Nick the Greek Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Boldin for a 7th round pick to whatever team wants him. If that don't work, then Boldin for a McDonald's hot coffee light and sweet will work too... But seriously, I agree with the majority here. He signed a contract and that's that. Not like he will do much for a team anyway (man is he slow or what?), but I like how Beane is handling the situation. Bolden to the Pats and he goes on to burn us for 100 yards and 2 TDs? No thank you. Send him to the NFC. AFC teams are off the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 send him to the 49ers or Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 What kind of equity do we have in Boldin? Nothing. The point is: with NFL players, why do teams have the right to deprive a man the right to pursue a career just because they hold his rights. They hold his rights because HE CHOSE to sign them away. Personal accountability. Just that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 send him to the 49ers or BrownsLOL send him to the Browns. That's the best idea I've heard yet. He won't know how good he had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Contractual rights. It's a business and both parties knew that when they signed said contract. And I never did hear how the signing bonus was handled when AB 'retired'... As I understand it, a typical contract requires that in the event of retirement, any signing bonus amortized into the current year's salary cap must be repaid. He was on the Bills for what, a week? I think it's wrong that they need to approve any kind of trade. Just let the man pursue his dreams and further his career. I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. He is free to un-retire and pursue his dreams and his career right here in Buffalo, where he freely chose to sign an exclusive rights contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Boldin held his own self back. He signed a law abiding agreement money for his services with other contractual language included. No one held Boldin and forced him to agree to the terms of the contract. Just like Boldin couldnt have forced Pegula to pay him a certain amount; similarly Pegula couldnt force Boldin yo play. Thats how things work in Matureville. Edited October 27, 2017 by Bill_with_it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Haha nice troll job Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) And, folks complain about BBMB posters sheetposting... That said, quality sheetpoast. Edited October 27, 2017 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He had the freedom to sign with any team. He signed with the Bills. He did not buy in and decided that he would rather save the world. Now that he has saved the world, he wants to play football. He has a contract with the Bills. Because he has a contract with the Bills, he can play for the Bills or seek permission for a trade. What's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Oh, no. No trolling. This is Gugny. He's damn serious. In fact, it's not just the Bills oppressing him. It's America. It's you and you and you and me. It's everyone. Everyone but Gugny. No. It's just the Bills and Boldin. Not you, me, or anyone else. You think you're a pretty important dude, I see. There you go again, making this into something that it isn't. And don't wrap KD into your little world; he didn't ask for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 This is done so guys on subpar teams don't "retire" then unretire a few weeks later to sign with a contending team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4a309bb5-1bd5-4f8c-99d2-9282ee6d14ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Oppressing. "unchain him." Like he's out in a field, picking cotton. Asshattery. Thank you Joe. Wow......... It's smart front office management for once. Absolutely. You and JSP summed it up in just a few sentences. Edited October 27, 2017 by Bill from NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Grant of Limited Permission: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/923687732160888832/photo/1 Edited October 27, 2017 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 No. It's just the Bills and Boldin. Not you, me, or anyone else. You think you're a pretty important dude, I see. There you go again, making this into something that it isn't. And don't wrap KD into your little world; he didn't ask for it. You understand your view is misguided, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 No. It's just the Bills and Boldin. Not you, me, or anyone else. You think you're a pretty important dude, I see. There you go again, making this into something that it isn't. And don't wrap KD into your little world; he didn't ask for it. Hold on, you weren't joking around? You think that Boldin is being oppressed and needs to be unchained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 this is about the bills having say/blocking him from going to a team like new England for obvious reasons.... unless of course they pay dearly in the form of a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Sooo... Kyle Orton to the WOF then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Hold on, you weren't joking around? You think that Boldin is being oppressed and needs to be unchained? Well ... I mean ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think, but I am not positive, that I read he gave the signing bonus back. Even if he gave back the bonus, he basically hung the Bills out to dry and if he doesn't want to play for Buffalo (or they are no longer interested) it's smart management to get something in return for him going to another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Well ... I mean ... Do you not understand how contracts work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He was on the Bills for what, a week? I think it's wrong that they need to approve any kind of trade. Just let the man pursue his dreams and further his career. I feel that the Bills are treating Boldin as "their property," and it's unjust. If he'd had a longer tenure with Buffalo, YES, I would get it. But he never played a meaningful down. They should just unchain him and let him go to whichever team he chooses. Like everyone is saying, he's old and washed up, so why does it matter? Why do they need to get something in return? Did we cut him or did he walk away from his teammates and our team? He got paid and had contract so we have his rights. Maybe we would have signed some other free agent if he did not sign with us and then reneg. He owes us something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I would give up a 7th in 2019 if it means our team is the first to end the perpetual treatment of old players as cattle or shares of stock. These guys are humans... not widgets that can be tucked in a barn and sold only when you feel like it. IMOold cows have a porpoise. Old NFL players, not so much. A 14 yr old cow is worth as much as a 3 yr old cow. Poor comparison unless you want me to slap down Boldin, brand his ass and castrate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) I might agree with you if you could provide a real world situation in which that actually happened. A landlord trading your kitchen for a toilet hasn't ever happened, ever. You're just imagining crazy scenarios. It's called making a point and doesn't have to be "real world". And the point was Boldin's rather shabby actions are partial understood by what the Bills did. He's a man at the end of a