Nathan Peterman to Start this Week.

[CommonCents]

WC Coordinator Meet WC QB.

 

If you two fellas don't show something before Christmas you will both be on a bus to Cleveland before New Years. 

 

Happy Holidays.

Bills fans everywhere.

 

 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, JM2009 said:

5-4 isn't terrible. He had some pretty nice games in those five wins. Miami is bad, Colts are bad, Chargers are beatable. I want this ridiculous playoff drought to end. Trusting the process means nothing until the playoff drought has ended.

 

It isn’t terrible but you can point to 2 losses that fall directly on Tyrod. The Saints ran a ton of cover 2 shell where the defensive coverages on each side don’t mirror each other. Tyrod was confused. It was the lowest passer rating of his career. I’ll be curious to see if Peterman is allowed to audible. If he can that will show that Tyrod simply cannot read defenses pre-snap, and since this offense requires that it makes no sense to try and force him. If he goes to a more college-style offense next year which I believe he will, he’ll be better off.

[Worstcaseontario]

1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:

Might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen.  Unless someones 4 year old did that I can't understand why an adult would have wasted their time.

I thought it was pretty funny

[Teddy KGB]

1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:

Might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen.  Unless someones 4 year old did that I can't understand why an adult would have wasted their time.

 

The part where he looks scared to pass and the part that says elite is hilarious.     

[zow2]

1 hour ago, No Cease Fires said:

If they didn't want TT they should have made this move in the preseason. Another inept decision from yet another inept Bills regime.

 

Stubbornness, loyalties and being scared to take chances are the norm in the NFL.  Just look at Bill O'Brien picking Tom Savage to be Houston's starter coming out of preseason and leaving DeShaun Watson on the bench. 

 

I give McD props (and I'm sure Beane agreed with him) in making this move now.  He could have done the easy thing and tried to make Tyrod work.  Instead he's trying to make the team better.

[Foxx]

57 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It isn’t terrible but you can point to 2 losses that fall directly on Tyrod. The Saints ran a ton of cover 2 shell where the defensive coverages on each side don’t mirror each other. Tyrod was confused. It was the lowest passer rating of his career. I’ll be curious to see if Peterman is allowed to audible. If he can that will show that Tyrod simply cannot read defenses pre-snap, and since this offense requires that it makes no sense to try and force him. If he goes to a more college-style offense next year which I believe he will, he’ll be better off.

Tyrod can't read defenses, isn't that plainly evident? it's not that Tyrod isn't allowed to call audibles it's that he doesn't know how to read the defense in front of him so even if he did audible, he might go to a worse situation..  college offenses work, in college. in college you will have receivers running wide open. college offenses do not work in the NFL. 

Edited November 16, 2017 by Foxx

[HuSeYiN_NYC]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

I thought Roman, his first year especially, was outstanding considering what he had to work with. 

 

By first year are you referring to two WHOLE weeks?

[BringBackOrton]

Just now, HuSeYiN_NYC said:

 

By first year are you referring to two WHOLE weeks?

Roman was our OC for the entirety of 2015.

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

Roman was our OC for the entirety of 2015.

I guess I assumed that was common knowledge.

[BringBackOrton]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

I guess I assumed that was common knowledge.

The 17 years blends together for all of us, I'm afraid.

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Roman was excellent when it came to run play design. Less so when it came to prep & reps. Even less so when it came to passing concepts.

Bills were top 10 in ANY/A and a plurality of passing efficiency statistics in 2015. Roman's passing concepts have always been limited by his passers.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I guess I assumed that was common knowledge.

never assume

[Boatdrinks]

10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Bills were top 10 in ANY/A and a plurality of passing efficiency statistics in 2015. Roman's passing concepts have always been limited by his passers.

Yep. The Bills started 0-2 last year and someone had to pay. The offense was scoring points, but Rex wasn't firing himself or his windbag brother. Roman was fitted for goat horns. Lynn was the new playcaller , running Romans offense for the remainder of 2016. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Bills were top 10 in ANY/A and a plurality of passing efficiency statistics in 2015. Roman's passing concepts have always been limited by his passers.

Roman didn't design the pass offense, hence my comment. His preference in play calling was to us a lot of long developing routes, which isn't really all that helpful, but often worked out okay with a QB who bailed on pockets and bought time with his feet.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Rise Up Lights said:

Yeah rookies tend to turn the ball over more. But while it is likely he may throw an int, it's also very possible he won't. I've seen all of his college games, living in ACC country. He is a gamer. The way he went into Clemson and beat the future champs, shows me that moments don't get too big for him. I'm hoping this translates to moments like this, his first NFL start.  I think he and Zay will be good connection. They seemed to have good chemistry at the senior bowl and in preseason. The NFL sample size is very small, but it is encouraging. Only time will tell.

