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No conspiracy theories or anything, but it really is very curious as to why his numbers aren't out there yet. It seems pretty common place for numbers to Leak out within minutes of someone signing, so we are we so far removed from landing a big FA without having his numbers? It's just strange at this point. 

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1 minute ago, BrotherChazz said:

No conspiracy theories or anything, but it really is very curious as to why his numbers aren't out there yet. It seems pretty common place for numbers to Leak out within minutes of someone signing, so we are we so far removed from landing a big FA without having his numbers? It's just strange at this point. 

 

Agreed. It is very weird, especially because they released all of the other numbers. 

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12 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

I find this strange as well. I am actually excited about this pick up. I think he will have a huge impact on our Defense.

Agreed.  However we haven't in my eyes overpaid for anybody so far in Free Agency.  With that being said I would be shocked if when the numbers do come in we will be unhappy.  I believe we are going to see the real Star shine this year.

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20 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Numbers are probably low and the agent doesn't want to lower the market. If it were a big contract I think they would have released the numbers.

 

The bills don't release contract numbers or at least they didn't for a long time. So I feel it's the agents doing.

 

Never thought of this...nice point.

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1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Numbers are probably low and the agent doesn't want to lower the market. If it were a big contract I think they would have released the numbers.

 

The bills don't release contract numbers or at least they didn't for a long time. So I feel it's the agents doing.

Hope you're right. I'd hate to think its because their embarrassed they overpaid for 1 dimensional DT.

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4 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Hope you're right. I'd hate to think its because their embarrassed they overpaid for 1 dimensional DT.

 

if this was the case his agent would of tweeted his major score seconds after the ink dried

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I agree it’s not typical that the numbers aren’t out yet. But I’m unsure why so many people are worried about whether the Bills “overpaid.” Anyone signed on the 1st day of FA looks “overpaid” ... the cap keeps going up and the FA class isn’t spectacular this year so  there are a lot of eyebrow raising contracts. Each player has a certain value to the team that signs him. Why the angst?

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1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Numbers are probably low and the agent doesn't want to lower the market. If it were a big contract I think they would have released the numbers.

 

The bills don't release contract numbers or at least they didn't for a long time. So I feel it's the agents doing.

 

I tend to agree somewhat, but I don't think Lotulelei would've signed a 5-year deal if it was that big of a discount.  Unless it's got some crazy 1 or 2 year void clauses or something.

 

But I'll be very surprised if it's a huge, market-setting deal, because if it was, you'd think his agent would've leaked it right away.

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2 minutes ago, Cash said:

 

I tend to agree somewhat, but I don't think Lotulelei would've signed a 5-year deal if it was that big of a discount.  Unless it's got some crazy 1 or 2 year void clauses or something.

 

But I'll be very surprised if it's a huge, market-setting deal, because if it was, you'd think his agent would've leaked it right away.

 

I am guessing right around 8.5M a year 

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53 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

It's a good thing you're asking this question, OP. The whole thread dedicated to this didn't once ask about his contract numbers.

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47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I agree it’s not typical that the numbers aren’t out yet. But I’m unsure why so many people are worried about whether the Bills “overpaid.” Anyone signed on the 1st day of FA looks “overpaid” ... the cap keeps going up and the FA class isn’t spectacular this year so  there are a lot of eyebrow raising contracts. Each player has a certain value to the team that signs him. Why the angst?

They remember when bread was a nickel and forget about the ever rising cap and inflation.  

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1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

It's a good thing you're asking this question, OP. The whole thread dedicated to this didn't once ask about his contract numbers.

 

I found it very helpful to be able to review posts addressing only this issue.  Much more efficient than scrolling through the original thread, which was not terribly helpful on this point.  I will be the first to admit that I don't understand the specific TBD policy on this.

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2 hours ago, BrotherChazz said:

No conspiracy theories or anything, but it really is very curious as to why his numbers aren't out there yet. It seems pretty common place for numbers to Leak out within minutes of someone signing, so we are we so far removed from landing a big FA without having his numbers? It's just strange at this point. 

 

We signed him on the barter system obvs. 

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I'm thinking the Bills would like to keep it quite so they can continue to fish in the FA pond, without tipping how much cap room they have left.   

 

Don't want to scare off a prospect who might think they don't have any more money to spend...

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Full Breakdown:

Star Lotulelei's five-year deal with Buffalo is worth $50 million with $25 million guaranteed. He gets a $13M signing bonus. He gets base salaries of $3.5M (fully guaranteed) in 2018, $7.15M (all guaranteed for injury, $2M fully guaranteed at signing, another $5.15M guaranteed if on roster fifth day of 2019) in 2019, $6.25 million ($1.35M guaranteed for injury only) in 2020, $6.5 million in 2021 and $6.5 million in 2022. He gets roster bonuses of $1M in 2019, 2021 and 2022 and $500,000 in 2020 — all due fifth day of league year. He also gets 46-man roster bonuses of $31,250 per game from 2018 through 2022. There are workout bonuses of $100,000 in 2018 and $250,000 from 2019-22.

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The Bills clearly structured Star Lotulelei's deal to take advantage of their more advantageous salary-cap situation in 2019. His salary-cap number is a manageable $6.7 million in 2018 before ballooning to $11.5 million in 2019. He then counts $10.1 million in 2020, $10.85 million in 2021 and $10.85 million in 2022.

i?img=%2Fi%2Fcolumnists%2Ffull%2Frodak_mike.png&w=80&h=80&scale=cropMike Rodak, ESPN Staff Writer
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