Doc Brown Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Oh, Hillary..... She still thinks Comey cost her the election. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prickly Pete Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 43 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Oh, Hillary..... She still thinks Comey cost her the election. Well, she still thinks she can convince people that it cost her the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I defend the rule of law. Full stop. You're advocating for tyranny. I'm advocating the import of the process. You're advocating outcome at all cost. I'm advocating for a long term, peaceful solution to the problem. You're advocating for a fascist dictatorship empowered to crush it's political enemies. Id rather be on my side. Sure. Me too. But I do so want to see some high profile bare buttocks in the stocks getting a sound whipping with a willow branch for all to see. And see so much that they can never unsee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 6 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I'm advocating for a long term, peaceful solution to the problem. Best of luck with that. Hope your way is able to overcome this nation’s domestic enemies...of which there are legions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Oh, Hillary..... She still thinks Comey cost her the election. Comey. And Russia. Comey and Russia cost her the Election And Racism And Sexism. Comey, Russia, Racism, and Sexism cost her the Election And the Media. Comey, Russia, Racism, Sexism, and a biased right wing media cost her the Election And this ashtray And this paddle game. Comey, Russia, Racism, Sexism, a biased right wing media, the ashtray, and the paddle game cost Hiliary the Election And this remote control. Comey, Russia, Racism, Sexism, a biased right wing media, and these matches Comey, Russia, Racism, Sexism, a biased right wing media, the ashtray, the paddle game, the remote control, and these matches cost Hiliary the Election And this lamp. Comey, Russia, Racism, Sexism, a biased right wing media, the ashtray, the paddle game, the remote control, these matches, and this lamp cost Hiliary the Election And this magazine And the chair. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 6 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I defend the rule of law. Full stop. You're advocating for tyranny. I'm advocating the import of the process. You're advocating outcome at all cost. I'm advocating for a long term, peaceful solution to the problem. You're advocating for a fascist dictatorship empowered to crush it's political enemies. Id rather be on my side. Forgive him. He fell victim to the little people fallacy. He didn't use terms like full stop or import of the process at all. You did. You win. I'm just wondering how the refusal to prosecute obvious crimes is less tyrannical than overzealous prosecution. It seems to be both things are happening now while you maintain the imaginary moral high ground. In a practical sense, do you see anyone taking action from the moral high ground or just people flapping their gums? Is it fair to be frustrated with this or is it better to spout platitudes? Should we sit by and watch the system burn from one side while pondering the tyranny of the other as long as we use as many syllables as possible? Let me know after class what your professor thinks I mean what you think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 hours ago, DC Tom said: Easily a fireable offense. Feds take that **** extremely seriously. Unless it is Mitch McConnell or Diane Feinstein using their office to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. That is just part of the process. But an FBI agent playing golf? OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: This is sad because it would have been true if Hillary had been elected. I may still end up true, but I have a slim hope of not... And it certainly calls into question all past testimony from this agent. I wonder how many people with convictions will be filing appeals after this mess shakes out? Just wanted to bump this actual text conversation as it's completely damning to the argument of no bias. I agree with DR that even the finer wording of the "no bias" summary may have been edited by DOJ. Unless this witness or Hilary was prosecuted, and we know that answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: Just wanted to bump this actual text conversation as it's completely damning to the argument of no bias. I agree with DR that even the finer wording of the "no bias" summary may have been edited by DOJ. Unless this witness or Hilary was prosecuted, and we know that answer. Silly peasant laws are for you, not them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 So the FBI handed The presidency to a Putin puppet. And no one should be surprised that a report showing the FBI helped Trump turned around by the Trump cultists into a plot against Trump. So goes the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So the FBI handed The presidency to a Putin puppet. And no one should be surprised that a report showing the FBI helped Trump turned around by the Trump cultists into a plot against Trump. So goes the world You are a fool. The 2016 US Presidential election was a failed Bill and Hillary Clinton scam. Bill and Hillary Clinton first got rid of VP Joe Biden's 2016 Presidential aspirations. Then they whittled down the other 2016 Presidential Democrat candidates but they couldn't