SaviorPeterman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) But the biggest question is did this order come from the Pegulas? And if so did they also tell McD to bench Taylor for NP a few weeks ago? http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/29/rex-ryan-says-he-was-told-to-bench-tyrod-taylor-last-season-which-led-to-his-firing-bills/ Quote Rex Ryan says he was told to bench Tyrod Taylor last season, which led to his firing By Nick Veronica | Published 9:50 a.m. November 29, 2017 | Updated 20 minutes ago Share Tweet When former Bills coach and current ESPN analyst Rex Ryan was asked Wednesday for his thoughts on the Giants benching quarterback Eli Manning, Ryan responded that it felt similar to the end of last season, when he was "told" to bench quarterback Tyrod Taylor................. Edited November 29, 2017 by SaviorPeterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 We knew this much tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 This was already reported nothing new to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) I was just looking to see if anyone had posted this yet. I didn't find it so I posted it in the "Rex rips McDermott" thread. Looks like we were both posting it at the exact same time OP... lol. Edited November 29, 2017 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Pretty obvious this was the case. Must be pretty embarrassing for Rex to admit. I would have ignored the order. He was a lame duck by that stage anyway, why not stand up for yourself and make the owners fire you then. The writing was on the wall anyway for Rex yet he caves? Makes him seem even more of a loser than I thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I think that was a Whaley decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 That could only come from Whaley or Pegula. I bet Whaley convinced Pegula to tell Ryan to bench him saying that EJ was the man. Well EJ had another **** game which probably what lead to Whaley getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Yes, because of his injury clause. Isn’t that why he got fired before the last game, because he wouldn’t do it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 He was fired because his defensive schemes and designs are out dated.Rex is a bs artist and everybody knows it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Livinginthepast said: Pretty obvious this was the case. Must be pretty embarrassing for Rex to admit. I would have ignored the order. He was a lame duck by that stage anyway, why not stand up for yourself and make the owners fire you then. The writing was on the wall anyway for Rex yet he caves? Makes him seem even more of a loser than I thought! Rex didn't cave. He was fired and then Lynn benched Tyrod. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Rex didn't cave. He was fired and then Lynn benched Tyrod. I should have read the article! I take back my critique of Rex. He is now slightly LESS of a loser than I thought. But was the call Whalley's or the Pegula's? to bench TT. last year? the article does confirm where the order originated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: But the biggest question is did this order come from the Pegulas? And if so did they also tell McD to bench Taylor for NP a few weeks ago? http://buffalonews.com/2017/11/29/rex-ryan-says-he-was-told-to-bench-tyrod-taylor-last-season-which-led-to-his-firing-bills/ It's just click-bait. We all know what was going on last year. It doesn't matter if Terry or Doug made the call. It was a business decision. One that ultimately paid off with a renegotiated contract. Looks like they made the right call to me - based on business, not Tyrod's qualifications as a starting QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 When I think Rex Ryan... I think credibility. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 27 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Rex didn't cave. He was fired and then Lynn benched Tyrod. Are we maybe missing the detail of Rex being told to bench Taylor and he refused, so he was fired? Then Lynn was told and he obeyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 29 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Pretty obvious this was the case. Must be pretty embarrassing for Rex to admit. I would have ignored the order. He was a lame duck by that stage anyway, why not stand up for yourself and make the owners fire you then. The writing was on the wall anyway for Rex yet he caves? Makes him seem even more of a loser than I thought! I didn't see Wade do this for Flutie. Coaches will always cover their own butt when owners/ GM's get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rex Ryan is fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Last years news. Is so last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Are we maybe missing the detail of Rex being told to bench Taylor and he refused, so he was fired? Then Lynn was told and he obeyed? Nobody's missing anything. This was reported last year when it happened. As I recall it: Rex, Terry and Doug were having their weekly call. Doug told Rex he wanted Taylor benched. It's never been disclosed whether Terry made that decision. The most credible speculation is that Whaley wanted to preserve his options under Taylor's contract, and if Taylor got injured in the last game, Whaley might have been stuck with Taylor long-term with no option to terminate his contract. Since the Bills were out of the playoffs, Whaley didn't want to take the chance of a Taylor injury. AFTER the phone call, Rex walked into Pegula's office and asked whether he would be fired after the last game. Pegula said yes. Rex said "then fire me now." Pegula said okay. I think what you infer from that is that if Pegula told Rex he'd be the coach in 2017, Rex would have been okay benching Taylor. But Rex wasn't going to bench Taylor, a guy he'd handpicked, if he was going to lose his job anyway. Then they offered the interim spot to Lynn and told him he couldn't play Taylor. Lynn didn't have the same commitment to Taylor, and the HC spot, even for a game, was much too valuable to his career to say no. 57 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Pretty obvious this was the case. Must