Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He was on the Bills for what, a week? I think it's wrong that they need to approve any kind of trade. Just let the man pursue his dreams and further his career. I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. If he'd had a longer tenure with Buffalo, YES, I would get it. But he never played a meaningful down. They should just unchain him and let him go to whichever team he chooses. Like everyone is saying, he's old and washed up, so why does it matter? Why do they need to get something in return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Why do they need to get something in return? Contractual rights. It's a business and both parties knew that when they signed said contract. And I never did hear how the signing bonus was handled when AB 'retired'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 The Bills have already paid him his signing bonus, for 2 weeks of work. Bolton is not in any way being mistreated here. He knew the score. The Bills have rights and are exercising them. Very simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Contractual rights. It's a business and both parties knew that when they signed said contract. And I never did hear how the signing bonus was handled when AB 'retired'... That’s enough to wrap this up. Were you being serious??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think, but I am not positive, that I read he gave the signing bonus back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Its principle. Boldin made a commitment and threw it all away. Makes him look childish for not honoring a commitment and try coming back If he didnt want to be "oppressed" then he shouldnt have signed the contract. Edited October 27, 2017 by Kmart128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 It's smart front office management for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Really? Just wow. Guy wants to play, picks a team out of maybe a small handful, signs an exclusive rights contract and then retires and the other party should just allow that? I'm a moderate but that's some bleeding heart liberal shite right there. If he didn't want to play here, shouldn't have signed. And because he did and then quit, that's on him too. Could have asked for a trade rather than walking out. Could have played and then asked for a trade. There's also a precedent here. No other owner would want to the Bills to grant a player an outright release after they "retired," it would open up opportunities for other players to pay that card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 It's smart front office management for once. absolutely...we need more of this "No holds barred" attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Oppressing. "unchain him." Like he's out in a field, picking cotton. Asshattery. Edited October 27, 2017 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemac Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He was on the Bills for what, a week? I think it's wrong that they need to approve any kind of trade. Just let the man pursue his dreams and further his career. I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. If he'd had a longer tenure with Buffalo, YES, I would get it. But he never played a meaningful down. They should just unchain him and let him go to whichever team he chooses. Like everyone is saying, he's old and washed up, so why does it matter? Why do they need to get something in return? He's under contract. A contract he signed of his own free will. He is responsible to meet the terms he agreed to in signing that contract. Don't blame the Bills for Boldin's choices and for trying to work a trade to better the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Thats enough to wrap this up. Were you being serious??? Hmmmm Edited October 27, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He signed a contract to play for Buffalo. Then at the last second he retires.. screwing Buffalo in the process who was relying on him. How could you feel for the guy? He's a fickle jerk who can't make up his mind. Good for the Bills for not letting him off the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He signed a contract to play for Buffalo. Then at the last second he retires.. screwing Buffalo in the process who was relying on him. How could you feel for the guy? He's a fickle jerk who can't make up his mind. Good for the Bills for not letting him off the hook. Gotta be #woke, breh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. They should just unchain him and let him go to whichever team he chooses. Does Gugny = Al Sharpton? I mean really. I am not all PC and all but truly words like "oppressed" "property" and "unchain" sounds like you are looking for Civil War reparations at the worst or trolling at best. BTW... it is a contract signed by a "free man" so, in turn, he needs to honor it. Edited October 27, 2017 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He signed a contract, so blame his agent, not the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 BS. Im all for Beane to play hardball here. Boldin signed to play with the Bills, probably taking other potential free agents off the board we could have signed but didnt because Boldin was committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Lol Another great example of someone over complicating a situation to try and fit with the recent media flavor of the week. You must be a journalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Let's just say you signed a year long lease for an apartment and moved into the place. After 2 weeks you say "hey, I don't want to live here anymore and I'm gonna move." What do you think the land lord would do? Just let you break the contract and walk away? Have fun with that. I'm sure you could get out of it, but it would cost you. The same principles apply to Bolden. He's gonna have to pay to get out of this mess he created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 This is either some nice trolling or...