get rid of Bernie Sanders. So they deployed DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to screw Bernie Sanders in the Democrat Primaries. Until she got caught via Wikileaks. Then Bill and Hillary Clinton persuaded/begged/duped Donald Trump to fraudulently run for President as a Republican. Hillary Clinton had historically high negativity numbers so both she and Bill Clinton knew the only way to the White House for Hillary Clinton is via election scam. Wake up, Tiberius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I defend the rule of law. Full stop. You're advocating for tyranny. I'm advocating the import of the process. You're advocating outcome at all cost. I'm advocating for a long term, peaceful solution to the problem. You're advocating for a fascist dictatorship empowered to crush it's political enemies. Id rather be on my side. How can you have due process when the accussed are so powerful, that laws don't apply to them? In a perfect world, what you stated, makes perfect sense. But in the real world everything isn't so black and white. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the country when the guilty are so powerful that nothing can touch them. We wouldn't be a free nation if we never went to war with england. Sometimes the law isn't working. Changes have to be made. People need to pay for the crimes they committed. I'm not advocating violence in any way. It's never the answer. I'm just afraid they will find a scapegoat to take the fall and the guilty will walk away. I've seen to much of that in my lifetime to think that laws will protect us. They don't, unless you have money or power. It really sickens me...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said: You are a fool. The 2016 US Presidential election was a failed Bill and Hillary Clinton scam. Bill and Hillary Clinton first got rid of VP Joe Biden's 2016 Presidential aspirations. Then they whittled down the other 2016 Presidential Democrat candidates but they couldn't get rid of Bernie Sanders. So they deployed DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to screw Bernie Sanders in the Democrat Primaries. Until she got caught via Wikileaks. Then Bill and Hillary Clinton persuaded/begged/duped Donald Trump to fraudulently run for President as a Republican. Hillary Clinton had historically high negativity numbers so both she and Bill Clinton knew the only way to the White House for Hillary Clinton is via election scam. Wake up, Tiberius. The IG report is pretty clear. The FBI put Putin puppet in the WH. Very dark episode in American history we are living through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, westside said: How can you have due process when the accussed are so powerful, that laws don't apply to them? In a perfect world, what you stated, makes perfect sense. But in the real world everything isn't so black and white. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the country when the guilty are so powerful that nothing can touch them. We wouldn't be a free nation if we never went to war with england. Sometimes the law isn't working. Changes have to be made. People need to pay for the crimes they committed. I'm not advocating violence in any way. It's never the answer. I'm just afraid they will find a scapegoat to take the fall and the guilty will walk away. I've seen to much of that in my lifetime to think that laws will protect us. They don't, unless you have money or power. It really sickens me...... I'm afraid he is falling victim to the IthinkIamWillamFBuckleybutIamreallyRobinWilliamsCharacterizationofWilliamFBuckley fallacy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The IG Report Shows That The Fix Was In From Start Of The Clinton Email Investigation Original Article . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The IG report is pretty clear. The FBI put Putin puppet in the WH. Very dark episode in American history we are living through No. Hillary Clinton was simply un-electable. People hate her. The Clintons knew that so they needed someone worse than Hillary Clinton to run against. Bill Clinton calls longtime friend and fellow New York Democrat Donald Trump. The IG report and future reports will show how greedy and selfish Bill and Hillary Clinton really are. It will also show how stupid, boorish, incompetent and sloppy the Clintons are, too. The Clintons are cheap Arkansas hucksters - nothing more. Bill and Hillary Clinton are a disaster for anyone that they come near. All the Clintons do is ruin lives for everyone. FBI agents, DOJ agents, Obama, news media, et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said: No. Hillary Clinton was simply un-electable. People hate her. The Clintons knew that so they needed someone worse than Hillary Clinton to run against. Bill Clinton calls longtime friend and fellow New York Democrat Donald Trump. The IG report and future reports will show how greedy and selfish Bill and Hillary Clinton really are. It will also show how stupid, boorish, incompetent and sloppy the Clintons are, too. The Clintons are cheap Arkansas hucksters - nothing more. Bill and Hillary Clinton are a disaster for anyone that they come near. All the Clintons do is ruin lives for everyone. FBI agents, DOJ agents, Obama, news media, et al. Did you see the NYAG has sued Trump over how corrupt his "charity" is? It is yet another totally fraudulent enterprise of Trump. They are completely corrupt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Did you see the NYAG has sued Trump over how