be pretty embarrassing for Rex to admit. I would have ignored the order. He was a lame duck by that stage anyway, why not stand up for yourself and make the owners fire you then. The writing was on the wall anyway for Rex yet he caves? Makes him seem even more of a loser than I thought! Rex prides himself in being a players' coach. He stood up for Taylor. Rex effectively DID make them fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rex wanted to pad his record. Whaley and probably the Pegulas wanted to not risk further injury to Tyrod and improve their draft position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 51 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: I should have read the article! I take back my critique of Rex. He is now slightly LESS of a loser than I thought. But was the call Whalley's or the Pegula's? to bench TT. last year? the article does confirm where the order originated. Not sure. I gave my opinion on how it went down in my first post. And yes... Rex is still a loser lol. 36 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Are we maybe missing the detail of Rex being told to bench Taylor and he refused, so he was fired? Then Lynn was told and he obeyed? No. Didn't miss it. That is what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 He was told to bench him last year to avoid the injury guarentee. These are two totally seperate issues. Fun non-story though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I believe it's more than injury clause. I believe Whaley still thought EJ would pan out and be the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 He clearly wasnt told to fix the defense! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 So, the used car salesman got outplayed by another used car salesman?................sounds about right with this franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I believe it's more than injury clause. I believe Whaley still thought EJ would pan out and be the future. Now you're just being persnickity for the heck of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rex is setting up his return to coaching in a few weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 This is 99.9% why Taylor is gone after this year and Peterman will start the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rex better get another coaching job. He won't be on ESPN next year. He is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: This is 99.9% why Taylor is gone after this year and Peterman will start the rest of the season. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Well, it's a good thing he stuck to his guns. Otherwise we wouldn't have had that wondrous 7-9, chest-puffing season that made everyone so proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Great. Now we have two worse meddling owners not named Ralph. This sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, WildBills said: Great. Now we have two worse meddling owners not named Ralph. This sucks. I really do wonder if that's the case. Most long time fans know RW is why Flutie was benched for Rob Johnson in the Music City Miracle game. And while I don't necessarily have a problem moving on from TT, I hope the Pegulas truly aren't dictating the QB situation behind the scenes or it really don't matter who we have at GM and HC they are both destined to fail. Either way can't imagine Pegula Sports and Entertainment truly enjoys watching both of their pro sports teams continue to suck, especially the Sabres talk about a full blown dumpster fire and worst team in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I'm not sure if you guys are trying to have a serious conversation but there is a major difference between a coach benching Taylor after his 56 yard meltdown then there is when the owner/GM pull the plug on a lost season. The same goes for all the nut jobs ranting about Manning being benched. It isn't McAdoo making that call, it's the ownership/GM agreeing that they need to look towards the future. People get appalled about tank talk, so bench the best QB and tank silently. Yikes, y'all hitting that captains and egg nog a few weeks early. Frisky fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Rex who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Taylor has that injury clause in his contract so it was the smart thing to do in benching him. Rex may have been a "players coach" but that was a stupid hill for him to die on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Rex felt he got screwed by the Bills because he only got 2 years and his 2nd year the players they drafted for his defense were both hurt before they could even play. IF Ragland doesn't tear his ACL in camp maybe he looks like a stud in Rex's D and the whole tenor of the season is different. He had the best record since Wade and was .500 here in two seasons. Hardly the trainwreck it was depicted as. Defense was bad, and the pieces they got to help fix it arrived broken, or never arrived at all. Super Mario wasn't so super in Miami either. He was just straight up done. Sports are funny that way though. If Seattle and Atlanta run the ball Brady isn't the unquestionable GOAT, but since they passed the ball and a DB intercepted it and a LB caused a fumble Brady is the best of all time. Edited November 29, 2017 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Everybody should know this. I love how Rex is trying to paint this as the move that got him fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Anyone that doesn’t think it was Whaley is clueless. 57 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Rex is setting up his return to coaching in a few weeks... No NFL team is going to take Clown Shoes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 This all tells me, along with Rob's comment about "two former Bills coaches tearing it up next year" that Rex is rehabbing his reputation so that he can get another crack as a HC in a month or so when the hiring spree gets going. There will likely be quite a few openings, and there always seems to be a surprise one as well. Who is going to take the CLE job? Could it be Rex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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