SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I was referring to Tyrod being the starter, which is what I thought you were talking about, guess I missed that. no problem. I make mistakes all the time I hope this time isn't one of them Edited November 15, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I personally wonder if this move reflects a willingness to toss this season. The Bills need to see what their draft priorities are. If Peterman turns out to be the second coming of Tom Brady (I know very unlikely) then selecting a QB drops off the draft needs list. If he is a dud and not a stud then the Bills have work to do in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: I personally wonder if this move reflects a willingness to toss this season. The Bills need to see what their draft priorities are. If Peterman turns out to be the second coming of Tom Brady (I know very unlikely) then selecting a QB drops off the draft needs list. If he is a dud and not a stud then the Bills have work to do in the draft. Why do you wonder why this tosses the season and not that it might save it? Either would fit at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Everybody is excited by something new until the point where they aren't because new is shittier than the same old crap. Losman was shiny and new stepping in for Bledsoe who was a statute in the backfield. JP had wheels and a big arm! Then Trentative was a revelation after watching Losman's feast or famine offense fail to sustain drives. Slow and steady Trent was great until defenses figured out he couldn't see more than 6 yards beyond scrimmage. Then gunslinger Fitz was the brand new thing. Fitzy was so refreshing after Trentative but his style of play turned the ball over way too much. Then EJ was the anointed one, leading comebacks and winning those 4 games until he was a total bum. Then Tyrod arrived with no fanfare or expectations, won the starting job, and delivered some of the best QB play we've seen since Kelly retired until he too became tied for the worst QB to ever play football. What makes anyone think new and different will be better? I agree with almost all your facts except that Trent was never great. I'm not sure that it really matters this year, a lot of the guys seem to have quit. I don't understand why but I think the Dareus trade seems to have weakened the team's spirit. Not sure that benching Tyrod is going to solve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Where’s 26 with the you’re an idiot because Tyrod is the starter? Hiding in the same hole he hid under after EJ was kicked to the curb despite 26's continued EJ-supporting-attacks on his fellow TSW posters who dared to suggest that maybe EJ sucks, maybe he always has sucked, maybe everyone at FSU knows it, maybe we know it, and maybe the passage of time isn't going to fix the situation. He's wrong about most things. I guess he figures the more forcefully he attacks others in support of his views, the more correct they will be. Who knows. Maybe he's just bat **** crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: I personally wonder if this move reflects a willingness to toss this season. The Bills need to see what their draft priorities are. If Peterman turns out to be the second coming of Tom Brady (I know very unlikely) then selecting a QB drops off the draft needs list. If he is a dud and not a stud then the Bills have work to do in the draft. Its a win win to me. We know (or most of us did) that keeping TT under center was not working. If we lose does it matter if we lost with TT or NP? If we win. I'm a happy camper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: I can't agree with this; I think we are going hard after a QB. But if Peterman flashes, it may mean we won't have to give up too many picks or reach for one. 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: I can't agree with this; I think we are going hard after a QB. But if Peterman flashes, it may mean we won't have to give up too many picks or reach for one. I disagree. We’ve passed on QBs before because of the likes of Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Trent Edwards. If Peterman plays decent and we make the playoffs we won’t draft a QB. And it could set this franchise back once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Food for thought... Bill BarnwellVerified account @billbarnwell FollowFollow @billbarnwell More The argument that Taylor’s one game was so bad that he has to be benched is silly. Joe Flacco went 8-of-18 for 28 yards with two picks this year and nobody ever questioned whether he should be benched for a second. 8:27 AM - 15 Nov 2017 Edited November 15, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, unclepete said: I disagree. We’ve passed on QBs before because of the likes of Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Trent Edwards. If Peterman plays decent and we make the playoffs we won’t draft a QB. And it could set this franchise back once again. the draft is a gamble regardless. With 12 or more teams looking for a QB the market could be brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Wow. Quite a bold move. I am very excited to see what Peterman can do. He was making anticipatory throws before the receiver was actually open last Sunday, finding holes in the coverage and putting the ball there. When you watch the breakdown tape of Peterman's game it really shows how impressive some of his throws were. I think he earned this shot with his play Sunday. Keeping my expectations realistic though. He is a rookie in his first ever start... Boy though, if this change is permanent, what in the world are some of the posters here going to do now that they can't argue for/against Tyrod all day? lol (j/k). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, K-9 said: I can't agree with this; I think we are going hard after a QB. But if Peterman flashes, it may mean we won't have to give up too many picks or reach for one. indeed. If we've learned anything over the last 17 years, it's that your organization should always be on heightened lookout for your next franchise QB unless you are 100% certain that you have that guy in the fold, and that you have a backup that is capable of winning games in his stead if he gets injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dneveu said: Food for thought... Bill BarnwellVerified account @billbarnwell FollowFollow @billbarnwell More The argument that Taylor’s one game was so bad that he has to be benched is silly. Joe Flacco went 8-of-18 for 28 yards with two picks this year and nobody ever questioned whether he should be benched for a second. 8:27 AM - 15 Nov 2017 Hey Bill Maybe YOU are wrong and Joe should have been benched. Flacco isn't what he used to be. Edited November 15, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I can see the argument that if Denison were willing to change his offensive philosophy then Tyrod (and the o-line and the runners) would look better--last year the offense scored 25 points per game. So in that sense benching Tyrod is not entirely his fault. I am on record as not liking Denison's inflexibility on this. It's one reason the o-line has looked much worse than last year. But given that Denison is committed to a particular offensive system, it makes sense to see if Peterman can run it more successfully. Sucks for Tyrod, but that's the reality of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, dneveu said: Food for thought... Bill BarnwellVerified account @billbarnwell FollowFollow @billbarnwell More The argument that Taylor’s one game was so bad that he has to be benched is silly. Joe Flacco went 8-of-18 for 28 yards with two picks this year and nobody ever questioned whether he should be benched for a second. 8:27 AM - 15 Nov 2017 Joe Flacco won a superbowl and made it to the playoffs multiple times. TT has not. And TT's benching was not because of a single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, unclepete said: I disagree. We’ve passed on QBs before because of the likes of Tyrod Taylor, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Trent Edwards. If Peterman plays decent and we make the playoffs we won’t draft a QB. And it could set this franchise back once again. This is the McBeane show now. Anything short of Peterman looking like Brady out of the box and we are going hard after a QB. Assuming TT is gone, we have Peterman and bubkis at the position. 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: indeed. If we've learned anything over the last 17 years, it's that your organization should always be on heightened lookout for your next franchise QB unless you are 100% certain that you have that guy in the fold, and that you have a backup that is capable of winning games in his stead if he gets injured. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, dneveu said: Food for thought... Bill BarnwellVerified account @billbarnwell FollowFollow @billbarnwell More The argument that Taylor’s one game was so bad that he has to be benched is silly. Joe Flacco went 8-of-18 for 28 yards with two picks this year and nobody ever questioned whether he should be benched for a second. 8:27 AM - 15 Nov 2017 so this cat was/is basing the benching off one game? some need to take the blinders off and watch some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, dneveu said: Food for thought... Bill BarnwellVerified account @billbarnwell FollowFollow @billbarnwell More The argument that Taylor’s one game was so bad that he has to be benched is silly. Joe Flacco went 8-of-18 for 28 yards with two picks this year and nobody ever questioned whether he should be benched for a second. 8:27 AM - 15 Nov 2017 I tink it's more about what Peterman did on the field, and knowing what Tyrod is & isn't capable of than Tyrod having 1 bad game. Tyrod wasn't properly utilizing his weapons on offense. Wasn't throwing to open receivers, was checking down way too much. Too scared of making a mistake (etc etc, we've all watched Tyrod...). Peterman came in and was able to read the defense, audible at the LOS, throw the ball to open holes in coverage BEFORE the receiver even made his break. He did some good things and IMO earned this shot. They know now what they have in TT. They can always go back to him if the Chargers game is a disaster for Peterman. But you are not going to get a better chance during this remaining season to make a change to Peterman. 3-6 Chargers in a half empty stadium that will be likely to have just as many Bills fans as Chargers fans (if not more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: This is the McBeane show now. Anything short of Peterman looking like Brady out of the box and we are going hard after a QB. Assuming TT is gone, we have Peterman and bubkis at the position. Bubkis has familiarity in the system and all the intangibles in the world, but also a noodle arm, cannot not throw his receivers open, and does not pass the eye test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: Bubkis has familiarity in the system and all the intangibles in the world, but also a noodle arm, cannot not throw his receivers open, and does not pass the eye test. But man, his brother Dick was a GREAT middle LB back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senth Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Tyrod had his shot. Time to see what we have or have not with this young prospect. This will definitely better define our direction going forward. Great move COACH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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