corrupt his "charity" is? It is yet another totally fraudulent enterprise of Trump. They are completely corrupt Wow, the highly respected NYAG's office. I bet they B word slap Trump. B word slapping is their gig. Edited June 15, 2018 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Wow, the highly respected NYAG's office. I bet they B word slap Trump. B word slapping is their gig. So you don't care it was just a cash machine for all his corrupt activities? Just bash law enforcement and pray to Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you don't care it was just a cash machine for all his corrupt activities? Just bash law enforcement and pray to Trump What do you mean? I was agreeing with you. The NY AG will choke all corruption out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Wow, the highly respected NYAG's office. I bet they B word slap Trump. B word slapping is their gig. Spitzer..cuomo...schneiderman...skelos...silver and on and on it goes. Let's take bets on the new AG. i predict she was a drug mule foe El Chappo. this state is a rats nest of corruption, but yeah, trumps foundation is the problem in 2007. Edited June 15, 2018 by leh-nerd skin-erd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 30 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said: No. Hillary Clinton was simply un-electable. People hate her. The Clintons knew that so they needed someone worse than Hillary Clinton to run against. Bill Clinton calls longtime friend and fellow New York Democrat Donald Trump. The IG report and future reports will show how greedy and selfish Bill and Hillary Clinton really are. It will also show how stupid, boorish, incompetent and sloppy the Clintons are, too. The Clintons are cheap Arkansas hucksters - nothing more. Bill and Hillary Clinton are a disaster for anyone that they come near. All the Clintons do is ruin lives for everyone. FBI agents, DOJ agents, Obama, news media, et al. I have to disagree. You can't become president if you're a cheap huckster...oh, wait....never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, westside said: How can you have due process when the accussed are so powerful, that laws don't apply to them? In a perfect world, what you stated, makes perfect sense. But in the real world everything isn't so black and white. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the country when the guilty are so powerful that nothing can touch them. We wouldn't be a free nation if we never went to war with england. Sometimes the law isn't working. Changes have to be made. People need to pay for the crimes they committed. I'm not advocating violence in any way. It's never the answer. I'm just afraid they will find a scapegoat to take the fall and the guilty will walk away. I've seen to much of that in my lifetime to think that laws will protect us. They don't, unless you have money or power. It really sickens me...... This is exactly what he doesn't understand or possibly doesn't CARE about. That the "rule of law" in this country has been a sham for going on three decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So you don't care it was just a cash machine for all his corrupt activities? Just bash law enforcement and pray to Trump Trump and his charity aren't being charged with anything criminal. The AG is saying there was a misuse of funds and wants to fine them. They'll look at the books and make a determination. They aren't guilty yet. Now if Michael Cohen somehow represents Trump in this it'll be quite a sideshow for ya, but that's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Trump and his charity aren't being charged with anything criminal. The AG is saying there was a misuse of funds and wants to fine them. They'll look at the books and make a determination. They aren't guilty yet. Now if Michael Cohen somehow represents Trump in this it'll be quite a sideshow for ya, but that's not happening. This is important to understand. Strictly a civil law matter. The left needs to tone down any "criminal" rhetoric they may be tempted to spout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Unless it is Mitch McConnell or Diane Feinstein using their office to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. That is just part of the process. But an FBI agent playing golf? OMG Technically, Congress is not "feds," and not subject to the same rules. 9 minutes ago, K-9 said: The left needs to tone down any "criminal" rhetoric they may be tempted to spout. A vocal portion of the left thinks free speech is criminal. So I don't think that's happening any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, K-9 said: This is important to understand. Strictly a civil law matter. The left needs to tone down any "criminal" rhetoric they may be tempted to spout. Good luck with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, PearlHowardman said: Then Bill and Hillary Clinton persuaded/begged/duped Donald Trump to fraudulently run for President as a Republican. This is the part I don't buy. I think someone convinced Trump to run for president. I don't think it was the Clinton camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: This is the part I don't buy. I think someone convinced Trump to run for president. I don't think it was the Clinton camp. it was Obama mocking him, i really believe that was half the decision Trump made deciding to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: So the FBI handed The presidency to a Putin puppet. And no one should be surprised that a report showing