Bangarang Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Punish yourself. For? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yeah, trading a wr with top 5 ability for a cb with 2 INTs is a great move! Â Interceptions are not the only measure of a CB. Or even the most important one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Damn you Doug Whaley!!!! Â Trade a WR for a CB and a CB for a WR??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryhood280 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think I'm ok with this. Got two really good picks, and two decent replacements for a player that may not be able to stay healthy, may not be able to resign, and another young CB who has been inconsistent. Â 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds next year. Took advantage of the Eagles desperation for CBs. Darby for Matthews and a 3rd is big value independent of the Watkins trade. Â I don't see this as a tank move unless Shady is traded. Â That said, whoa, this is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Jesus, Matthews is the Eagles third best WR. Decent slot guy, but we now have 3 slot receivers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Rams are likely going to be pretty bad so that will be a good 2nd round pick Rams are all in for Goff, he he sucks their doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Why did they bring him back then? Why stop here, why not deal McCoy? Why bring in Boldin? If you want to tank, TANK!! Don't do this bs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hated the trade when i heard it, now I'm warming up to it. I don't think this makes us that much less competitive this year. They must have not been 100% on Sammy's health and were probably 100% he wouldn't be here next year. They are all in on next years draft now. As far as EJ Gaines goes. I'm admittly a Mizzou homer but have him seen him play a lot. He's a good CB. Tall, physical, good ball skills and is a tackling machine. He's bigger than Darby, tackles better but isn't quite as athletic. He's a better fit than Darby for the new scheme. Gaines is a good player. Now this is the sort of reaction we all know and love here. Baghdad Bob lives! (Gaines sucked last year, btw, and he has had a lot of injuries.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Has anyone heard from Kirby or bandit? I'm worried  I'm here...but I'm pissed.  I'm sick to my stomach. This just confirms my biggest fear about handing the organization to young guys that are the "smartest guys in the room." It has that McDaniels feel to me at the moment. These are terrible trades.  Agree--I'm going to be ill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 All I can really think of is Sammy doesn't fit McDermott's new culture or something. Â He seems to want total team first guys, not guys who go to the media asking for at least 10 targets a game? Â You can really see what he's looking for in guys like Zay Jones and Tre White. Maybe Sammy doesn't fit that mould... maybe there was something we were not seeing in practice or the locker room. Â That's about all I got... man what a painful day today is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 John Murphy actually on the air trying to spin this. He must not want to miss out on being invited over Russ's house for dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Why did they bring him back then? Why stop here, why not deal McCoy? Why bring in Boldin? If you want to tank, TANK!! Don't do this bs!!hmmm well McCoy dressed and didn't play last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Gonna get an early start on trout season. Hope the streams are running high in early Sept. 18 years and no playoffs. Bitchin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 John Murphy actually on the air trying to spin this. He must not want to miss out on being invited over Russ's house for dinner  "this is not a tank" MY A$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 For? Matthews is a bum. I'm not even a Watkins guy but it's turrible. turrible. turrible. Â We now have the SLOWEST group of WR's. Matthews and Zay is a horrible long term combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Â Interceptions are not the only measure of a CB. Or even the most important one. How about being one of the worst rated CBs in the NFL last year by both PFF and PFR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 At least this board's love affair with Sammy is over   Why keep TT now? Trade him too like to the Ravens. TT is good enough now to put us at 5-11 and still not high enough to get a QB in the draft  Shady gone too maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Why did they bring him back then? Why stop here, why not deal McCoy? Why bring in Boldin? If you want to tank, TANK!! Don't do this bs!! Â Sammy is gone at the end of the year, he was never going to sign here. They just tried to get compensation with picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I guess there's this  Yea but like a poster says he dropped a few balls...  At least he's on the field!!!  I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Jesus, Matthews is the Eagles third best WR. Decent slot guy, but we now have 3 slot receivers! Â Perfect for this O.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I look at it like this - we were probably far apart on contract talks if there was interest at all. That means a franchise tag, or nothing but a comp pick. Comp pick maxes out at the end of the 3rd and we wouldnt get it until 2019. It's maximizing an asset. Â Gaines was brought in to allow us to do the darby trade - which brings us a 1year replacement in Matthews, plus a player who may be more likely to sign an extension if he succeeds here. Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I just signed up for NFL game pass . What a waste of money. I was expecting to see a nice 8-8 9-7 season . This sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Â Sammy is gone at the end of the year, he was never going to sign here. They just tried to get compensation with picks. When the patriots do it they're geniuses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 hmmm well McCoy dressed and didn't play last night. interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 What part of this is shocking? He has not lived up to his hype or draft status. He has talked money and I feel the Bills knew he was going to price himself out of their range, so get something for him. Â We WILL be using both 1st's for a QB next year, you can bet on it now. Look for Bolden to extend his contract soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Jeez...This day will go down in Bills history for sure...We'll see if it's positive or negative... Â Just wow...Can't even process this yet...I'm seriously in shock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hated the trade when i heard it, now I'm warming up to it. I don't think this makes us that much less competitive this year. They must have not been 100% on Sammy's health and were probably 100% he wouldn't be here next year. They are all in on next years draft now. As far as EJ Gaines goes. I'm admittly a Mizzou homer but have him seen him play a lot. He's a good CB. Tall, physical, good ball skills and is a tackling machine. He's bigger than Darby, tackles better but isn't quite as athletic. He's a better fit than Darby for the new scheme. Gaines is a good player. Â Um, EJ Gaines is not tall (he's 5'10"); he's smaller than Darby. He also has extremely short arms. I don't see how he's a better fit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradumbass Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 What could we be possibly tanking for with the Jets and Browns existing in the league? The 3rd best QB in next years draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 John Murphy actually on the air trying to spin this. He must not want to miss out on being invited over Russ's house for dinner Would you expect anything less? Chris Brown spinning right along with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 So we are tanking? Don't any of you remember our record without Sammy last year? Did he really win that many games for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 was a big fan of both players, but who cares at this point anymore. Â gotta try new things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This. Â !@#$ing idiots. Typical bills. The good news is we no longer need to worry about depth. Worrying about the starters will keep us occupied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 This seems Vaguely Familiar of Chip Kelly's ego moves with the Eagles very very odd. Â There are injury concerns starting to come out on Twitter about Sammy's rehab just now perhaps it comes down to that but my theory is they saw how bad their depth was last night and decided this morning to go right into tank mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The Darby trade seems okay, but Watkins for a 6th round draft pick who has had a Lisfranc injury for Watkins does not feel right. If we wanted to trade Watkins, I feel like we could have gotten a better player or more draft picks for him. Timing of trade is odd as we traded Sammy at a point in which his value was lowest. Probably should have waited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 John Murphy is spinning this as best as he can right nowhe probably would say it's silly to act like OBJ made the Sammy trade up look bad...now all of a sudden he's saying Mathews is more productive and probably as good as Sammy. This guy is a just an add for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Â Um, EJ Gaines is not tall (he's 5'10"); he's smaller than Darby. He also has extremely short arms. I don't see how he's a better fit at all. Â Hes on the last year of a deal, and fills the gap in the lineup for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_21 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 murphy show is damn funny in how big of homer/shills they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I bet you they are not done with trades in my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Â I'm here...but I'm pissed. Â Â Agree--I'm going to be ill Hey we can agree on Watkins for once! This is very bad. Worst combo of talent at WR, you can trot scrubs out there that you don't invest in. You have a 2nd rounder and now Matthews who are both to slow to play without an ELITE supporting piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 The good news is we no longer need to worry about depth. Worrying about the starters will keep us occupied. Â also dont have to hear about sammys foot anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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