Why is Baker Mayfield getting the least amount of buzz?

[transplantbillsfan]

I want him... bad.

 

No one else?

 

I go through 3 pages on the Stadium Wall expecting some thread title indicating people are talking about how much they want Mayfield.

 

Nothing.

 

Even the national narrative is somehow focusing most of its discussion at the Combine on Rosen's question marks, Jackson's up and down performance, and Allen's stellar performance.

 

But very little discussion about Baker Mayfield's stock going up. 

 

I was listening to the Cowturd show this morning and he had a guest on who said he spoke with a couple NFL GMs after the weekend and one told him that Mayfield just absolutely blew him away in the interview portion. 

 

Plus, maybe behind Allen, Mayfield looked the best in passing drills at the Combine.

 

Yet, very little talk about him.

 

Why?

 

Is the issue with him more his height or his immaturity?

 

If it's his height, measuring in at 6' 5/8" seems just fine.  He seems to have great pocket awareness, anyway and is able to find throwing lanes.

 

If it's his maturity, I actually love his attitude.  He's made mistakes, but the guy just comes off as the perfect leader of a team as long as you've got some veterans on the team and a good coach to help guide him.

 

 

I'll be happy if we get Rosen or Darnold or Jackson.  Stay the hell away from Allen.

 

But can we please please please just go up and get Mayfield!

[offyourocker]

Because he is our pick.  They are keeping it quiet and letting out rumors about all other QBs

[SoTier]

Maybe he looked even shorter next to Allen, so the other teams lost interest in him and he'll slide to where the Bills have a realistic shot to trade up for him.  NFL guys really don't like short QBs which is why they all passed on Russell Wilson to chase after Brock Osweiler.  Mayfield seems to be a real gamer who will do whatever he needs to do to win ... and he seems to play clutch, too.  Big guys who can chuck the ball a mile when they're wearing shorts and/or red jerseys are a dime a dozen.  Potential NFL QBs, not nearly so plentiful.

 

Mayfield is the only one of this crop of QBs I'd trade up myself.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Shhhhhhhhh....

[transplantbillsfan]

5 minutes ago, offyourocker said:

Because he is our pick.  They are keeping it quiet and letting out rumors about all other QBs

 

Good God I hope so!  

[ddaryl]

lack of buzz IMO means lots of teams playing Mayfield cards close to the chest.

 

Of course he himself has not done enough mouth running or recent off the field actions to create that negative buzz. I think that's why so hush hush.

 

He was solid on the field and solid at the combine....

[MJS]

If you want him, the best news is no news. You don't want his stock to rise.

[H2o]

The Browns, Broncos, Jets, and possibly the Dolphins are looking at QB's right now. That is likely Rosen, Darnold, Allen,  and Mayfield right there. It's going to take a leap of faith to get our QB. If Mayfield were to drop to 10 and we could swing something with Oakland I would be ecstatic. We could make that trade and still keep one of our other 1st Round picks by sending them a 2nd and our 3rd. 

Edited March 5, 2018 by H2o

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

He will drop out of the top 10 for sure, their are going to be around 7 CB's taken in the 1st rd. I can see Darnold and Rosen in the top 10, after that I could see us having our choice of Mayfield, Allen or Rudolph. The talent pool in this draft is very close from pick 7 to pick 30, our two 1st rd picks are very valuable this year.

[RyanC883]

2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

He will drop out of the top 10 for sure, their are going to be around 7 CB's taken in the 1st rd. I can see Darnold and Rosen in the top 10, after that I could see us having our choice of Mayfield, Allen or Rudolph. The talent pool in this draft is very close from pick 7 to pick 30, our two 1st rd picks are very valuable this year.

 

if Mayfield drops out of the top (or even 8) I will be thrilled.  Neither Oakland nor 49ers need a QB.  We could likely swing a trade that keeps our other first rounder in that scenario.  

[jr1]

Trapasso has Baker at 6 in his latest mock. 

[Coach Tuesday]

6 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

He will drop out of the top 10 for sure

 

Nope.

[kickedface]

yeah i would really like if he drops to the 21 or 22 pick.  now i don't know about his mechanics and all that, but he's super competitive which i like. reminds me as far as that fire is concerned of a young jimbo, even the character concerns. don't blow me up because i made the comparison. 

