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We got the worst 13 seconds in FB history, and applied Newton's 3rd law. For every failure to stop the Chiefs, there is a Von Miller to make those stops. Given all the crazy QBs in the AFC, this is amazing. How do you fund a stadium? Sign a superstar on the D to go with Josh Allen. Oh, and get him OJ, not that OJ. What a wild, amazing, day. Go Bills!

I agree with you on that. I think the "spirit" of the RR is fine, I think the truth of the matter is, despite all the stuff you want to talk about with 'wowing'... It does happen, but not often. I've been involved in the interview process many times where internal candidates that you knew up front were going to get the job - even when you had a team of 6 interviewers with 10 applicants - and not-shockingly, that person got the job. Sometimes you get locked in on someone. Sometimes you hear the buzz around your name and "think" you're (or from the other side of the table they're) the bomb.com, but you(they) aren't. I suspect some of that is going on too. If it was Josh McDaniels instead of Brian Daboll with the same info. He's not filing a lawsuit. But that doesn't mean it wasn't dodging a minority by the Giants. At the end of the day, the RR is flawed. They need to find a way to fix the optics somehow, the RR was a band-aid to give them better optics. Time to replace that with real reform. Maybe flat out force NFL teams to have at least one coordinator or above who is a minority. I don't like that, it's like affirmative action. But I don't know how you fix this in an era where DEI matters to many of your paying customers - and those you hope to attract in the future. As I said, this situation makes the NFL look bad, that is the part they need to fix.

This whole situation sucks. 1) I absolutely believe Flores is correct that the Rooney Rule is a sham. This isn't the first time this has come up with minority coaches, and won't be the last time with it in place. 2) Is the Rooney Rule even fair/working? Is it promoting actual hires of minority coaches? 3) Now there is a lot of laundry coming out in this lawsuit - some of which is probably accurate, some could be fake news. The supposed heat between Daboll and McD was something said by the Giants, it's total heresay as far as I'm concerned. Is it possible or even likely that Daboll and McD didn't get along? sure. But using a comment from someone who seemingly was going through the motions with the RR as 'evidence' is weak, he probably says whatever he wants to get what he wants. Bill B seemingly blew this up singlehandedly. If anyone hates the lawsuit at the NFL level, they are probably really hating on BB - but they can't do anything about it. It was an honest mistake, but if he knew Daboll was getting hired before they even interviewed Flores, that proves the RR was a sham in this case. 4) Second case in point, Dorsey gets OC. Bills seemingly did a very similar thing interviewing Tee Martin to satisfy the RR. Does that mean Dorsey isn't capable or wouldn't be the best person for the job? No. But the motions of the RR had to be satisfied and it's a sham. 5) This stuff about bonuses for losing, also a bad look. Was that offered because he was a minority? probably not, but paying your coach to lose so you can get a better draft pick is asinine. I don't think it makes his case, it is just further evidence that the NFL is a business first, a sports league second. Rooney Rule needs to go away. It's a sham that is now going to get Flores money and give the NFL a bad look. They need to find ways to help prepare minority coaches so they are sought out as something more than a "token minority interview". I do think Flores can coach, but he just committed career suicide by suing the organization made up by his prospective employers. I think the Giants organization is going to take a hit, as well as the Broncos based on those references. I wonder if the new GM also takes a hit - welcome to NY, sorry for being part of the problem, off you go. I am not 100% sure how the Bills will end up as a result of this. The Pegula organization seemingly cares about DEI - but this last hire of Dorsey felt very similar to Daboll in terms of the Rooney Rule. EDIT - Curious question. Anyone know the ratio of minority coaches in the FBS and/or the FCS? Is it similar to the NFL? NFL often uses the colleges as a farm system for coaches it feels like - but if they aren't getting opportunities there either, it makes sense.

The game you didn't mention that always hurt me a bit - was that crazy Bronco's game - the one in Buffalo where they came back at the end and somehow managed to kick a field goal to win it - when everyone was sure they didn't have time to run it. That thing stung. It wasn't the playoffs or anything, but it was as bad as the "just give it to them" game in my gut. No Goal... Wide Right... Homerun Throwback... 13 Seconds... All of these are like the old Wide World of Sports opening, the Thrill of (imminent) Victory, the Agony of Defeat... All of that said. I really thought we would win yesterday because our Defense would slow them down 'enough'. Which they did a decent job of early, but seemingly could do nothing to stop them in Q4 and OT. The look on Josh's face on the sideline after the first go ahead score. followed by having to do it one more time... AND - for the record, the OT rule is what it is. I don't see how it would have ended any different. Sorry. Mahomes was unstoppable from the Bills vantage point. I hate him every much as I hated Tom Brady. But he was lights out better than Brady ever was last night. And him running across the field to find Josh after the win, was pretty special - not Belicheck coming to see you in the locker room special, but pretty classy from someone I thought was classless. Thanks again for your work. You help put things in perspective for those who aren't going to games, hell I barely get to see them except playoffs and prime time games.

We totally got outpunted in this game. Couldn't kick a FG either. Terrible.

I've been let down by our RBs. So too has the team. I'm going to go Defense. I think we're due for some picks. Tre', that's you I'm calling on.

Singletary. I think they're going to try to run it - to prove we can still do that. Being lazy - but when is the last time we gave a RB 20 carries in a game?

If that play worked, no one cares about all the stuff mentioned in the thread. If Allen doesn't lose footing on his push, I think he makes it, combine that with their penetration and it's stuffed. Last night I was all why didn't we go for a tie in the moment? but honestly, it was the right call. We weren't stopping them and a score there was a likely W. Defense failed us last night. It wasn't an abysmal failure by them, but we could not seemingly stop them as the game wore on. We need our own Hammer in the backfield. I want one of those, then we score 2 TDs early instead of 2 FGs and Q4 is a non-issue... <edit - snipped double posting>

Can we get one in the Firebaugh hoodie though?

