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8 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

You have your very own dedicated personal thread for your crap.  Leave it there.

 

Crap?

 

OK, you explain this:  The end of July 2016 Donald Trump overtook Hillary Clinton for the first time in political polls. Things just get worse for Hillary Clinton.  DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is forced to resign after Wikileaks discloses that Wassermsn-Schultz was favoring Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders.  Hillary Clinton is now in political crash-and-burn mode.

 

How does MI/Donald Trump capitalize on this?  

 

MI/Donald Trump changes the subject by asking Russia to release all e-mail they have on Hillary Clinton.  MI/Donald Trump then changes the subject again by engaging the parents of a deceased US Muslim soldier.  Result:  Hillary Clinton soars in political polls and MI/Donald Trump is now in political crash-and-burn mode.

 

I'd love to hear the MI/Donald Trump political strategy here.  All I've ever heard is personal insults.  Not one rational explanation. Not even one irrational explanation.

 

And again, how does Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton asking Donald Trump to run for President factor in all of this MI?  Was Clinton a part of MI?

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24 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Why lock up Trump if he loses?  What's the motive?

 

Twofold: Spite and opsec. 

 

By nature of who was/is behind Trump and what they were trying to accomplish, it'd be safer for her and who's behind her if he was forever toxic. Losing the election and then a criminal trial revealing he was attempting to undermine the republic would assure no one ever took anything he said in future seriously. 

 

But mainly it was spite and her hateful nature. Like Trump, the Clintons enjoy revenge. He's just better at it. 

52 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Why did you leave out the next paragraph?

 

 

 

Exactly.

 

And a side note: As excellent as Carter is on this subject, she's still missing a lot. She's been slow to understand Huber's role and slow to understand that the OIG is going to be far more about FISA than Clinton's emails. The report that's about to drop is just the Clinton email investigation - it'll be detailed and thorough, but will be less damning and lengthy than the other reports Horowitz is finalizing (imo). 

 

10 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

And again, how does Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton asking Donald Trump to run for President factor in all of this MI?  Was Clinton a part of MI?

 

No. He was not. He was one of the primary targets. 

19 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

I've struck up information sharing relationships with a handful of mainstream journos now, and I'm hearing from all of them that they are getting flooding with information over the past 24 hours, all of it on target. 

 

When this happened in the past, and the threat against the plotters were close to breaking through to the mainstream, there has been a violent push back used to distract. So, I'm not saying I know anything (I don't) but it wouldn't hurt to remain extra sharp today and tomorrow, all. :beer:

 

 

Clockwork:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-national-doral-miami-resort-shots-fired-man-police-custody-today-2018-5-18/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/18/texas-high-school-on-lockdown-following-reports-active-shooter.html

 

 

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45 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

 

Crap?

 

OK, you explain this:  The end of July 2016 Donald Trump overtook Hillary Clinton for the first time in political polls. Things just get worse for Hillary Clinton.  DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is forced to resign after Wikileaks discloses that Wassermsn-Schultz was favoring Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders.  Hillary Clinton is now in political crash-and-burn mode.

 

How does MI/Donald Trump capitalize on this?  

 

MI/Donald Trump changes the subject by asking Russia to release all e-mail they have on Hillary Clinton.  MI/Donald Trump then changes the subject again by engaging the parents of a deceased US Muslim soldier.  Result:  Hillary Clinton soars in political polls and MI/Donald Trump is now in political crash-and-burn mode.

 

I'd love to hear the MI/Donald Trump political strategy here.  All I've ever heard is personal insults.  Not one rational explanation. Not even one irrational explanation.

 

And again, how does Bill "Slick Willie" Clinton asking Donald Trump to run for President factor in all of this MI?  Was Clinton a part of MI?

Spreading the crusade, eh?

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2 hours ago, Real News said:

From everyone's favorite news lady...