the FBI helped Trump turned around by the Trump cultists into a plot against Trump. So goes the world 2 hours ago, PearlHowardman said: You are a fool. The 2016 US Presidential election was a failed Bill and Hillary Clinton scam. Bill and Hillary Clinton first got rid of VP Joe Biden's 2016 Presidential aspirations. Then they whittled down the other 2016 Presidential Democrat candidates but they couldn't get rid of Bernie Sanders. So they deployed DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to screw Bernie Sanders in the Democrat Primaries. Until she got caught via Wikileaks. Then Bill and Hillary Clinton persuaded/begged/duped Donald Trump to fraudulently run for President as a Republican. Hillary Clinton had historically high negativity numbers so both she and Bill Clinton knew the only way to the White House for Hillary Clinton is via election scam. Wake up, Tiberius. There's a venn diagram to be drawn here, I'm sure of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 ...and a strait jacket to be donned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, Bob in Mich said: ...and a strait jacket to be donned. ...and pot to be smoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Anecdotal of nothing... my sister was an IRS revenue agent. They could not accept a nickel from anyone. ALL second jobs had to be approved before acceptance (no one had a second job). There was never to be any sort of "impropriety" by way of accepting anything of any value from anyone. Breaking these rules was at minimum a firing offense. I cannot imagine the FBI, DOJ, etc do not have similar rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, B-Man said: The IG Report Shows That The Fix Was In From Start Of The Clinton Email Investigation Original Article . Quote The report also notes that the reasons given for why the FBI sat on news about Anthony Weiner's laptop for almost a month were totally unconvincing. One of them was that FBI resources had been redirected to the Trump-Russia probe. But as the IG notes, the FBI had enough resources to prepare speeches, talking points and other material defending their earlier decision to drop the case. Exactly. Why did they wait until it became an October Surprise? Thanks for posting that. And yet the Trump Cult claims the FBI was biased against them?? Give me a break. 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: ...and pot to be smoked. Lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Anecdotal of nothing... my sister was an IRS revenue agent. They could not accept a nickel from anyone. ALL second jobs had to be approved before acceptance (no one had a second job). There was never to be any sort of "impropriety" by way of accepting anything of any value from anyone. Breaking these rules was at minimum a firing offense. I cannot imagine the FBI, DOJ, etc do not have similar rules. Non-anecdotal confirmation: all federal training material stresses this. I think the IRS is more strict than most, but I've never been allowed, in 20+ years, to so much as treat a fed or another contractor to lunch, or vice-versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Non-anecdotal confirmation: all federal training material stresses this. I think the IRS is more strict than most, but I've never been allowed, in 20+ years, to so much as treat a fed or another contractor to lunch, or vice-versa. But that was specific to YOU, right? Do they let you out for lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, westside said: How can you have due process when the accussed are so powerful, that laws don't apply to them? In a perfect world, what you stated, makes perfect sense. But in the real world everything isn't so black and white. Sometimes you need to do what's best for the country when the guilty are so powerful that nothing can touch them. We wouldn't be a free nation if we never went to war with england. Sometimes the law isn't working. Changes have to be made. People need to pay for the crimes they committed. I'm not advocating violence in any way. It's never the answer. I'm just afraid they will find a scapegoat to take the fall and the guilty will walk away. I've seen to much of that in my lifetime to think that laws will protect us. They don't, unless you have money or power. It really sickens me...... To be clear, we're talking about prosecuting journalists. Not toppling the global elite, but actually putting journalists behind bars for what they choose to write. And we're talking about doing this not because the broke the law, but because it appears they broke ethical standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: Wow, the highly respected NYAG's office. I bet they B word slap Trump. B word slapping is their gig. Well, Underwood will make a large show of trying. She's got a hotly contested election coming up to get the AG job full-time, and has to buff up her liberal dipschiff credentials. 11 minutes ago, snafu said: But that was specific to YOU, right? Do they let you out for lunch? There's a reason he's so hangry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Acting state AG Barbara Underwood will be ‘very happy' to hold job until end of the year But Underwood, 73, said she is not interested in seeking to run for a full four-year term in November. "I don't see a chance of that," she said. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-underwood-seeks-hold-ag-job-year-article-1.3982511 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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