YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ...impossible...he is now a Bill.....TBD will be in total disarray................ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 We were t the only team. Arizona has Allen at the top also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 But Eric Galko and Mike Schopp think he’s terrible. They must be right 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Shhhhh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Cmon cant be we know Bean and Mcdermott arent capable; that title belongs to Whaley and his band of misfit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) it is going to be nice being relevant again, year in and year out. Edited May 4, 2018 by Foxx 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Another team down on Rosen? I have to think there is stuff the teams have access to and we don’t that has caused that. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) Well this doesn’t jive with what the “experts” around here have been telling me over the last week..... i guess pat shurmur doesn’t know what he’s doing either. Edited May 4, 2018 by Stank_Nasty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Didn't they read that he only had a 56% completion rate last season? Must not have done their research. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Confirmation bias boys. No one knows a darn thing for a few more years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 These rankings are based on perceived potential. Allen does have some serious potential. Me personally I would have like more of a sure fire thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Didn't they read that he only had a 56% completion rate last season? Must not have done their research. I guess we can lump shurmur into a group with the bills brass that obviously knows nothing about football or the position.... it’s not like he just got a journeyman qb to play at a high level or anything. I trust our experts around here way more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 This isn't possible. There are really smart people on this board that know for a fact that he's a bust already. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: This isn't possible. There are really smart people on this board that know for a fact that he's a bust already. This is the exact type of passive aggressive post that instigates the exact negativity your type claim to despise. Way to keep the negativity flowing, atta boy! Edited May 4, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Confirmation bias boys. No one knows a darn thing for a few more years. Right... but the same goes for the Evan Silva’s and Jeremy Whites if the works who already declared the pick a bust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: This is the exact type of passive aggressive post that instigates the exact negativity your type claim to despise. Way to keep the negativity flowing, atta boy! My type? What, pray tell, is "my type"? Do you mean folks that like to jab a bit at the posters that state absolutes about prospects before they've taken a snap in the NFL? Oh, then yes, that's my type. I'm all about folks having an informed opinion; I'm also all about admitting when you aren't certain about something--the way some folks have railed against Allen, claiming certainty regarding his inability to succeed in the NFL, is well-deserving of ridicule IMO...even if they're eventually proven right. If a good-natured ribbing upsets those folks, well, then they need to toughen up. I'll start the process by being less passive and more aggressive! 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Another team down on Rosen? I have to think there is stuff the teams have access to and we don’t that has caused that. I think it's simpler than that. He wore that hat and now teams think he's the next Kaepernick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Right... but the same goes for the Evan Silva’s and Jeremy Whites if the works who already declared the pick a bust Indeed I've been supportive of picking any of the top 5 QBs, and I'm the first to admit that none of us knows how things will turn out. Just give the kid (and the regime) a chance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLCoolCy Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I posted the article they are referring to in a different thread interesting read for those who are interested. Members 0 1 post Report post Posted 4 hours ago (edited) While this isn't the Bill's Draft board, the NY post reported the Giants weren't taking a Quarterback but the preference was split between Darnold and Allen (Shurmur's choice) with Mayfield lightly considered. Makes sense that Beane would have an alignment with Gettleman player grades. "Quarterback was never an option: It is not as if the Giants viewed this quarterback class as trash. They liked three of them — Baker Mayfield was not in the discussion very long — a great deal but in order to justify the No. 2 overall pick, there had to be love, of which there was none. Most troubling, and telling, was there was no true consensus among the Giants coaches, scouts and front office as to the pecking order. Some liked Sam Darnold best. Others liked Josh Allen best. Darnold, Allen. Allen, Darnold. Around and around it went, and then, a little Josh Rosen sprinkled in. What does that tell you? The assumption that if the Giants were adamant about taking a quarterback it would have been Darnold is faulty. In fact, Pat Shurmur preferred Allen, believing he has the most upside." https://nypost.com/2018/05/03/giants-havent-been-this-satisfied-with-a-draft-in-a-long-time/ Giants board per the author appears to be: 1. Saquon Barkley 2. Bradley Chubb 3. Allen/Darnold 4. Mayfield 5. Rosen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: This isn't possible. There are really smart people on this board that know for a fact that he's a bust already. My data says he's not good= no chance he'll ever be good! smh I've seen it wayyyyy too many times lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 But, but, but....the Tweets!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I think it's simpler than that. He wore that hat and now teams think he's the next Kaepernick. I’ve had that thought, too. Politics seems to be kryptonite to the nfl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Confirmation bias boys. No one knows a darn thing for a few more years. Speaking of confirmation bias... Jon Ledyard of the great FanRagSports accuses Paul Schwartz of the New York Post of making up information and writing a "click bait" article. It may or may not be because the report "flies in the face" of Ledyard's and the FanRagSports' team's evaluation of Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, peterpan said: These rankings are based on perceived potential. Allen does have some serious potential. Me personally I would have like more of a sure fire thing.... But you wear tights so your judgement is questionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: My type? What, pray tell, is "my type"? Do you mean folks that like to jab a bit at the posters that state absolutes about prospects before they've taken a snap in the NFL? Oh, then yes, that's my type. I'm all about folks having an informed opinion; I'm also all about admitting when you aren't certain about something--the