Chadwick Bay Chad Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1. Jim Kelly 2. Jack Kemp 3. Doug Flutie 4. Joe Ferguson 5. Daryle Lamonica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vincec Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: 1. Jim Kelly 2. Jack Kemp 3. Doug Flutie 4. Joe Ferguson 5. Daryle Lamonica I’m not sure how you can put Flutie ahead of Ferguson. He has one good season in Buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 according to my dad, Marangi was better than Fergy, just never got a fair shake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadwick Bay Chad Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 In all due respect your dad is wrong. Fergie was underrated U r correct fergie above flutie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 The guy we pick in the next draft has a good shot at jumping near the top of that list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRHater69 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 No way Marangi was a better QB than Ferguson. He was a bigger guy and may have had a slightly better arm, but he started the backend of the '76 season after Fergy got hurt and was terrible. Granted the team was on a downslide at that point, but he did nothing to make any fans believe he was a better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: according to my dad, Marangi was better than Fergy, just never got a fair shake Yikes. Marangi is on my list of five worst. Fergy is underrated by many because he wasn't very good at the beginning of his career when his main duty was to give the ball to OJ. And he wasn't very good at the end of his career when his skills were in decline. But there was a golden middle when he was one of the best QBs in the league. Just thinking of that golden middle, I would rate Fergy ahead of everyone except Kelly. But if we're cherry picking periods, Bledsoe's first half season with the Bills was excellent. 37 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: 1. Jim Kelly 2. Jack Kemp 3. Doug Flutie 4. Joe Ferguson 5. Daryle Lamonica Maybe this isn't entirely fair but here's how I remember Flutie... Flutie would flat out suck for three quarters. But our D was so strong in those days that they'd keep the game close. Then Flutie would do something athletically superhuman in the game in the fourth quarter to put the Bills on top. Great! But why did Flutie have to suck the first three quarters? The D won games in that era, not Dougie. Edited December 9, 2017 by hondo in seattle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 44 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: 1. Jim Kelly 2. Jack Kemp 3. Doug Flutie 4. Joe Ferguson 5. Daryle Lamonica I think Flutie may be the most overrated QB in our history. He did very little, but represent himself well. I would drop him from this list and put Frank Reich at #5. While just a back up, he had performances that changed our history. 1. Jim Kelly 2. Jack Kemp 3. Joe Ferguson (does not get the respect he deserves) 4. Daryle Lamonica 5. Frank Reich 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Travesty that Jeff Tuel or Peterman didn't make this list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I'd put Dennis Shaw in there somewhere. If he had not gotten hurt no telling what he and OJ would have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: according to my dad, Marangi was better than Fergy, just never got a fair shake ....should we bring 'em in?....he's only 65 and promises an AARP discount............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood for Wall of Fame Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Gale Gilbert, only man ever to play on 5 straight Superbowl teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Jim Kelly Jack Kemp Joe Furguson Frank Reich Doug Flutie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 54 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: Travesty that Jeff Tuel or Peterman didn't make this list. Underestimating EJ too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 52 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said: I think Flutie may be the most overrated QB in our history. He did very little, but represent himself well. I would drop him from this list and put Frank Reich at #5. While just a back up, he had performances that changed our history. 1. Jim Kelly 2. Jack Kemp 3. Joe Ferguson (does not get the respect he deserves) 4. Daryle Lamonica 5. Frank Reich ....absolutely agree...he thought he was the greatest invention since beer.....couldn't stand him or his lousy flakes............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Pretty depressing if you ask me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Jim Kelly Jack Kemp Joe Ferguson Drew Bledsoe Frank Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, White Linen said: Pretty depressing if you ask me. .....good Lord PLEASE do not look at the BOTTOM FIVE then......we may not be able to rescue you............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: 1. Jim Kelly 2. Jack Kemp 3. Doug Flutie 4. Joe Ferguson 5. Daryle Lamonica cant argue .. agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Boy... one career back-up... albeit a very good one (Reich)... a guy who had one pretty good year in Buffalo (Flutie)... and a guy who mainly played for another team (Lamonica) on many of the lists here. Completely agree with the sentiment that Joe Ferguson was criminally underrated though. I'd rate him second... behind only Jim Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, Jamie Mueller said: Boy... one career back-up... albeit a very good one (Reich)... a guy who had one pretty good year in Buffalo (Flutie)... and a guy who mainly played for another team (Lamonica) on many of the lists here. Completely agree with the sentiment that Joe Ferguson was criminally underrated though. I'd rate him second... behind only Jim Kelly. ...BUT....how BETTER to state the "State of the QB Position" at OBD post Kelly?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, vincec said: I’m not sure how you can put Flutie ahead of Ferguson. He has one good season in Buffalo. This. That’s just crazy. Ferguson 3rd imo. Bledsoe 4th. 5th doesn’t even matter. Whoever it is wasn’t very good. Reich would get my vote because I never saw Lamonica play. Flutie doesn’t belong 59 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....absolutely agree...he thought he was the greatest invention since beer.....couldn't stand him or his lousy flakes............... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Dunkirk Don said: In all due respect your dad is wrong. Fergie was underrated U r correct fergie above flutie Agreed on Fergy, but we would have probably had a different opinion if Flutie was able to play that TN game and won. Johnson was absolutely awful. Had no. Business on the field when we started I believe 0-3 and we place him back in after Flutie won so many games that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, White Linen said: Pretty depressing if you ask me. Yeah, our top five QB list is awful. We've been much better at drafting/acquiring RBs. Here are some of the contenders for our RB Top Five list in comparison: OJ Thurman Freddy Cookie Joe Cribbs Marshawn Shady Travis Henry Greg Bell Willis McGahee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 ....and the bottom FIVE.... Stephenson Marangi Hobert Nall Edwards ...and a multitude tied for 6th.....too many to list.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 It’s to small of a sample size but Orton is going to be the least appreciated qb in Bills history. That 12 game stretch that he played was the best team of the drought. The guy came off the street with almost no time in the offense, zero running game and a tough schedule only to put up some of the best numbers any Bills qb ever has. If he got that full season in, we were going to make the playoffs. If he got 1 more year in that offense, who knows what we would look like today. Orton wasn’t here long enough to be mentioned with those other guys on that list, but he was a better QB then anyone after Kelly IMO. That was the closest thing we have had to a legit NFL passing offense since real early Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Kelly, Ferguson, Fitzpatrick, Taylor, Bledsoe. I can’t put Kemp on this list because he was a sub .500 completion passer in an era where many passers were above .500 and the fact he was a Terry Bradshaw like beneficiary of being on good teams. Kemp is an admirable leader, but his skills as a passer rank way below the 5 on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 What no frank reich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 If we had Fergie in this team we’d be playing for a bye right now. #2 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Anyone that puts Daryle Lamonica in their top QB’s that ever played in Buffalo is just trying to be cute like they actually know something. The guy completed 42 percent of his passes and had 16 TD’s and 23 INT’s. Let’s end the silly, stupid charade right now. Daryle Lamonica sucked as a Buffalo Bill. SUCKED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Anyone that puts Daryle Lamonica in their top QB’s that ever played in Buffalo is just trying to be cute like they actually know something. The guy completed 42 percent of his passes and had 16 TD’s and 23 INT’s. Let’s end the silly, stupid charade right now. Daryle Lamonica sucked as a Buffalo Bill. SUCKED. ....LMAO BOE......but with a name like the "Mad Bomber", how could you resist?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Kelly, Ferguson, Fitzpatrick, Taylor, Bledsoe. I can’t put Kemp on this list because he was a sub .500 completion passer in an era where many passers were above .500 and the fact he was a Terry Bradshaw like beneficiary of being on good teams. Kemp is an admirable leader, but his skills as a passer rank way below the 5 on this list. I'm not knocking this list, but it is a sad commentary on the Bills organization when our Top Five QBs include two QBs few teams would want as starters (Fitz, TT) and another guy (Bledsoe) who only was good for us for about a half of one season. Another team's list might look something like this: Joe Montana, Y.A. Tittle, Steve Young, John Brodie, Jeff Garcia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Dennis Shaw, pre-injury, would be a lock. If you say Losman, it's a comedy thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Anyone that puts Daryle Lamonica in their top QB’s that ever played in Buffalo is just trying to be cute like they actually know something. The guy completed 42 percent of his passes and had 16 TD’s and 23 INT’s. Let’s end the silly, stupid charade right now. Daryle Lamonica sucked as a Buffalo Bill. SUCKED. This is true. But a number of Bills fans (including my childhood best friend's dad) were mad when Lamonica was traded because they believed the guy was going to develop into something special. Even as a Bill, Lamonica flashed something promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 If your just counting starters it's kind of sad but you can make a case for Fitz in the top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Anyone that puts Daryle Lamonica in their top QB’s that ever played in Buffalo is just trying to be cute like they actually know something. The guy completed 42 percent of his passes and had 16 TD’s and 23 INT’s. Let’s end the silly, stupid charade right now. Daryle Lamonica sucked as a Buffalo Bill. SUCKED. OK. Jim Kelly Daryle Lamonica as a Raider Flutie. That’s all I’ve got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I'm not knocking this list, but it is a sad commentary on the Bills organization when our Top Five QBs include two QBs few teams would want as starters (Fitz, TT) and another guy (Bledsoe) who only was good for us for about a half of one season. Another team's list might look something like this: Joe Montana, Y.A. Tittle, Steve Young, John Brodie, Jeff Garcia. I get your point. The 9ers have arguably the best QBs ever. Try a team like Pittsburgh, Bears, Lions, Browns, and you see long stretches of mediocrity under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 42 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....and the bottom FIVE.... Stephenson Marangi Hobert Nall Edwards ...and a multitude tied for 6th.....too many to list.......... Dan Darraugh didn't make your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I get your point. The 9ers have arguably the best QBs ever. Try a team like Pittsburgh, Bears, Lions, Browns, and you see long stretches of mediocrity under center. ...but for both the Niners & Steelers organizations, it was a combination of many factors......non-meddlesome owners (Rooneys & DeBartolo-NOT implying Pegula is in any way meddlesome), solid football organizations with FOOTBALL people running the show (Colbert has been Steelers GM since 2000; Carmen Policy with Niners; Bflo had 17 years of patchwork unqualifieds), coaches (Steelers have had 3 HC's in the last 48 years; Walsh in Niners land = nuff said).....Niners QB's were as stated leading to 4 Lombardis....Steelers didn't quite have the same pedigree (but kudos to Bradshaw) but still have managed SIX Lombardis.....so two prime examples of clubs that took different paths to the same result......stellar QB's or game managers both worked............ Edited December 9, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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