[transplantbillsfan]

13 minutes ago, H2o said:

The Browns, Broncos, Jets, and possibly the Dolphins are looking at QB's right now. That is likely Rosen, Darnold, Allen,  and Mayfield right there. It's going to take a leap of faith to get our QB. If Mayfield were to drop to 10 and we could swing something with Oakland I would be ecstatic. We could make that trade and still keep one of our other 1st Round picks by sending them a 2nd and our 3rd. 

 

Some of what I've heard/read is that after this weekend the top 3 guys are Rosen, Darnold, and Allen who has propelled himself up into discussion as the top pick.

 

It's just unfathomable to me.

 

 

I'm so freakin confused that people aren't talking more about Mayfield.  He's the only QB of this bunch that I'll be 100% ecstatic in getting with really no reservations.  I'll be pumped about the other guys, but Rosen's attitude/durability scares me, Darnold's propensity for turnovers and rather underwhelming 2017 season scares me, and Jackson's playing style combined with injury risk scares me.

 

Mayfield, to me, really just seems like the most sure thing of the bunch at QB.  The guy is just a winner who loves the game and has a massive chip on his shoulder.

 

Love that!

[Chicken Boo]

I don't know about you guys, but when I think of a high character Beane/McDermott guy, I think Baker Mayfield.

[Boatdrinks]

I like Mayfield, he's one of my favorite players in this draft. I'd be pretty ecstatic if the Bills got him. Not for three first round picks minds you. Hopefully they can make a deal that's fair and not hamper their ability to build a roster too greatly. He's the only one of these QBs that has " off field issues" and he's not 6"1. ( not many first round QBs are that short)He's taken few snaps from under center, and looked a bit awkward doing so. His combine was ok. That's probably the reason for the lack of hype. 

[jrober38]

Because he's not 6'5, 235 pounds with a bazooka for an arm. 

 

I love that people are going nuts for Josh Allen despite his horrendous accuracy. Means one of the other QBs might slide. 

[teef]

i've heard he's riddled with herpes.  

[John from Riverside]

46 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

I want him... bad.

 

No one else?

 

I go through 3 pages on the Stadium Wall expecting some thread title indicating people are talking about how much they want Mayfield.

 

Nothing.

 

Even the national narrative is somehow focusing most of its discussion at the Combine on Rosen's question marks, Jackson's up and down performance, and Allen's stellar performance.

 

But very little discussion about Baker Mayfield's stock going up. 

 

I was listening to the Cowturd show this morning and he had a guest on who said he spoke with a couple NFL GMs after the weekend and one told him that Mayfield just absolutely blew him away in the interview portion. 

 

Plus, maybe behind Allen, Mayfield looked the best in passing drills at the Combine.

 

Yet, very little talk about him.

 

Why?

 

Is the issue with him more his height or his immaturity?

 

If it's his height, measuring in at 6' 5/8" seems just fine.  He seems to have great pocket awareness, anyway and is able to find throwing lanes.

 

If it's his maturity, I actually love his attitude.  He's made mistakes, but the guy just comes off as the perfect leader of a team as long as you've got some veterans on the team and a good coach to help guide him.

 

 

I'll be happy if we get Rosen or Darnold or Jackson.  Stay the hell away from Allen.

 

But can we please please please just go up and get Mayfield!

I am actually hoping that it is Mayfield so that you and some of the other polar opposites from you can have some common ground to agree upon.

 

May well end up being the best QB in this draft.

[H2o]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Some of what I've heard/read is that after this weekend the top 3 guys are Rosen, Darnold, and Allen who has propelled himself up into discussion as the top pick.

 

It's just unfathomable to me.

 

 

I'm so freakin confused that people aren't talking more about Mayfield.  He's the only QB of this bunch that I'll be 100% ecstatic in getting with really no reservations.  I'll be pumped about the other guys, but Rosen's attitude/durability scares me, Darnold's propensity for turnovers and rather underwhelming 2017 season scares me, and Jackson's playing style combined with injury risk scares me.

 

Mayfield, to me, really just seems like the most sure thing of the bunch at QB.  The guy is just a winner who loves the game and has a massive chip on his shoulder.

