simpleman Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Not surprising. But I doubt that it will really matter in the won / loss columns. With the mess at the right side of the Oline we failed to address in the off season. With our Oline coaching and scheme, any QB is doomed to fail. Our WR talent is weak beyond our two new rentals. Which QB we start will not make injured players suddenly heal. The Bills have devastated the talent level on the DL and the LBs with losses, age and foolish trades. The only bright spots left on the D are the corners and the safeties. The QB we choose will not magically fix our putrid D. It will not make our D suddenly remember how to tackle. It will not make our Oline learn how to block and protect. It will not polish the old turds we have in Vlad and Mills, or turn an old career backup RB like Tolbert into a young productive stud. Our player personnel beyond our kicker and our backfield are worse than even last year. We acquired a bunch of good old boy buddies from management's and coach's former teams that are not building the team for the future. At this point, the season is over from mismanagement and a highly questionable belief in future pipe dreams. I do think we should give NP one last chance later in the season to show he actually isn't the steaming pile he appeared to be in the last half he played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: That might make some sense if they werwnt giving up points in the first half too. Sure the offense goes three and out. That could be negated if the defense got off the field on third down instead of drives that go all the way downfield. The Saints had 17 first-half points to the Bills 3. The Jets had 10 points in the first half, to the Bills 7. You guys act like the game was already over before halftime, when each of those was well within reach. It wasn't until the second half when the defense started to get tired that things went south. In each of those games, the opposing team had the time of possession advantage. In fact, the Saints had double the time of possession. I'm not saying blame Tyrod for the defenses poor performance, but when people say "Tyrod didn't give up 47 points." I think that's a BS state because he was a major contributor to the Saints game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: disagree, it makes it look like the coach has no idea what he is doing. You already told the world you don't think Taylor is good enough. You went to a guy, it backfired, but now you are going to say the guy you benched is now your best player. So, is it that McD is admitting he was wrong or that he's too scared to lose the team or that he's just to weak to stand up to his decision? it was a lose-lose decision no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 You can’t fault McD for benching Tyrod. All year long he has struggled at times. Yes he’s made plays, but also hasn’t been consistent. Yes it’s much bigger than just Tyrod, but hopefully it lit a fire under him and hopefully the team will be refreshed to see him back out there and ready to battle. either way I feel this team goes 3-3 the next 6 weeks even with Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Time for the Oline to show up again. Time for the backup WR's to actually make some plays and help the QB. I see backups helping other teams all over the league. These guys need to step up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Peterman's next start will be 12/10 vs. Colts. And he'll finish the season as the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, ScottLaw said: Carried? They forced turnovers which the offense turned into points. The lack of talent has caught up to them and the Dareus trade was the straw that broke the camels back. Teams run at will on us now. Agree on most, disagree that any of our qb's should see the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 What a mess this team is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I guess, but didn't he also give up a strip sack? Just a more aggressive version of himself. Not sure Taylor's problem has been strip sacks. I like a more aggressive version of the QB who most complain is not aggressive enough. Plus, that's like someone saying "so-and-so HB or WR looked like he was playing more aggressive last week" and getting a response "yeah, but he fumbled." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Are we going to get off the field on 3rd down against the chiefs? Are we going to give up 40 again? If so, who gives a ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Except most of those turnovers were do to sloppy play by the other ten players. Like I said, they played like crap two weeks before the change. If they didn't like it they should have played better. This narrative is terribly inaccurate. I will concede the first one. Ball placement could have been better and maybe there was too much velocity on the throw to a guy who was targeted maybe 2 other times all year. Yes as a professional and one of the highest paid and more versatile fb in the league you need to make that catch and break a tackle or 2. From that point forward those are all on Nathan. It is on the QB to protect the football. Also, the QB is allowed to move in the pocket. Nothing states he has to stand on the exact spot of his drop. Throwing late over the middle off his back foot may work for Rodgers or another Qb with incredible arrm talent but that is not Peterman and he knows it. Heaving up 2 arm punts, starring down an out vs cover 2 and air mailing a curl points to the quarterback not being ready. Saying its on 10 other guys to make up for poor throws and poor decisions is wrong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 38 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Lost the team? Why don't they show some pride and actually do their jobs? Agreed - if there is anyone on that team that thinks they lost solely because of playing Peterman instead of Taylor, then they need to take a long look in the mirror. The defense overall and the OL are a shambles. I know KC is struggling, but I’ll be very surprised if KC doesn’t score at least 30. 