 

https://saraacarter.com/ig-report-on-clinton-investigation-extremely-long-and-thorough/

 

The Department of Justice Inspector General has sent what is described as an “extremely long and thorough draft” of the much anticipated report on the FBI and DOJ’s investigation and handling of the Hillary Clinton email probe, this reporter has learned. The detailed report on the FBI’s decision making process into the Clinton investigation could lead to possible criminal referrals for some of the officials involved in the case.

 

Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report, which is expected to be released within the next three to four weeks to the public, has been turned over to current and former officials for review, as first reported in The Wall Street Journal and Washington Post.

 

The draft, however, does not include any recommendations for criminal prosecution. If there was any evidence collected by the Inspector General’s office of criminality, Horowitz would then refer the matter to the Department of Justice and submit a criminal referral to prosecutors.

 

You're an intellectual midget.

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2 hours ago, GG said:

 

Why did you leave out the next paragraph?

 

 

 

Thank you for including it.

 

Regardless, Sara's reporting is contradictory to Paul Sperry's tweets from yesterday that multiple people in this forum had meme orgasms over. 

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17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's not though. 

 

Paul said IG Horowitz has found "reasonable grounds" for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ's handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution.

 

Sara said the draft does not include recommendations for criminal prosecution and if there was evidence, it would be referred to the DOJ to submit a criminal referral to prosecutors.

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8 minutes ago, Real News said:

 

Paul said IG Horowitz has found "reasonable grounds" for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ's handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution.

 

Sara said the draft does not include recommendations for criminal prosecution and if there was evidence, it would be referred to the DOJ to submit a criminal referral to prosecutors.

What's shorter than a midget?

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6 minutes ago, Real News said:

 

Paul said IG Horowitz has found "reasonable grounds" for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ's handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution.

 

Sara said the draft does not include recommendations for criminal prosecution and if there was evidence, it would be referred to the DOJ to submit a criminal referral to prosecutors.

 

Incorrect. 

 

 

PS said the IG has referred his findings for criminal prosecution to Huber. That's how the process works. 

 

The report itself is a statement of fact, not opinion. Re-read the McCabe IG report, this will be the same. It's not the IG's job to indict, prosecute, or opine. All that is included in the report are the facts - which then can/must be handed over to a prosecutor before indictments. PS's tweet said that's happened. 

 

Carter's article does not dispute this. 

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Incorrect. 

 

 

PS said the IG has referred his findings for criminal prosecution to Huber. That's how the process works. 

 

The report itself is a statement of fact, not opinion. Re-read the McCabe IG report, this will be the same. It's not the IG's job to indict, prosecute, or opine. All that is included in the report are the facts - which then can/must be handed over to a prosecutor before indictments. PS's tweet said that's happened. 

 

Carter's article does not dispute this. 

 

Agreed - Carter doesn't dispute it. She says something different. 

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Just now, Real News said:

 

Agreed - Carter doesn't dispute it. She says something different. 

 

No, she doesn't - as noted by the paragraph you omitted. You're just misreading what both are saying and are unclear as to how the OIG report works, as is Carter. 

 

 

2 hours ago, GG said:

 

Why did you leave out the next paragraph?

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“It would be up to the Inspector General to make the recommendations but there is an expectation that there will be at least one referral for prosecution,” said a source familiar with the findings, who added that it is not conclusive as the Inspector General’s office never discusses ongoing investigations.

 

 

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Just now, westside said:

Why are progressives so dishonest? 

 

Are Carter and Sperry saying the same thing?

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

No, she doesn't - as noted by the paragraph you omitted. You're just misreading what both are saying and are unclear as to how the OIG report works, as is Carter. 

 

 

 

 

Since we're both unclear she is obviously saying something different than Sperry.

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Just now, Real News said:

 

Are Carter and Sperry saying the same thing?

 

Yes. Carter is just saying it incorrectly.

1 minute ago, Real News said:

 

Are Carter and Sperry saying the same thing?

 

Since we're both unclear she is obviously saying something different than Sperry.

 

She is not disputing PS's tweet. Which is what you started off as saying.

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