Maybe he was hoping to straighten his fall? <kidding> Thanks for sharing something I can't unsee. That's the kind of worry about that play, if you clip the defender your path is going to be altered. Josh's form indicates he's maybe practiced this though...

38-17 Buffalo. Mitch might play Q4.

I'm going with someone who's been trending up this season continuing to do so. Knox.

My son has a severe Peanut allergy. He eats AB&J almost daily and would beg to differ. I, however, would never eat one. PB&J. More importantly and not a question. Blackberry jam. and while the sandwich is called a Peanut Butter and Jelly - I can't stand Jelly.

32 fanbases think the refs are out to get them. The parity of the NFL where most games feel close enough to be won, makes every play overemphasized and if there is (or isn't) yellow, someone feels gipped. I think the refs do a heck of a job most of the time, the plays I really hate are the judgement calls where there is no safety net, flag is thrown or not thrown and you can't reverse that split second decision by one person who did/didn't see something. What changed in the NFL is just how close every game feels (imho). It used to be there were blowouts all of the time. I'll tell you one more thing. I'm a data analyst by trade - but I think this whole analytics thing has gone way too far in sports. Football has always been a game of inches, we don't need a micrometer to analyze every damn play and come up with a crazy statistic about it because we can. If that statistic has history enough to say - when XYZ happens, teams win (or lose) most of the time, those are important. Not the speed some guy ran on one play, or how tight the window was for the ball to be thrown. That's what players are paid to do - and what they've been doing since the game was born. Proof of why analytics are overdone? Josh Allen. He has something beyond analytics - and that just pisses the hell out of the analytics folks who think they know everything.

Bills 31, Chiefs 27. I think it's going to be close - but I like our D making a few more stops than their D. Our running game has picked up - and that is also going to help keep Mahomes off the field.

I think 2 things will be key, special teams and secondary, as people said above, Wallace is going to get targeted and I think White will get looks too. White hasn't been all world this year (it doesn't feel). But for sure we have to stop Kelce or it'll be a long night in KC. Gone are the last 3 weeks of young QBs, it's a real challenge and we'll see if the D can play up to the competition. I like our D better than theirs at this point and that's what probably makes the difference as long as we aren't making mistakes on offense.

He's like a LAMP poster on a website. First - the NFL is horrible for requiring it, then the NFLPA is abandoning him for not standing up to the league, now it's the fans. The thing is, he drew a line in the sand, and now he can't cross it because doing so would be weak - and football players aren't weak. For all we know, he got a vaccine and is just being a troll. As long as it doesn't become a distraction, I think the team will let him spout off... but if it starts becoming a distraction in the locker room - I think there will be some team mention and ramifications. Are there breakthrough cases? of course there are. Have people died who had a vaccine? Yes. At the risk of talking COVID on the main board... When you look at the statistics - which population has more chance of being in the hospital with Delta? Unvaccinated or Vaccinated? By and large it is unvaccinated people in hospitals and in morgues from Delta. It's also NOT physically fit football players with the best healthcare in the country who are constantly monitored. We haven't seen outbreaks on any teams - which is a great thing. Last season it seems like there was an outbreak on a team almost weekly. Very hopeful we can get through this and it'll just be part of the annual flu shot, which is what I expect is going to happen. That genie is out of the bottle, and it's not going back in any time soon. I have to say the gaslighting online is insane if you search vaccines.

One of the other biggest differences.... Home Field. Kelce is a beast though.

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It's like a classical physics vs. quantum mechanics thing. PFF is stuck in classical physics - using all these 'known' variables to try to distill a player down to a single "score". Quantum mechanics would say you have to lean towards other things. I mean - that list (if Sal typed it in order) has Darnold ahead of Mahomes. Really? Besides, who the heck should care about a 1 week grade early in the season. Pfffffft indeed.

The active roster got bumped by 1 or 2 players I think - but there's a cap on how many inactives can be O-Line. Also - they let McKenzie go...

Dear TB12 - Thanks for the memories (all bad). This is going to be an interesting year (presuming this current madness is over by the time pigskins fly).

Yawn. Haters gonna hate. Win. Win. Win. And ignore the media figureheads trying to sell clicks (used to be papers, but now it's just clicks). What they should be saying - and some are - is that this team is going to be much scarier as Josh continues to mature and as the OL gels more. We pretty much all knew these things at the start of the season. The biggest surprise is probably that Josh has shown growth which was not necessarily anticipated. As NE fades (while 11-3, they are being exposed), the Bills are climbing. I sort of expect to see this evolve into Bills/Jets in the AFCE over the next few years - although the Jets seem like a dumpster fire now, but they have talent.

Agree with you - just adding... 4) Josh is rushed because of that pressure and the timing was off from practice. This week is another tough assignment against another team with great game-plan coaching. It's going to be interesting to see. Still not 'panic' time for the team as far as the playoffs go - but winning this game would go a long way to quieting the critics and also towards a possible win of the AFCE. We just faced a team that is better than the Patriots and put forth a good effort. they continue with that effort Sunday and I think we win. I won't go so far as to make predictions, but it is a winnable game.

They are who we thought they were! Ravens are a better team - and they showed us that on the field. They challenged Josh to beat them with the long ball, something he's not been able to do consistently. If he doesn't overthrow a couple passes, we probably win that game. I thought it was a gutty performance by the team. We just played the best team in the league, one which is probably going to win the SB this year - but we also made it a tough game and perhaps we'll get to say something about who goes to the SB in the playoffs. Hey - the Chiefs won though, so that gives us hope that we could still win the division! That'd give us a home playoff game.