17 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said: You can’t fault McD for benching Tyrod. All year long he has struggled at times. Yes he’s made plays, but also hasn’t been consistent. Yes it’s much bigger than just Tyrod, but hopefully it lit a fire under him and hopefully the team will be refreshed to see him back out there and ready to battle. either way I feel this team goes 3-3 the next 6 weeks even with Tyrod. I think 3-3 is optistic with the way the defense has been exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Tyrod is the obvious choice. Tyrod is the better Quarterback. Nate wasn't ready for the big show. It would look real bad to start Nate again if he has to be pulled at the half because of a similar performance. It really doesn't matter who you start because the entire team is in decline but the rookie just played to aggressive and made to many poor choices to be considered right now. I wanted to see Nate and I applauded the bold move but in hindsight it was a bad move. I don't care how bad anyone thinks Tyrod is because it wasn't 5 interceptions and being pulled at the half bad. I don't care how much of it was on Nate he just wasn't productive with his chance and Tyrod will never be that bad. Edited November 22, 2017 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, zow2 said: For anyone to come on this board and suggest McD is stupid for going back to Tyrod or "has no balls" is ridiculous.....that is so disingenuous. If McD came back and started Peterman at Arrowhead this week he should be fired on the spot. No NFL coach, GM or owner would ever sign off on putting back in a rookie with zero body of work after that disaster. It would be career suicide. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 It really isn't going to matter at this point who plays QB. This team is rotten, with way too many holes to fill. Any playoff talk at this point is purely dillusional. This team will be lucky to win more than one more game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I'm sure when we're down 35-3 he'll put Peterman back in. Switching the QBs we have is the least of our problems. We don't have an NFL qb- that is the biggest problems. We passed on Mohomes and Watson and built draft capital. This capital needs to be spent on a quaterback. Move up and get your guy, even if it takes adding next years number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, dpberr said: I don't see it as a weak move by McDermott. In fact, it's a good sign. I'm relieved that he didn't start Peterman out of some demonstration of will or "trust" in the process but instead, made a decision based on facts to win a football game. Fact: Peterman was terrible, regardless if he "fits" what "their" offense is looking for in a QB. Fact: Taylor was better, regardless if he doesn't "fit" what "their" offense is looking for in a QB. I don't fault anybody who wanted a QB change. At the time Peterman was a relative unknown quantity. Nobody knew for sure how he'd do starting a game against the opposition's A team talent. Now we know. No need to have another grenade go off in an enclosed space. I just wish he'd do the same for the problems that plague the OL - and make some changes there. No anyone with any shred of knowledge knew it was foolhardy and a disaster...... The fact it was worse then anticipated and comedically inept was the whipped cream and cherry on top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: When oh when will this fan base stop blaming the OC and realize the issue is with the QB? The Bills can try 13232332 OC's with the QB's we have had: Same results. NOTHING will change. when comparing previous seasons is no longer an option. simply look at last season vs this season. other than shipping away Gills (another silly move), this offense is the same. the only thing that changed, was the coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, PIZ said: Tryrod needs to understand WHY he was benched, AND correct his game. I hope he gets it. Oh yeah he probably gets it, no doubt. He just isn't a good enough QB to do anything about it. He may try and he'll fail but in the end I think he will revert right back to typical, not good enough Tyrod. What was that stat and correct me if i'm wrong, somebody posted in another thread about the Bills only scoring 9 ppg with Tyrod when the turnovers are equal or minus and only 23 ppg when the Bills are like +3 or something like that in the turnovers. That's absolutely horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 51 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Playing to win THIS season is, was, and always will be the WRONG move. But again, this is unsurprising. Coaching to keep the rabble happy. I kmow. Bills fans aren’t used to winning. So the act of trying to win feels wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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