid) about the social issues they wanted to raise awareness of. Maybe some of the money will be for APPROVED messages on knee pads. Sort of like the sneakers but more appropriate since if you kneel you do not get your message out. My Message would be: Busted knees, raised Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: I wish it would be the end of anthems. Simplest solution. I know I don't care about watching it. Of course, the number of butthurt people on both sides means that I doubt it will happen. 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Maybe some of the money will be for APPROVED messages on knee pads. Sort of like the sneakers but more appropriate since if you kneel you do not get your message out. My Message would be: Busted knees, raised Catholic. "People are more upset at us being on our knees than Sandusky's favorites" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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