way some folks have railed against Allen, claiming certainty regarding his inability to succeed in the NFL, is well-deserving of ridicule IMO...even if they're eventually proven right. If a good-natured ribbing upsets those folks, well, then they need to toughen up. I'll start the process by being less passive and more aggressive! Hey, going to the opener? I am. Maybe we can share a beer and you can explain in person how funny and aggressive you are. Ill explain “what type” you’re acting like. Im sure it’ll be an excellent in person debate. You in? Edited May 5, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Just as much smoke a week after a draft as compared to a week before lol. They had their pick of the litter and came out with a RB lol! Don't get me wrong, Barkley will be great but... lmao at Gettleman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Hey, going to the opener? I am. Maybe we can share a beer and you can explain in person how funny and aggressive you are. Ill explain “what type” you’re acting like. You in? Unfortunately, for the first time in 31 years, I won't be renewing my seasons. Just got to be too much taking a 6th day away from the wife and kids. If not, I'd totally be down for a beer. I promise I wouldn't have to explain my humor (it's not funny if you have to explain it...or vice versa). For now I'll assume you actually meant have a beer and weren't makin a threat (cuz what "type" of person would do that?) Edited May 5, 2018 by thebandit27 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Unfortunately, for the first time in 31 years, I won't be renewing my seasons. Just got to be too much taking a 6th day away from the wife and kids. If not, I'd totally be down for a beer. I promise I wouldn't have to explain my humor (it's not funny if you have to explain it...or vice versa). For now I'll assume you actually meant have a beer and weren't makin a threat (cuz what "type" of person would do that?) Well it was a little bit of a joke and a threat depending on the person I’m talking to. You understood it could be taken both ways and called that out specifically so I’m sure we would have gotten along famously. I mean, think about it, am I really meeting up with someone that is expecting a brawl during a home opener? Well, maybe... Edited May 5, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 the fanrag guy. Schoop , and white have a lot invested in Allen being a bust. At this point they have to choice but to double down . The kid has an a ton of talent to be given a third round grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: Didn't they read that he only had a 56% completion rate last season? Must not have done their research. The lost commandment reads: Remember thou thy completion percentage for to keep it holy. Edited May 5, 2018 by Mickey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 It seems like Allen was thought of much more highly in NFL circles than he was in media and fan circles. and just the opposite seems true on Rosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: It seems like Allen was thought of much more highly in NFL circles than he was in media and fan circles. and just the opposite seems true on Rosen. Happens all the time. NFL circles get players like Allen wrong all the time, but they are pretty good on players like Rosen. Doesn't mean Rosen is a sure bust, but it's a major red flag. I still would have taken Rosen over Allen. Rosen is starting to remind me of Jimmy Clausen though, very similar. Edited May 5, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: It seems like Allen was thought of much more highly in NFL circles than he was in media and fan circles. and just the opposite seems true on Rosen. Which is what matters. Most fans just regurgitate what they hear on espn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Which is what matters. Most fans just regurgitate what they hear on espn Is ESPN still on TV? I haven’t been keeping track of the implosion too closely. It seems they are trying to fail, and they are succeeding. They annoy the %&#@ out of me, for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 The Giant Insider: "Only a few Rosen fans. Not a surprise there". Probably scared Rosen will skip practice to drink espresso and hang out with all the beatniks at NYU. Like cool, daddy-o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Let the play speak for himself. In 2012 Russell Wilson beat out the veteran Matt Flynn. If Allen is good he should easily beat out McCarron & Peterman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: But Eric Galko and Mike Schopp think he’s terrible. They must be right You've got a weird obsession man. But anyways, they passed on both at the most important position. So what the he'll does this mean anyways? I also don't care what that team had anyone valued at. They're going to be a disaster for the next 5 years in my opinion. 5 hours ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: the fanrag guy. Schoop , and white have a lot invested in Allen being a bust. At this point they have to choice but to double down . The kid has an a ton of talent to be given a third round grade. They have nothing invested. Allen can have a HOF career and all they'd say is no one did it with that college career. They have absolutely no investment in rooting for the guy to fail. The fan rag guy you all hate didn't like him before he was a Bill. I wish you'd all stop with this kind of nonsense, it makes us look pathetic. But to reiterate, they have absolutely nothing invested in him being a bust. It'll do Schopp and White nothing career wise for him to suck. You're clueless. Edited May 5, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: You've got a weird obsession man. But anyways, they passed on both at the most important position. So what the he'll does this mean anyways? I also don't care what that team had anyone valued at. They're going to be a disaster for the next 5 years in my opinion. Shocker 20 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: They have nothing invested. Allen can have a HOF career and all they'd say is no one did it with that college career. They have absolutely no investment in rooting for the guy to fail. The fan rag guy you all hate didn't like him before he was a Bill. I wish you'd all stop with this kind of nonsense, it makes us look pathetic. You do a fine job of that on your own 20 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: But to reiterate, they have absolutely nothing invested in him being a bust. It'll do Schopp and White nothing career wise for him to suck. You're clueless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Shocker You do a fine job of that on your own So do you care to actually say anything? I think I've told you more than once now, put me on ignore. You know what, !@#$ it. I never do this, but since you won't do it I'm doing it. Peace G.E.D. From riverside. Also G.E.D., you probably couldn't grasp the point. I was saying I think the giants will be a disaster. I'm not sure which would give you more credit for having a semblance of intelligence. Thinking you're defending a team drafting an RB at 2, or thinking that my point clearly about the Giants is about the Bills. I think you thought I was talking about the Bills. Edited May 5, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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