NoSaint Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Big, inaccurate qbs was a Whaley staple. and we drafted Zay last year; traded our one good wr before the season; brought in an OC who was terrible; thought Matthews could be a #1, etc. our offense was really bad last year. So yeah, I’m not blindly trusting them to develop a raw qb who struggled in the Mountain West. But we really nailed down depth at rb! Jokes aside, every reason to be skeptical of the kid but he checks a ton of boxes and if in 2 years we have to move on it’s not the end of the world 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, GG said: One appears to have a touch more mobility I swear he reminds me of Aaron Rodgers when he's slinging that ball effortlessly on the run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: Allen is way more mobile then Bledsoe. Bledsoe was a staute in the pocket While Bledsoe was never an athletic mover, he was OK in New England. It was really when he got to Buffalo at age 30, 31 and 32 that his legs visibly started to freeze up. He lost what mobility he had. Bills fans remember a Bledsoe who was not what he had been. You look at his first six years and he never had more than 36 sacks. After that he was rarely below 45. But yeah, he was never as athletic as Allen. Edited April 28, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, JerseyBills said: I swear he reminds me of Aaron Rodgers when he's slinging that ball effortlessly on the run. I know man He's got that Rodgers/Romo/ben rocket during throw during a scramble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: But we really nailed down depth at rb! Jokes aside, every reason to be skeptical of the kid but he checks a ton of boxes and if in 2 years we have to move on it’s not the end of the world Agreed but we always go with the check a lot of boxes guy who lacks the main thing that separates nfl qbs, ability to throw accurately. agree on the financial part isn’t a big deal anymore but man, if he fails, all the evidence was there. I just hate the weather being part of the reason and Terry P falling in love with the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Big, inaccurate qbs was a Whaley staple. and we drafted Zay last year; traded our one good wr before the season; brought in an OC who was terrible; thought Matthews could be a #1, etc. our offense was really bad last year. So yeah, I’m not blindly trusting them to develop a raw qb who struggled in the Mountain West. Youd be correct but Whaley never drafted EJ. Buddy Nix was GM at the time. So your argument is meaningless. And just because they drafted one QB doesnt set a president. Im sure inaccurate QBs is exactly what Whaley was looking for lol. Good lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Seriously, it's almost scary how much these two are similar. Similarities: Grew up in small towns Height and Weight Arm Length Wonderlic Score College Completion % Read this and tell me this doesn't sound familar: Then Drew Bledsoe came out and his velocity was different, the spin on his ball was different, and it was like, O.K., now I see why he's the Number 1 pick." https://www.si.com/vault/2010/11/08/106003792/the-art-of-the-pass Allen is slightly more athletic, but coming out of college, they were really similar. Terrible comparison...Bledsoe was a statue in the pocket and was out of the NFL before his time should have been up when he could no longer move enough to even avoid a rusher. Allen is very athletic...much more like a Big Ben or Carson Wentz mold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Thursday night, Mayock I believe, compared Josh Allen to Carson Wentz coming out of the draft. Big stature, mobile and athletic, big arm, but lacking consistency in passing. Wentz seemed to get his short comings fixed, so I suspect Allen can do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I’d just like to add that Josh Allen scored a 37 on the Wonderlic while Drew Bledsoe was brain dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I would take it any day...Bledsoe was amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Rico said: I’d just like to add that Josh Allen scored a 37 on the Wonderlic while Drew Bledsoe was brain dead. Bledsoe scored a 36 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bledsoe wasn’t born with feet. He had anchors instead. Allen does not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 The slightly athletic comment in from combine scores. Don't think Bledsoe ran the 40, but in the other events Allen was only slightly better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I swear he reminds me of Aaron Rodgers when he's slinging that ball effortlessly on the run. If he climbed the pocket and did his progressions more rapidly he wouldn't have to be running around flinging in the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: If he climbed the pocket and did his progressions more rapidly he wouldn't have to be running around flinging in the ball. You talking about Rodgers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: If he climbed the pocket and did his progressions more rapidly he wouldn't have to be running around flinging in the ball. True but they had a ton of designed roll outs as well and took advantage of his freakish ability to produce on the run. He's as naturally gifted as a QB I've seen, it's all about him putting in the work to take his game to the next level. I don't think this staff would have taken him if they had any doubt whatsoever that he's not going to work his butt off . I see Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf jokes but that couldn't be more inaccurate, they were lazy, privileged rookies in toxic locker rooms. this kid is going to be in a wonderful locker room imo and going to work his butt off. I see more Carson Wentz than Leaf or Russell and it's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Except that Bledsoe was a statue in the pocket with zero mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: You talking about Rodgers? Allen. If Rodgers relied on running and flinging he wouldn't be in the NFL long. It's okay to pull off a wonder pass now and again but it's no way to make a living in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) I see an Aaron (Rodgers)/Brett (Favre)/Carson (Wentz) hybrid QB. There will be some growing pains but we finally have our Franchise QB! Edited April 28, 2018 by Peace Frog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Except that Bledsoe was a statue in the pocket with zero mobility. On the spectrum allen is about middle of the pack? even slow guys can take a few steps in the pocket. I don’t envision Allen’s ability to run changing defensive game plans considerably. He will avoid some sacks and create some time here and there which is great but vs a relatively non athletic guy pocket presence will bes bigger issue than 40 time. Edited April 28, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Bledsoe scored a 36 You’re scaring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 They definitely have similar strengths even if they have one major difference they both have incredible arm talent and josh is a pocket passer but versitle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 FrankenBledsoe moved in the pocket like he was wearing boots with 50 pounds of cement in each of them. Horrible comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I know I will get beat up for this but I see more John Elway, in Allen, than I do Drew Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, GG said: One appears to have a touch more mobility Bledsoe ended up a statue I really don't remember how he started. That said Allen has great athletic ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Seriously, it's almost scary how much these two are similar. Similarities: Grew up in small towns Height and Weight Arm Length Wonderlic Score College Completion % Read this and tell me this doesn't sound familar: Then Drew Bledsoe came out and his velocity was different, the spin on his ball was different, and it was like, O.K., now I see why he's the Number 1 pick." https://www.si.com/vault/2010/11/08/106003792/the-art-of-the-pass Allen is slightly more athletic, but coming out of college, they were really similar. 