 

Love that!

I'm on record saying Mayfield is my guy. He can read defenses, he looks off Safties in most instances, he can throw accurately to every level of the field, he is mobile enough to scramble when needed, and he is passionate about the game. He's a winner and he's clutch. He'd look great in a Bills' uni. 

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

I don't know about you guys, but when I think of a high character Beane/McDermott guy, I think Baker Mayfield.

Lol. I do think that Mayfield has good character and qualities, but he's a bit immature in some ways. It's an issue, but he's not exactly punching girls in the face or anything. He has a competitive fire that is undeniable. I like the guy and would take him on the Bills. I don't think they've DQ'd him at all. 

Edited March 5, 2018 by Boatdrinks

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

Lol. I do think that Mayfield has good character and qualities, but he's a bit immature in some ways. It's an issue, but he's not exactly punching girls in the face or anything. He has a competitive fire that is undeniable. I like the guy and would take him on the Bills. I don't think they've DQ'd him at all. 

It would cost less in a trade up to get him.

[KDIGGZ]

I thought he was going to take charge and be a leader at the combine like he did at the senior bowl. He was pretty quiet. Not sure if that was intentional or not. Their plan might have been to fly under the radar and let your arm do the talking. I think it was a bad move because nobody's arm is going to compare to Josh Allen's so what does Mayfield have that Allen doesn't? That's what he should have showed at the combine

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I have 3 words 

off field issues    -  he even resembles JFF 

 

Mayfield was arrested in February on charges of charges of public intoxication, disorderly conduct and fleeing and resisting arrest

Edited March 5, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan

[somnus00]

I have been a critic of Mayfield. I don't like him as a QB. Not that I wish him a bad career. Hopefully for him, I'm wrong (unless he plays for the Pats, Fins, or Jets).

 

But what I see is a great college QB that won't translate well to the NFL. My opinion of him went up a little at first when I saw his interview with Mariucci. He seems to have football smarts. But watching him at the podium in front of the press dropped my opinion of him again.

 

Yes, he's a fighter and a competitor. But he also came off as a bit of a douche. Maybe it's just my impression, but when he told reporters that he lifted up the play of the whole team...eh. That's one of those things that you let others say about you. Not something that you say yourself. That isn't the only reason I don't want to draft him.

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

I thought he was going to take charge and be a leader at the combine like he did at the senior bowl. He was pretty quiet. Not sure if that was intentional or not. Their plan might have been to fly under the radar and let your arm do the talking. I think it was a bad move because nobody's arm is going to compare to Josh Allen's so what does Mayfield have that Allen doesn't? That's what he should have showed at the combine

There was actually more of that even

 

Lamar Jackson could have had everybody buzzing about his athletism  but chose to only throw

 

A gutsy call in my opinion

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I remember the 2012 draft and wanting Russell Wilson in the 1st rd. He only dropped because of his height, if you watched him play you knew he was going to be a good QB. I remember being at a Mustangs game watching Jimmy G and just being blown away. Derek Carr is another QB that I wanted in the 1st rd, I would say that all 3 of the QB's that I mentioned are better than any of the QB's in this draft. I would say there is a very good chance Mayfield, Allen and Rudolph could be there when we pick at 21.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Because God wants him to come here.

 

 

[H2o]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I have 3 words 

off field issues    -  he even resembles JFF 

 

Mayfield was arrested in February on charges of charges of public intoxication, disorderly conduct and fleeing and resisting arrest

Can you imagine what the stories would have been like about the early 90's Bills players had social media been around back then? College kids do dumb sh*t all the time, especially when alcohol is involved. Hell, I did a bunch of dumb sh*t without alcohol involved or a college campus for that matter. He'll be fine. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Love the fu man chu btw.

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, H2o said:

Can you imagine what the stories would have been like about the early 90's Bills players had social media been around back then? College kids do dumb sh*t all the time, especially when alcohol is involved. Hell, I did a bunch of dumb sh*t without alcohol involved or a college campus for that matter. He'll be fine. 

Doing dumbshit and getting arrested are somewhat different.    

 

I did a lot of things in the 70', 80's and 90's and never got arrested.  

