FLFan Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Jay SkurskiVerified account @JaySkurski 16m16 minutes ago More [bN] Blitz: Nashville police are investigating former #Bills coach Rex Ryan after his bar scuffle over the weekend. Thought I would lighten it up a bit in here with this Ryan post. I hope he gets busted and loses his ESPN deal. Sore loser is know, but screw him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Exactly I think on the outside people view Sammy as an elite deep guy. The reality is he can do it all. He can kill you in a possession role as well. how is that exactly? by dropping short throws over the middle? which is what he did constantly in 2 years here, count his screen plays...there has been 1 in 3 years, because he absolutely sucks with his back to the defense. obviously afraid to get re injured is why, but still he has sucked for 3 years in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) how is that exactly? by dropping short throws over the middle? which is what he did constantly in 2 years here, count his screen plays...there has been 1 in 3 years, because he absolutely sucks with his back to the defense. obviously afraid to get re injured is why, but still he has sucked for 3 years in that regard.Smart take, said nobody ever... Watkins & WRs isn't your area of expertise obviously. Edited June 8, 2017 by r00tabaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Possible Maclin using Ravens as leverage and Ravens using Maclin as leverage. Maclin trying to get his price from the Bills and Ravens trying to get Decker at their price from the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 how is that exactly? by dropping short throws over the middle? which is what he did constantly in 2 years here, count his screen plays...there has been 1 in 3 years, because he absolutely sucks with his back to the defense. obviously afraid to get re injured is why, but still he has sucked for 3 years in that regard.He has 9 career drops. Is that constantly? 3.26% drop percentage, I think you need to use the Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Ha ha, poor Revis, he pretty much ended his career. Well, Revis may be many things, but POOR is not one of them! That little mercenary made boatloads of cash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Well, Revis may be many things, but POOR is not one of them! That little mercenary made boatloads of cash! Ha ha, touché Revis would sell his soul for another $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Ha ha, touché Revis would sell his soul for another $20. The only offer I know of on the table is for $10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Gerald Hodges left a couple of weeks ago without a contract went to the Giants and came back a day later to sign with the Bills so you never know. And I personally wanted Hodges a lot more than I do Macklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Well if reports are true he wants 7 million a year then I hope they don't sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Yeah, I think that $7M/year is a little steep. A 1-year $4-5M deal I could live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 He has 9 career drops. Is that constantly? 3.26% drop percentage, I think you need to use the Google. How dare you offer fact to the re enlightener! His hot take was the product of seconds of mental research! Yeah, I think that $7M/year is a little steep. A 1-year $4-5M deal I could live with. Why is it steep? He is a consistent 1000 yard receiver when healthy. I'd say that's the going rate, even at 29.The 4.5 would work if he had fewer suitors, but sadly for us he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Yeah, I think that $7M/year is a little steep. A 1-year $4-5M deal I could live with. Who is his agent ?Show me the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Who is his agent ?Show me the money. One of the very best in the biz. That is an element to this for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 He has 9 career drops. Is that constantly? 3.26% drop percentage, I think you need to use the Google. Don't bother. He has something against Sammy. He basically makes outlandish statements about him just for entertainment purposes. Facts don't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Maclin combine - 4.45. Woods - 4.51. Watkins - 4.43 I've always thought of Maclin as a guy who doesn't have top end speed but enough speed to get deep. Woods had barely enough deep speed. There's no question that Maclin, when healthy, is a deep threat. I think of him as an elite #2 receiver (or a marginal #1). If healthy, Sammy and Maclin on the field together would be one of the best tandems in the league. Im aware if their combine speeds Shaw. But there really is a difference when you are wearing a helmet, pads, and gear required to play the position. Thats why I posted the website that showed a recorded speed of maclin along with others in the field in 2015, as such he had a top five speed out of all players recorded in 2015. Faster than watkins albeit not by much. Playing football as you know is much different than running in shorts and a shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Don't bother. He has something against Sammy. He basically makes outlandish statements about him just for entertainment purposes. Facts don't matter Outlandish statements don't win people over. You just end up looking like an idiot. If you have something against Sammy I'd probably talk about his availability. At least it has some merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 We don't know what he wants, but the Bills know exactly what he wants. Both sides are pretty direct about what they want in these things. If they're close enough that they think they can make a deal, they talk about how they could restructure to get enough of what both sides want. Obviously, that process wasn't able to bridge the gap in Buffalo. Maybe it will work for Maclin in Baltimore, and maybe it won't. If it won't, he'll reconsider his own idea of his value and keep looking. It's important to remember that teams have wildly different views of the value of players. The value to any given team varies with the teams' cap situation, the talent it has at the same position, the age of the talent they have, the impact they think the player would have on the team's play. Beane and McDermott think about factors like that and other factors, and they decide what it's worth to pay for the player. The circumstances at the Ravens will generate a different number. It doesn't mean Beane was wrong and the Ravens guy was right. (Much like the Gillislee decision - just because he was worth $4 million to the Pats doesn't mean that he was worth $4 million to the Bills.) this is some very fine perspective and should be noted as such. on Occasion it seems perspective gets muddled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_Bills Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) I don't really trust people that talk about themselves in the third person, but that's just me. On the other hand, my very frugal uncle used to talk about himself in the third person. If McBean is frugal and that is why Maclin left without signing, I'm ok with that, or should I say, "Dulles is ok with that."