 

Love this kid and was so thrilled we drafted him. He's only going to get better with time and experience. 

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Roman didn't design the pass offense, hence my comment. His preference in play calling was to us a lot of long developing routes, which isn't really all that helpful, but often worked out okay with a QB who bailed on pockets and bought time with his feet.

As OC he was responsible for implementing both the passing and rushing play designs into a cohesive offensive strategy, which I thought he did admirably for what he was working with. I don't know exactly what you mean by 'didn't design the pass offense'.

[Maine-iac]

32 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Bills were top 10 in ANY/A and a plurality of passing efficiency statistics in 2015. Roman's passing concepts have always been limited by his passers.

Roman still puts up an offense that scores over 23 ppg game twice as much as Dennison even if he doesn't create "franchise QB's" or throw for 300 every game.

Hell Roman has outscored Dennison the last 2 years and is outscoring him this year as well. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

As OC he was responsible for implementing both the passing and rushing play designs into a cohesive offensive strategy, which I thought he did admirably for what he was working with. I don't know exactly what you mean by 'didn't design the pass offense'.

 

[GoBills808]

10 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

 

Not to be argumentative, but is that tweet the entirety of what you're basing the notion that Roman 'didn't design the passing offense' on?

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Bills were top 10 in ANY/A and a plurality of passing efficiency statistics in 2015. Roman's passing concepts have always been limited by his passers.

 

By “always” do you mean the year and 2 games he was with the Bills? Before Buffalo he had never been in charge of the pass game. A career run-game coordinator.

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

By “always” do you mean the year and 2 games he was with the Bills? Before Buffalo he had never been in charge of the pass game. A career run-game coordinator.

He's currently coaching the tight ends in Baltimore...and I was referring to his time in SF with Kaepernick, quite obviously. Where are you guys getting the idea that as an offensive coordinator he doesn't have anything to do with the passing attack?

[AmishRifle]

Something has changed drastically over the last two weeks schematically with opposing defenses.  The inability of Tyrod to read and beat the opposing defenses led to this decision.  An important point is the lack of complimentary football we’ve been playing.  We are not good enough to win without it.  I agree with the decision and believe it gives us the best chance to win.  Looking forward to some scheme changes on D as well against A Lynn and the Chargers.

[The Wiz]

3 minutes ago, AmishRifle said:

Something has changed drastically over the last two weeks schematically with opposing defenses.  The inability of Tyrod to read and beat the opposing defenses led to this decision.  An important point is the lack of complimentary football we’ve been playing.  We are not good enough to win without it.  I agree with the decision and believe it gives us the best chance to win.  Looking forward to some scheme changes on D as well against A Lynn and the Chargers.

Both teams were focused on forcing Taylor into staying in the pocket.  Some plays, like when taylor ran right up the middle against the saints, were probably broken plays but for the most part they just focused on containing him in the pocket and then letting him try to find a receiver.

 

There have been teams saying this in post game interviews that they are trying to "force Taylor to be a QB".  It's not hard to think that most teams don't respect his ability as a pocket QB based on their comments.

[HuSeYiN_NYC]

1 hour ago, jmc12290 said:

Roman was our OC for the entirety of 2015.

 

I must have been in the Matrix cuz i don't even remember him like that. Crazy.

[goldenboy81]

4 hours ago, jkirchofer said:

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I found it on Facebook.

 

Funny as hell and true

[DisplacedBillsFan]

Is it Sunday yet? I'm so pumped it's like Christmas came early!

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, jkirchofer said:

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I found it on Facebook.

 

Oh man.  I’m in tears.  Look at those eyes.  Poor TT

[njbuff]

Am I reading this wrong or does Peterman become the 15th starting QB during the drought?

 

Well, any number it is............................. you can look right here and see why there is a playoff drought.

 

Let's hope Peterman is the last starting QB for the next 10+ years. Lord knows we can use the break about us fans worrying about the QB position.

[3rdand12]

4 hours ago, Jeebus said:

More then likely they thought Peterman wasn't ready and they thought they could get Taylor to be something he wasn't.  This is still a scary proposition throwing a rookie against a defense that is second in sacks.  

 

Another ballsy call by McD.  It worked fairly well with the trades before the season and I was doubting of those moves.  I'm going to wait to reserve judgement on this one.