long and distinguished career who wanted to go out a winner. He signed with a team making loud noises about just that - who immediately took actions which looked like they were writing-off the season & tanking. As for the original post, I don't have strong feelings either way. Neither side looked good in this fracas. The OP might have done better if he'd not mentioned "oppressing" and simply asked if the Bills should be magnanimous. The idea being : (1) They themselves aren't entirely blameless, (2) The man has a long career worthy of respect, (3) Any recompense would be piddling.... One question was whether the signing bonus was or wasn't paid back. I've heard it both ways..... Edited October 27, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 This has nothing to do with oppression. Boldin signed a contract and was well compensated for the 2 weeks here was here. He freely chose to sign contract and freely chose to walk away. Within weeks of walking away we were already hearing rumors that Boldin wanted back in the NFL. If Bills just let him walk and he signed with the Patriots it would make Bills look bad. If he wanted to go back to Cardinals, I believe Bills would probably end up waiving compensation. I just think Bills have some vested interest in where he might play and they are being smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Simply put: Boldin is our property. Thats how contracts work. If he was a 3 year veteran who did this, would we even be discussing this? No, not at all. Boldin signed with us to play, he chose to retire...as the rules state, he can play with us since we own his rights. OR, we can trade him, which we are seemingly facilitating. What is wrong with that? The Bills oppressing him would be if Boldin said "hey I want to come back", and the Bills responded by saying "We don't want you, so sit at home, K Bye" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 He had the freedom to sign with any team. He signed with the Bills. He did not buy in and decided that he would rather save the world. Now that he has saved the world, he wants to play football. He has a contract with the Bills. Because he has a contract with the Bills, he can play for the Bills or seek permission for a trade. What's the problem? Excellent summation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 old cows have a porpoise. Old NFL players, not so much. A 14 yr old cow is worth as much as a 3 yr old cow. Poor comparison unless you want me to slap down Boldin, brand his ass and castrate him. If Boldin is grass-fed, do you think we can get a 3rd round pick for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 old cows have a porpoise. Old NFL players, not so much. A 14 yr old cow is worth as much as a 3 yr old cow. Poor comparison unless you want me to slap down Boldin, brand his ass and castrate him. ok. Lets say you have dairy cows. You rent a 2005 County Fair Grand Champion thinking it will produce quality milk and youre down two or three good cows. So you milk that beast and find out the quality sucks. So you bring in a few new cows and find out they produce decent milk. Then your old cow (that produced low quality milk while it was in your barn) wanders out into pasture for a few weeks. While in the pasture, she gazes over to Old Man Peebodies farm and sees the green hills and nice clean sawdust in the barn and thinks I can still make milk for Old Man Peebody. You sense that the old cow wanted to go to the neighbors farm. Who are you to deprive the old girl one last chance to make a difference? She deserves a chance to make milk for another farm. Open that gate, swat her in the ass and let her run!! Heyawww. Go on now. Git!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 If Boldin is grass-fed, do you think we can get a 3rd round pick for him? no way. Even the best grass is 18% protein. There is no way he would be able to maintain a physique required to play in the league with so little protein. ok. Lets say you have dairy cows. You rent a 2005 County Fair Grand Champion thinking it will produce quality milk and youre down two or three good cows. So you milk that beast and find out the quality sucks. So you bring in a few new cows and find out they produce decent milk. Then your old cow (that produced low quality milk while it was in your barn) wanders out into pasture for a few weeks. While in the pasture, she gazes over to Old Man Peebodies farm and sees the green hills and nice clean sawdust in the barn and thinks I can still make milk for Old Man Peebody. You sense that the old cow wanted to go to the neighbors farm. Who are you to deprive the old girl one last chance to make a difference? She deserves a chance to make milk for another farm. Open that gate, swat her in the ass and let her run!! Heyawww. Go on now. Git!!John Stewart,the douche from comedy Central bought a retirement farm in VA. He is basically wasting tens of thousands a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Yea, my boss is oppressing me too because he expects me to do the work I signed my contract for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 If anything the Bills are being generous. They told his agent to go ahead and work something out that works for his client. The Bills could have told him he plays for the Bills or no one. Or that the Bills would shop him themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Yea, my boss is oppressing me too because he expects me to do the work I signed my contract for. Yeah, but are YOU spending weekends fighting social injustice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Contractual rights. It's a business and both parties knew that when they signed said contract. And I never did hear how the signing bonus was handled when AB 'retired'... This 100%. His "dreams" are not the Bills concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 This is probably covered in this huge thread, but couldn't Boldin just un-retire, report to the facility and essentially force the team to release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 This 100%. His "dreams" are not the Bills concern. I hope the day never comes in which someone shatters your dreams. I wouldn't wish this hell on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I hope this is a joke... if not it should be. Nice way to try and stir to pot by the original poster, lets make it a race thing... NICE JOB! WE OWE HIM NOTHING... he is under contract with the bills... Sit for the year would have been my answer, not because he is black, but because he quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 How on earth are you still successfully trolling people on page 6? Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I hope the day never comes in which someone shatters your dreams. I wouldn't wish this hell on anyone. You're not saying that somehow Boldin is having his dreams shattered, are you? I mean, that would be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 I hope this is a joke... if not it should be. Nice way to try and stir to pot by the original poster, lets make it a race thing... NICE JOB! WE OWE HIM NOTHING... he is under contract with the bills... Sit for the year would have been my answer, not because he is black, but because he quit. Please re-read my OP. There is NOTHING AT ALL that points to race. This is worse than what Sony put George Michael through. And no ... not because he may/may not have been gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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