? For a couple years, our front office seemed to be like the parent who always lets the kiddos come home with a new toy on every shopping trip. McBean seems to be more like the parent who isn't prone to impulse spending. Case in point: our new LB. We wanted him, but they waited to see what the market really demanded. I like that type of negotiation. This comment reminded me of a few years back when the Mets current GM held onto his young talent at the trade deadline instead of making a splashy move. Mets fans were rewarded with a World Series appearance a few years later that was based in large part on the young talent that was retained. I'm still in favor of bringing Maclin in, but it should be done on sensible terms. Won't be able to judge the FO on this until he signs somewhere, but they didn't make an impulsive offer despite moving quickly to bring him in for the visit. Both are encouraging signs to me. Edited June 8, 2017 by LI_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 One question....why do people keep,bringing Woods and Glass Jaw Goodwin into the conversation? They are gone right? This means you need to compare his worth against the team we have now right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I think that outsiders would say that the Bills need a solid possession guy to go with gamebreaker Sammy. We, and the Bills, likely feel we have that in Zay Jones and we want a deep threat to complement Sammy and Zay, allowing Jones to play the slot as a rookie. seems correct Very plausible...I also think $14 million total over 2 years is the magic number....if the Bills were at $4.5 million guaranteed for 2017 and $9.5 team option for next year...they met the standard but Condon didn't like the mix. I think the Bills held back a million shift to 2017 to respond to the Ravens offer if there is one. The old regime would have put all the chips on the table. The new regime says we have a great situation for Maclin here-- he would thrive -- but lets make sure we don't get shopped and then not have a response. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an agreement to check with the Bills before signing anything with another team. well posted JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Maclin wasn't going to make or break this season. Tyrod can't carry this team with his arm. He'd be better off going to Baltimore anyway. They have a much easier path to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 If Maclin doesn't sign here then we should cut McCoy and sign Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller.....then bring back Rob Ryan as defensive assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 If Maclin doesn't sign here then we should cut McCoy and sign Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller.....then bring back Rob Ryan as defensive assistant. Some here ,would go for that. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Some here ,would go for that. Sad but true. I'm all for it! I want them to bring in Rob Johnson as assistant DB coach though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'm all for it! I want them to bring in Rob Johnson as assistant DB coach though. I am also all in on this. Bring Wade Phillips and/or Dick Jauron back as red flag advisers in the booth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I am also all in on this. Bring Wade Phillips and/or Dick Jauron back as red flag advisers in the booth. Jauron would be brought back as a motivational speaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Reading some tonight on twitter about how the Ravens always get their man when they target a UFA.....smug MFers...would love for the Bills to take them down a notch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Reading some tonight on twitter about how the Ravens always get their man when they target a UFA.....smug MFers...would love for the Bills to take them down a notch... Not even to stick it to them, but would hate for Maclin to make a play as a Raven around that AFC-wildcard-deciding time of the year that helps them to a big win. Would love for him to make that play for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Reading some tonight on twitter about how the Ravens always get their man when they target a UFA.....smug MFers...would love for the Bills to take them down a notch...Why? If your biggest issue is with the Ravens, you are looking in the wrong places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Why? If your biggest issue is with the Ravens, you are looking in the wrong places. Smug confidence more than anything...its almost Patriots like. I was more expressing that it would be nice to win one of these true head to head matchups for a player against a team and organization that is deemed superior by most pundits. That's it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Bills hold many variables. Won't be surprised if we hear he's coming back to Buffalo tomorrow night or Friday to sign a contract. Some silly statements on here after Mackin left Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 So much for McCoy being such a great recruiter. He couldn't even get his close friend to sign with the Bills. Well he can't offer contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Well he can't offer contracts. Or make people accept them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Or make people accept them. But he's signing players daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Or make people accept them. Waking up with a horse head in your bed makes some people reconsider..... Not that I'm advocating that, but if you have an extra horse head laying around.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 He's washed up.. I'm glad we let him walk. WR is a young mans position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Waking up with a horse head in your bed makes some people reconsider..... Not that I'm advocating that, but if you have an extra horse head laying around.... That's really funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Smug confidence more than anything...its almost Patriots like. I was more expressing that it would be nice to win one of these true head to head matchups for a player against a team and organization that is deemed superior by most pundits. That's it... I loved the Ravens smug confidence. They were the only team in the AFC that was never afraid of the Pats* and were able to beat them and beat them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 FIRE WHALEY Really made me laugh! yep. Rochester has the best Tortas ever. Fast food mexican, is fast food BTW i will recommend a tiny little Family owned Taqueria hidden in East Rochester named Guacamole . Those attending St John this season should be sure to stop in Hey, fast food Mexican is not fast food! Awesome tip on the Roch Taqueria! Agree that everyone should go there and skip Chili's near the thruway. If that's even still there. Been a while since I went to Bills camp. FIRE BRANDON BEANE Also made me laugh. 165 followers but fwiw @bud_rocks Maclin contract fell apart on guaranteed $ the #Bills were firm on a partial deal with incentives of games played & performance bonuses! I got no problem with the Bills laying out a plan and sticking with it. I trust this crew now. We are rising. Do you think Harbaugh lets Maclin get out of Baltimore If he really wants him? I can hear him now, gearing for another championship run, Flacco can get you the football, I know Tyrod Taylors limitations, yada, yada ,yada sigh... Very true but a man's got to know his limitations. Tyrod can't excel Flacco at the end of the day so, it is what it is. C'est La Vie So much for McCoy being such a great recruiter. He couldn't even get his close friend to sign with the Bills. Hmmm, will they show me the money I want? If we're millions apart friendships shouldn't matter. Well it wouldn't for me if I wanted 7 and was offered 4 I would also be travelling to B'More. Then Den then wherever my agent steered me. Gerald Hodges left a couple of weeks ago without a contract went to the Giants and came back a day later to sign with the Bills so you never know. And I personally wanted Hodges a lot more than I do Macklin. This Hodges guy has the under the radar signing winning the off season title. Tell me why? I'm certainly not knocking it and ask respectfully. I hope he is the unexpected payoff for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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