The Bills Blog Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Does this sound like a franchise QB to you? This profile from NFL.com is downright scary. Durability is a concern. Carries slight build and has had injury issues dating back to high school. Carries ball low in pocket with slight upward pre-throw hitch. Too casual in pocket set-up. Decision making and post-snap reads are inconsistent. Refuses easy throws at times. Arm talent and strength are below average. May need to make greater effort to drive field and seam throws. Poor career deep ball completion rate. Excess air under ball allows challenges. Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top. Needs better anticipation. Poor mobility. Struggles to elude early pressure. Completed just 42.4 percent of his throws when forced to move. Too much hero ball. Extends plays and takes unnecessary chances rather than throwing it away. Scouts question his passion for football and whether he will be a willing student. "He wasn't the guy everyone rallied around in college and you don't have to dig around for too long to find people who said he was hard to coach. He's definitely talented. Nobody questions that. But he's going to have to get grown men to buy into him as their leader. That is not a given." -- NFL Executive 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 K Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Maybe Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) Jesus. Did Rosen bang that executives girlfriend or something? Seems pretty harsh Edited March 12, 2018 by billsfan11 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, The Bills Blog said: Does this sound like a franchise QB to you? This profile from NFL.com is downright scary. Durability is a concern. Carries slight build and has had injury issues dating back to high school. Carries ball low in pocket with slight upward pre-throw hitch. Too casual in pocket set-up. Decision making and post-snap reads are inconsistent. Refuses easy throws at times. Arm talent and strength are below average. May need to make greater effort to drive field and seam throws. Poor career deep ball completion rate. Excess air under ball allows challenges. Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top. Needs better anticipation. Poor mobility. Struggles to elude early pressure. Completed just 42.4 percent of his throws when forced to move. Too much hero ball. Extends plays and takes unnecessary chances rather than throwing it away. Scouts question his passion for football and whether he will be a willing student. "He wasn't the guy everyone rallied around in college and you don't have to dig around for too long to find people who said he was hard to coach. He's definitely talented. Nobody questions that. But he's going to have to get grown men to buy into him as their leader. That is not a given." -- NFL Executive I keep calling him Jay Cutler 2.0 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Try a larger font with all caps. 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Lol, that was a fun read. Nothing like killing a buzz! I'm curious what you had to Google to come up w this gem!! "Who else had their girl stolen by Josh Rosen"? "Josh Rosen kicked my dog"? I'm sure it's pretty easy to find +&- on everyone. Personally, i look it up in my own time Edited March 13, 2018 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Wore a !@#$ Trump hat so QB1. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Let me guess, you think this guy sounds better: alls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback. Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes. Benefited from spread scheme that created huge passing windows to throw to. Will see increased importance on post-snap reads. Needs to improve full-field scanning. Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages. Footwork is erratic. Creeps up in pocket towards pressure. Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it. Deep balls hang on him. Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top. Needs to eliminate his back foot throws. Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks. Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, gobills1212 said: Lol, that was a fun read. Nothing like killing a buzz! I'm curious what you had to Google to come up w this gem!! Try "Josh Rosen scouting report" and click on the one from NFL.com... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Mayfield 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Chuck Wagon said: Let me guess, you think this guy sounds better: alls short of size marks for traditional early-round quarterback. Short with drop-down release makes him more susceptible to batted passes. Benefited from spread scheme that created huge passing windows to throw to. Will see increased importance on post-snap reads. Needs to improve full-field scanning. Can be thrown off rhythm by delayed blitz packages and disguised coverages. Footwork is erratic. Creeps up in pocket towards pressure. Ball placement wanes when he tries to gun it. Deep balls hang on him. Can't afford any delay in deep release to beat safety over the top. Needs to eliminate his back foot throws. Desire to make plays will lead to unnecessary sacks. Has to prove he can reign in and control on-field edge and cockiness. No, actually. I like Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I think Mayfield has to be the pick. Fiery Leader Accountable Winner Uncanny Accuracy This is the guy, I'm sure of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 He is a train wreck, I 'm not sure why people are all over him. His combine was a huge awakening for a lot of media and scouts. I was listening to the Simms and Lefkoe podcast today and they were destroying him. They didn't understand how a QB go 1 for 6 on out routes in shorts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The OP forgot to include this part from the NFL.com draft profile: STRENGTHS Tennis prodigy with impeccable footwork and delivery balance. Plays with excellent coordination between eyes and feet. Gets head around quickly on play-fakes. Has experience under center. Anchors in pocket and doesn't creep around needlessly. Trusts his protection and doesn't take eyes of targets when pressure mounts from the edge. Climbs pocket when appropriate. Willing to stand and deliver in face of pressure. Completed 63 percent of his passes when blitzed in 2017. Accuracy totals negatively impacted by 31 receiver drops this year. Holds his water in pocket. Mechanics are terrific. Rarely over-strides and throws with consistently bent front knee. Throwing motion and follow-through are effortless. Extremely confident and intelligent. Throws receivers open. Might be best back shoulder thrower in the game. Shows ability to speed up operation time for move to next level. Very good usage of shoulder fakes and hitches to move defenders or buy additional time for receivers to uncover. Touch passer who can throw feathers when needed. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/josh-rosen?id=2560059 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just leave this here.... http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/203116571.html/ 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Rosen is smart though. I think there is no chance he busts, he may be a disappointment, he may never be a franchise QB, but I think he is starter material. I don't like his attitude, no fire, no competitive attitude. Which is why I'm all in on Mayfield, he is all heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: No, actually. I like Darnold. This sounds like a set up... Edit** actually on 2nd though... I think this thread needs a poll Edited March 13, 2018 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 nuh-uh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 So on one hand he's a below average thrower and then on the other he's very talented. Whoever wrote this should be fired he/she know nothing. I could google a dozen other reports that say the exact opposite. I take it you don't like him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/02/2018_nfl_draft_josh_rosen_highlights_scouting_report_and_fit_with_buffalo_bills.html I like this one on Rosen better ... lol Or this - Edited March 13, 2018 by BillsFan4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, harv shitz said: I think Mayfield has to be the pick. Fiery Leader Accountable Winner Uncanny Accuracy This is the guy, I'm sure of it. FLAWU? Or... AWFUL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, DFT said: Just leave this here.... http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/203116571.html/ That's great!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: Jesus. Did Rosen bang that executives girlfriend or something? Seems pretty harsh Yep. And rumor has it he went deep, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I knew before I even looked that your post total would be under 25. Geez, thanks for the blast of sunshine, just what we needed around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Interesting. I have a relative who has scouted him in person multiple times for an nfl team and said his frame is of absolutely no concern and he would be #1 QB on his board this year and last year. he is also bigger than Sam Darnold. Edited March 13, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Please go google the draft profiles for Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Rothlesberger, etc. Report back your findings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 mmmkay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Have you watched him play? He looked pretty damn good everytime I saw him. Who do you like better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 He is a good prospect, I would prefer Darnold, but I would be happy with Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanTalbotBills Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, DFT said: Just leave this here.... http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/203116571.html/ I just came on to share this article. No one knows if Rosen will become the next great NFL QB, but scouts/GMs/executives have been wrong plenty of times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, billspro said: He is a good prospect, I would prefer Darnold, but I would be happy with Rosen. I like Darnold too, but Rosen is more polished. Imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Yep. And rumor has it he went deep, too. According to unnamed sources, there may have been a hot tub involved as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The next time we hear Josh Rosen and Bust it will be on Canton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: I knew before I even looked that your post total would be under 25. Geez, thanks for the blast of sunshine, just what we needed around here. Lol, what? How is that relevant in any way? You're so arrogant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, RyanTalbotBills said: I just came on to share this article. No one knows if Rosen will become the next great NFL QB, but scouts/GMs/executives have been wrong plenty of times. There are some really unbelievable prospects in this draft. Rosen is the closest one to “sure thing” for me, aside from Barkley. That’s it. I have no reservations about it whatsoever. My hope is the Bills feel the same way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: Try "Josh Rosen scouting report" and click on the one from NFL.com... Oh... In that case do you have a blog where I can get even more of this content? 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I like Darnold too, but Rosen is more polished. Imo This is my feeling as well. I'd be happy w either and can talk myself into being happy whatever the decision should we be lucky enough to choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: I knew before I even looked that your post total would be under 25. Geez, thanks for the blast of sunshine, just what we needed around here. This is why we need a term or post count threshold for starting new topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I like Darnold too, but Rosen is more polished. Imo What do you like about Darnold? I watch his tape and I can't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Gotta say, I agree with the OP...been saying it for a while now... Rosen’s two concussions to end the season are a MAJOR deal! Even Sal said they compound and become easier to get after you’ve had your first one...I don’t believe Rosen has made it through an entire college season...how would he ever survive a longer, harder hitting NFL season? I could see Rosen bolting from the NFL early if he gets another one or two more concussions...remember, he comes from money and doesn’t need football...he’s gonna wanna make sure his brain is functional to achieve his other aspirations... Edited March 13, 2018 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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