 

Taylor is the best quarterback we have had in a long time  but, I do see how Taylor is the square peg in the round hole with this offense and Denison has failed to use Taylor appropriately and Peterman may be a better fit for what they are trying to do.  

Good post!

 

 

 I am really holding judgement about ALL the ballsy and bizarre moves Bill shave done with players.
and then The How they are playing football these days.

 All 3 Teams seem to be a bit off last couple weeks.
Watching for the season end to define my opinions.

 

"concernedthough

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

9 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Good post!

 

 

 I am really holding judgement about ALL the ballsy and bizarre moves Bill shave done with players.
and then The How they are playing football these days.

 All 3 Teams seem to be a bit off last couple weeks.
Watching for the season end to define my opinions.

 

"concernedthough

 

 

....I just want to see Peterman blow past the 300 yd mark so we can read all of the posts about how great the receiving corp was, win or lose.......the same "worst in the NFL misfits"......exposing the "Bi-Polar Gang" is well worth the extra popcorn.....I'm armed and ready................

[26CornerBlitz]

Edwards: Peterman is 'suited to play now' (2:04)

Herm Edwards says Buffalo benched QB Tyrod Taylor for Nathan Peterman because the Bills feel like Peterman has a better chance to be a pocket quarterback.

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

As OC he was responsible for implementing both the passing and rushing play designs into a cohesive offensive strategy, which I thought he did admirably for what he was working with. I don't know exactly what you mean by 'didn't design the pass offense'.

He ran the running game. do not recall at the moment who ran the passing game, but they were designated assignments. It was  common knowledge at one point 

8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....I just want to see Peterman blow past the 300 yd mark so we can read all of the posts about how great the receiving corp was, win or lose.......the same "worst in the NFL misfits"......exposing the "Bi-Polar Gang" is well worth the extra popcorn.....I'm armed and ready................

I can do nothing but wish him well. I think Peterman has some real potential. cool cat so far..
But I am a CoT card carrying member.

 

I see much more wrong here than QB.

 

Lets us pray.

Go Nathan !

[Foxx]

the only question i have at this point is... does he prefer to be called Nathan or just Nate?

[BuffaloHokie13]

2 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Not to be argumentative, but is that tweet the entirety of what you're basing the notion that Roman 'didn't design the passing offense' on?

No, not nearly the entirety. At Stanford he designed the run offense and Harbaugh designed the pass offense. In SF those responsibilities stayed the same. In Buffalo he deferred the pass game design to the QB & WR coaches. Now in Baltimore his is the run game coordinator. The man has never designed his own pass offense because he isn't good at it. His knowledge base is complex run blocking schemes, and he's a master in that area.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

7 minutes ago, Foxx said:

the only question i have at this point is... does he prefer to be called Nathan or just Nate?

Based on Twitter 

 

@NatePeterman

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

No, not nearly the entirety. At Stanford he designed the run offense and Harbaugh designed the pass offense. In SF those responsibilities stayed the same. In Buffalo he deferred the pass game design to the QB & WR coaches. Now in Baltimore his is the run game coordinator. The man has never designed his own pass offense because he isn't good at it. His knowledge base is complex run blocking schemes, and he's a master in that area.

OK. I'd heard he was hands-off with the passing game in Buffalo but I never knew he had basically nothing to do with it...I won't credit him with the 2015 pass efficiency then, I guess it was Lal and whoever the QB coach was? Still maintain that overall he took that offense about as far as it could possibly go.

[Foxx]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

OK. I'd heard he was hands-off with the passing game in Buffalo but I never knew he had basically nothing to do with it...I won't credit him with the 2015 pass efficiency then, I guess it was Lal and whoever the QB coach was? Still maintain that overall he took that offense about as far as it could possibly go.

David Lee?

[GoBills808]

Just now, Foxx said:

David Lee?

Yep.

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

OK. I'd heard he was hands-off with the passing game in Buffalo but I never knew he had basically nothing to do with it...I won't credit him with the 2015 pass efficiency then, I guess it was Lal and whoever the QB coach was? Still maintain that overall he took that offense about as far as it could possibly go.

I'd argue Lynn took it farther, but that's because he simplified the preparation prior to the game and was willing to run the same play twice if it worked. Nevertheless, my opinion on Roman is mastermind run game, questionable approach to prep, and a poor grasp of passing concepts.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

You can pre order Peterman jerseys on the team site

 

Who is rolling the dice here on the 5th round rookie? Getting a jersey order in before the first start.