YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Not surprised given how much due diligence they did on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) Yep, this solidifies it for me. Their top 3 were: Darnold Allen Rudolph Edited April 30, 2018 by NewEraBills 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: Yep this solidifies it for me. There top 3 were: Darnold Allen Rudolph I agree. All three are big, pocket passers. I couldn’t imagine them going Mayfield or Jackson. I think they’d had just about enough of a QB running around in the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 That should scare the **** out of every Bills' fan. Rudolph. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I wouldn’t have been as nice about that pick (especially considering he would have been an option at 65). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills4life1924 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Not surprised given how much due diligence they did on him That football looks huge in his hand 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I wouldn’t have been as nice about that pick (especially considering he would have been an option at 65). You would never have known that if they picked him at 22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 I mentioned in another thread but Steelers are chirping that they had a 1st round grade on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: You would never have known that if they picked him at 22 I’m on record that I would have been okay at 53 or 56 if the other 5 QBs were gone. I would have hated 22. This isn’t hindsight coming from me. It’s documented. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) I said before the draft that it wasn't my first choice, but I would not mind taking Roquan at 12, then Rudolph or Jackson at 22 and keeping the rest of our picks. That would go for Edmunds, too. I wouldn't mind Edmunds, Rudolph, and then having the two second rounder and taking Chark or Pettis or even James Washington for Rudolph and one of the good OL still available. Edited April 30, 2018 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That should scare the **** out of every Bills' fan. Rudolph. BBFS. Rosen got you all twisted up. Poor fella. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 "strongly considered" at 22 (not even 12!). That is bulletin board material (assuming Cleveland gets good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: "strongly considered" at 22 (not even 12!). That is bulletin board material (assuming Cleveland gets good). Think that you are confusing the QBs. Rudolph went at 79. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I mentioned in another thread but Steelers are chirping that they had a 1st round grade on him Then why not take him in the second? I think that's them trying to convince themselves he's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Denver was rumored to be very high on Rudolph. I can't blame them for passing in the 2nd and taking WR Courtland Sutton, but they had a chance to nab him in the 3rd, but opted for RB Royce Freeman. For their sake I hope Rudolph doesn't pan out... Actually, screw the Broncos, I hope Rudolph does pan out so their fans can lament the fact they took a RB over a starting QB. Shades of TJ Graham over Russell Wilson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Think that you are confusing the QBs. Rudolph went at 79. Shesh you are correct! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Maybe the greatest QB draft class in a while wasn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Yeah but I heard his “ceiling” was low. Lol. Whatever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I agree. All three are big, pocket passers. I couldn’t imagine them going Mayfield or Jackson. I think they’d had just about enough of a QB running around in the backfield. lol Darnold is by no means a pocket passer. He was constantly running around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 NFL.com also said that the Bills were "strongly considering" Paxton Lynch at 19 in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I said before the draft that it wasn't my first choice, but I would not mind taking Roquan at 12, then Rudolph or Jackson at 22 and keeping the rest of our picks. That would go for Edmunds, too. I wouldn't mind Edmunds, Rudolph, and then having the two second rounder and taking Chark or Pettis or even James Washington for Rudolph and one of the good OL still available. Would have been Jackson at 22 for me, but yes keeping 53, 56, and 65 could have helped. I was for moving up however. Edited April 30, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: NFL.com also said that the Bills were "strongly considering" Paxton Lynch at 19 in 2016 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Maybe the greatest QB draft class in a while wasn't? From a "prospect potential" aspect, it certainly was the best in a while. Just because Rudolph slid to the 3rd round doesnt mean teams wouldnt have picked him earlier had the draft played out differently. But once the run on QBs by desperate teams was complete by pick 10, the rest could shift focus elsewhere. Only time will tell whether any of them are successful in the league. But for now, it was a great class if you needed a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Well.....that is not how it played out soooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 That the Bills would have considered taking Mason Rudolph at #22 - makes we want to crawl out on the ledge again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronyAbounds Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Silly me, I thought Mason Rudolph was a golfer from the 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: That the Bills would have considered taking Mason Rudolph at #22 - makes we want to crawl out on the ledge again.... All the kid ever did was throw touchdowns, complete passes and win football games against some of the best teams in the country. What makes him worse than a guy that did none of those things? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: That the Bills would have considered taking Mason Rudolph at #22 - makes we want to crawl out on the ledge again.... Makes me less sure of their talent evaluators ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I mentioned in another thread but Steelers are chirping that they had a 1st round grade on him They said immediately after taking him in their presser that he was the best player on their board when they took Washington but with the run on receivers they had to take Washington there in the 2nd and they got pretty much straight off the phone to Washington and started trying to trade up for Rudolph. Pittsburgh believe they have drafted their next Quarterback, make no mistake. I believe they have also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Not surprised given how much due diligence they did on him The Bills would have "strongly considered" any of the QB's left, regardless. They were going to draft a QB no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said: Then why not take him in the second? I think that's them trying to convince themselves he's good. Because of the run on receivers which they considered a more immediate need. That is their public explanation in any event. But Pittsburgh did more work on Rudolph than any other team in the league. I have been saying for weeks that is where he would end up. They don't need to convince themselves he is good. They are already convinced. Edited April 30, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because of the run on receivers which they considered a more immediate need. That is their public explanation in any event. But Pittsburgh did more work on Rudolph than any other team in the league. I have been saying for weeks that is where he would end up. They don't need to convince themselves he is good. They are already convinced. If they thought he was so good and had a first round grade there is no reason to wait until the third and risk missing on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: If they thought he was so good and had a first round grade there is no reason to wait until the third and risk missing on him. Their reason would be they have a franchise Quarterback and were not in "must have" mode. It wouldn't surprise me if the Steelers had a 1st round grade on Rudolph. It was reported by multiple outlets before the draft that a "handful" of teams saw him as a 1st rounder and no team spent as much time scouting Rudolph as the Steelers. Equally it wouldn't surprise me if they had a 2nd on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Their reason would be they have a franchise Quarterback and were not in "must have" mode. It wouldn't surprise me if the Steelers had a 1st round grade on Rudolph. It was reported by multiple outlets before the draft that a "handful" of teams saw him as a 1st rounder and no team spent as much time scouting Rudolph as the Steelers. Equally it wouldn't surprise me if they had a 2nd on him. Teams have a good idea of which QBs other teams are looking at. This is the best place of Rudolph to make it tho. Hes probobly in the best place out of all the QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I think the biggest reason Rudolph dropped was because his throws have no zip on the ball. I read that Allen throws it 10 miles an hour faster than Rudolph. Probably one of the reasons why the Bills parted with the 2 second round picks instead of settling for Rudolph. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, NewEraBills said: Yep, this solidifies it for me. Their top 3 were: Darnold Allen Rudolph My Top 3 were Mayfield Allen Rudolph 26CB scolded me but it seems like the Bills and Steelers agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That should scare the **** out of every Bills' fan. Rudolph. The Steelers thought Rudolph was the best QB among the top six...I am sure their scouting abilities are far better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, ganesh said: The Steelers thought Rudolph was the best QB among the top six...I am sure their scouting abilities are far better! Landry Jones says hello! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said: If they thought he was so good and had a first round grade there is no reason to wait until the third and risk missing on him. Certainly not for a WR from this class. But hey, they still have Ben and in the 3rd it doesn't carry much risk if he doesn't turn out to be anything special. That's a very different position than our Bills were in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That should scare the **** out of every Bills' fan. Rudolph. Of course you know more than the Bills and the Steelers. Two professional organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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