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Doing dumbshit and getting arrested are somewhat different.    

 

I did a lot of things in the 70', 80's and 90's and never got arrested.  

Kudos to you my friend. I did dumb sh*t and got arrested, but nothing as serious as it could have been at certain points. 

[Fadingpain]

6 minutes ago, H2o said:

Can you imagine what the stories would have been like about the early 90's Bills players had social media been around back then? College kids do dumb sh*t all the time, especially when alcohol is involved. Hell, I did a bunch of dumb sh*t without alcohol involved or a college campus for that matter. He'll be fine. 

There were a lot of stories floating around in those days even without social media!

They moved through traditional word of mouth/eyewitness channels.

 

Bruce Smith, for example, was a real punk very early on in his career.  He really matured/developed over his time  with the Bills, though, and seeing him now is like seeing a different person entirely.

 

Anyway, the Superbowl Bills teams were running around, having fun, and getting into trouble constantly! 

 

 

[ddaryl]

19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I have 3 words 

off field issues    -  he even resembles JFF 

 

 

Mayfield was arrested in February on charges of charges of public intoxication, disorderly conduct and fleeing and resisting arrest

 

 

 

That was last year.. Feburary 2017. Disorderly conduct,  public intoxication. That was every single Friday and Saturday night for me when I was his age.

 

if the cops came you bet we ran.

Edited March 5, 2018 by ddaryl

[Mat68]

11 minutes ago, H2o said:

Can you imagine what the stories would have been like about the early 90's Bills players had social media been around back then? College kids do dumb sh*t all the time, especially when alcohol is involved. Hell, I did a bunch of dumb sh*t without alcohol involved or a college campus for that matter. He'll be fine. 

Mayfield knows what era he lives in so the comparison to the 80s and 90s is pointless.  Small not overly athletic with off the field concerns is why I would not draft him in rd 1.  

[DallasMac]

21 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I remember the 2012 draft and wanting Russell Wilson in the 1st rd. He only dropped because of his height, if you watched him play you knew he was going to be a good QB. I remember being at a Mustangs game watching Jimmy G and just being blown away. Derek Carr is another QB that I wanted in the 1st rd, I would say that all 3 of the QB's that I mentioned are better than any of the QB's in this draft. I would say there is a very good chance Mayfield, Allen and Rudolph could be there when we pick at 21.

Rudolph I see but I don't think there is any chance that Allen and Mayfield are there.  

[Nineforty]

The conviction (negative or positive) of some on a specific player is comedic to me.  Yes, I'm that guy. Willfully acknowledging I have convictions about people having convictions.

 

[BillsSbSoon]

39 minutes ago, kickedface said:

yeah i would really like if he drops to the 21 or 22 pick.  now i don't know about his mechanics and all that, but he's super competitive which i like. reminds me as far as that fire is concerned of a young jimbo, even the character concerns. don't blow me up because i made the comparison. 

No i see kelly in him too in that regard and have been saying the same thing. Favre too, even though hes not as naturally talented as those guys. But people are going to rally around baker

[ColoradoBills]

Not being a big college football fan, I am just getting to know these QBs.

To me so far, they all got warts.  I don't see any "sure thing" QB's.

History could show all of the Big 4 being great to not so good except Allen whose talent is boom or bust.

 

What I see so far on Mayfield is pretty good QB play.  His height is an issue, the question would be is he able to play around that.

The "off field" stuff is nothing too bad but would definitely need to be addressed in depth during the interviews by Beane.

 

Mayfield's "warts" are not a deal breaker from where I sit.

Question is, how much "treasure" would you be willing to use to go get him?

I don't have the answer to that, or for any of the others, truth be told.

[1billsfan]

I just get the feeling that Cousins will sign with the Vikings...Darnold, Rosen and Allen are gone by pick #6...leaving the Jets making a big splash and picking Mayfield. They need a QB, they want attention, they want to stick it to whoever the Giants picked as their QB over Mayfield.

 

Not looking good for the Bills drafting their starting QB, so that may be why we're hearing some Foles trade rumors. Not necessarily a bad thing btw given how chaotic the QB evaluations and rankings have been.

 

 

Edited March 5, 2018 by 1billsfan