1 Complete and utter horsecrap as they are nothing alike in the pocket. Allen compares to Cam Newton that he can escape rushers and easily run away from them. He is also like Big Ben in that he is so big it takes a ton to bring him down. Bledsoe was like Flacco in that he can run...like a mad stork on crack...rumbling...stumbling...bumbling. The biggest fault Bledsoe had was he couldn't escape the rushers due to his IMMOBILITY, and thus took far to many sacks. He also held the ball too long waiting for his receivers to break open. I'll tell you what though. I only hope Allen has a 14-year career with 4 pro bowls and a super bowl ring like Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: Shuttles had drew at 4.5 and allen at 4.4... Considering how the game has changed, that’s probably not as big a gap once you normalize for how much faster everyone is. i dont think it’s some perfect comparison and allen is definitely quicker but nowhere near as absurd as some will portray and if allen retires with 4 probowls and a ring he will be a home run for us. Was thinking this as well... nothing wrong with Drew Bledsoe... nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Seriously, it's almost scary how much these two are similar. Similarities: Grew up in small towns Height and Weight Arm Length Wonderlic Score College Completion % Read this and tell me this doesn't sound familar: Then Drew Bledsoe came out and his velocity was different, the spin on his ball was different, and it was like, O.K., now I see why he's the Number 1 pick." https://www.si.com/vault/2010/11/08/106003792/the-art-of-the-pass Allen is slightly more athletic, but coming out of college, they were really similar. Did Bledsoe look dominate in college. In other words, did Drew Bledsoe win games for his team in college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Two things- 1) Drew Bledsoe’s arms trength isnt close to Allen’s. 2) Drew Bledsoe couldn’t outrun a 40 year old obese british bulldog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Hopefully minus the bone head throws and slow processing while holding onto the ball forever. Bledsoe had some real decent years early on in NE but he was an absolute dud towards the later years in NE and here in Buffalo. I admittedly assumed that he was comparing the two as incoming rookies. Though I’m also fine if allen gets us a ring and then we trade him to the pats for a first to start our dynasty if he was being super literal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: Two things- 1) Drew Bledsoe’s arms trength isnt close to Allen’s. 2) Drew Bledsoe couldn’t outrun a 40 year old obese british bulldog. Bledsoe had a pretty sick arm. I bet he was pretty close in when he was young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Seriously, it's almost scary how much these two are similar. Similarities: Grew up in small towns Height and Weight Arm Length Wonderlic Score College Completion % Read this and tell me this doesn't sound familar: Then Drew Bledsoe came out and his velocity was different, the spin on his ball was different, and it was like, O.K., now I see why he's the Number 1 pick." https://www.si.com/vault/2010/11/08/106003792/the-art-of-the-pass Allen is slightly more athletic, but coming out of college, they were really similar. This is the worst comparison I've ever heard. Congratulations. You played yoself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Seriously, it's almost scary how much these two are similar. Similarities: Grew up in small towns Height and Weight Arm Length Wonderlic Score College Completion % Read this and tell me this doesn't sound familar: Then Drew Bledsoe came out and his velocity was different, the spin on his ball was different, and it was like, O.K., now I see why he's the Number 1 pick." https://www.si.com/vault/2010/11/08/106003792/the-art-of-the-pass Allen is slightly more athletic, but coming out of college, they were really similar. Bledsoe had cement blocks for feet. Nothing close to Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) A mobile Drew Bledsoe in his prime? I'll be good with that all day long. Edited April 28, 2018 by BuffaloBillsGospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Seriously, it's almost scary how much these two are similar. Similarities: Grew up in small towns Height and Weight Arm Length Wonderlic Score College Completion % Read this and tell me this doesn't sound familar: Then Drew Bledsoe came out and his velocity was different, the spin on his ball was different, and it was like, O.K., now I see why he's the Number 1 pick." https://www.si.com/vault/2010/11/08/106003792/the-art-of-the-pass Allen is slightly more athletic, but coming out of college, they were really similar. Slightly more athletic? Bledsoe was a statue!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) I'm definitely not ready to say Allen is going to have the same kind of career, but from what I've seen...the arm, the mobility, the good plays, the dumb plays...he reminds me a whole hell of a lot of Brett Favre in his first or second year in Green Bay. Edited April 28, 2018 by Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Bledsoe had a pretty sick arm. I bet he was pretty close in when he was young. I doubt it. The sports science folks who proclaimed jamarcus russel and pat mahomes as having the biggest strongest arms in the NFL, just said Allen has the strongest arm they have ever seen by a long shot. Said he has been recorded at throwing a football 70+ mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engelwood Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 5 hours ago, nedboy7 said: Me = Ray Lewis. Where do I sign? Is that pre or post murder case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said: I doubt it. The sports science folks who proclaimed jamarcus russel and pat mahomes as having the biggest strongest arms in the NFL, just said Allen has the strongest arm they have ever seen by a long shot. Said he has been recorded at throwing a football 70+ mph. 70 mph? WOW, wind? what wind? Superman... Edited April 28, 2018 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Figster said: 70 mph? WOW, wind? what wind? Superman... I saw that he threw one or miles per hour faster than Darnold and Rosen. Not sure if that really matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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