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He signed a contract, so blame his agent, not the Bills. Even that is passing the buck....he has a brain of his own. By all accounts he’s a good guy. If we can get something/anything out of this I’m for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Let's just say you signed a year long lease for an apartment and moved into the place. After 2 weeks you say "hey, I don't want to live here anymore and I'm gonna move." What do you think the land lord would do? Just let you break the contract and walk away? Have fun with that. I'm sure you could get out of it, but it would cost you. The same principles apply to Bolden. He's gonna have to pay to get out of this mess he created. Let's say you moved into an apartment and your landlord said everything is included. And then a week later your landlord said we traded your kitchen to a dude in Los Angeles for an extra toilet and a small den you get in a year. You no longer have a kitchen. But most everything is still included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Django Unchained! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Slave. Lol. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 So, what happens after the trade deadline passes? Can the Bills still receive compensation if they agree to release him, after the trade deadline (since he's retired)? How does the trade deadline impact the Bills decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Slave. Lol. Nice try. Where did you see that word before you just typed it? It certainly was not in the original post. Stop making this into something it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Where did you see that word before you just typed it? It certainly was not in the original post. Stop making this into something it isn't. "oppressing" "unchain" No, of course not. Edited October 27, 2017 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Wasn’t it the GF who brought up Django? While there are valid points, much of it is self inflicted. You can’t have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Where did you see that word before you just typed it? It certainly was not in the original post. Stop making this into something it isn't. Actually your original words of your opening post lead to it - "unchained" "oppressed" "unjust" and "property." Those words are what lead many to show you were referring (slavery) to the situation. You DO NOT have to use a word to describe it. It is akin to me saying "furry" "pet" "bark" and "man's best friend" and getting appalled someone THOUGHT I was referring to a dog. Edited October 27, 2017 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He signed up to play, decided not to. So now he shouldn't get to play. When I was young if I signed up to play then saw how bad the team was and quit and then decided later I wanted to play but for a different (better) team they would have laughed at me and said sorry but no and gave me a speech about commitment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Let's say you moved into an apartment and your landlord said everything is included. And then a week later your landlord said we traded your kitchen to a dude in Los Angeles for an extra toilet and a small den you get in a year. You no longer have a kitchen. But most everything is still included.I might agree with you if you could provide a real world situation in which that actually happened. A landlord trading your kitchen for a toilet hasn't ever happened, ever. You're just imagining crazy scenarios. People try and break leases all the time tho. And breaking isn't easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 It is called a contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 /internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Really? Just wow. Guy wants to play, picks a team out of maybe a small handful, signs an exclusive rights contract and then retires and the other party should just allow that? I'm a moderate but that's some bleeding heart liberal shite right there. If he didn't want to play here, shouldn't have signed. And because he did and then quit, that's on him too. Could have asked for a trade rather than walking out. Could have played and then asked for a trade. There's also a precedent here. No other owner would want to the Bills to grant a player an outright release after they "retired," it would open up opportunities for other players to pay that card. Am I interpreting this right ? Sounds like you brought politics into this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 If I'm understanding here, the OP believes that requiring someone to honor a written contract is akin to oppression? If so.....this country is in bigger trouble than I thought. Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I thought he was fighting oppression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 You didn't mention the Emancipation Proclamation, or the even the Underground Railroad, so I'll give you that. Where did you see that word before you just typed it? It certainly was not in the original post. Stop making this into something it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I might agree with you if you could provide a real world situation in which that actually happened. A landlord trading your kitchen for a toilet hasn't ever happened, ever. You're just imagining crazy scenarios. People try and break leases all the time tho. And breaking isn't easy. I understand and of course that was outrageous. But the Bills might have made a commitment to him. I highly, highly doubt if they had already traded Sammy and Darby that Boldin would have signed. The word around here and around the league was that it was a good trade for the future and not so good for short term. He signed for one last chance to go to the playoffs and to mentor Sammy and Zay. Then a week later they traded Sammy. And our offense looked awful. And he thought I no longer have two of the three or four things I signed up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think the OP was trying to say that in this era of tension and conflict between Colin K. and ownership, maybe the Pegulas should offer the olive branch to the players and show good faith by waiving any right to compensation. I mean, seriously, by holding out for a 2019 7th round draft pick, how are we helping the cause. Just release him and show the NFL that the Bills are above the fray. By demanding compensation, it seems we are treating Boldin as a piece of meat. Let the man pursue his career (and still seek social justice on weekends). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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