BuffaloBill Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 So who would you say was the worst QB to start and play at least one regular season game for the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Dan Darragh, and it's not close for 2nd place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Did BJH start one? Teul comes to recent memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Sorry but replacement QB Willie Totten wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Leo Hart, 1972 stat line: 6-15-53-0-3 and sacked 4 times. 0-1 as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Squirrel Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I only remember back to '75 so I can't say anything about Darragh and Hart, so my vote goes to Bruce Mathison, with Totten DQ'd because the games he played in were a joke and should have been erased from the records as soon as the real players came back. If Mathison tried to spike the ball, there was a good chance he'd miss the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I only remember back to '75 so I can't say anything about Darragh and Hart, so my vote goes to Bruce Mathison, with Totten DQ'd because the games he played in were a joke and should have been erased from the records as soon as the real players came back. If Mathison tried to spike the ball, there was a good chance he'd miss the ground. Can't be Bruce Mathison. He played too many games and the OP's criteria was one game. So, as the QB that played the worst in the fewer games wins out. Get the logic. Mathison sucked, but like the previous poster said, it isn't even close for second: http://www.nfl.com/player/brucemathison/2520334/careerstats http://www.nfl.com/player/dandarragh/2512467/profile But... Fair enough since you only go back to 1975. Bills go back to 1959 (1960). If it wasn't for Dan, Bills wouldn't have took OJ? Leo Hart, 1972 stat line: 6-15-53-0-3 and sacked 4 times. 0-1 as a starter. I guess you are right! 7.6 passer rating... Ding Ding, we have a winner. And fewer, the ultimate, games! (1 as starter)! http://www.nfl.com/player/leohart/2516029/profile EDIT: Leo might get DQ'd... Stats show him NOT starting any games. I will have to cross-check this. EDIT (2): Leo is back on top. Shows him starting one game! LoL http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HartLe00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy McFiddish Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It was at least one game and not specific to how many games, I was going with Bruce Mathison as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 If have to throw Gary Marangi's name into this competition. In 11 games in 1976, Marangi's completed 35% of his passes with 7 TDs and 16 INTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Bob Brodhead (1960): 4 games, 1 start, 1-0 (!!!), 7/25 for 75 yards, 3 INT -- QB rating 0.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Bob Brodhead (1960): 4 games, 1 start, 1-0 (!!!), 7/25 for 75 yards, 3 INT -- QB rating 0.0 Hard to argue with those kind of stats CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Bob Brodhead (1960): 4 games, 1 start, 1-0 (!!!), 7/25 for 75 yards, 3 INT -- QB rating 0.0 He won the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Vince Flopagammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 There's alot of candidates to choose from In recent memory, Travis Brown and Brian Brohm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 There's alot of candidates to choose from In recent memory, Travis Brown and Brian Brohm Yeah it's hard to believe that Brohm was supposed to be such a great pickup. While he was not consistently horrible Trentative also just crashed and burned. I really think with him the skills were there but the desire was not. He took that viscious hit in the Cardinals game and was never the same again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Billie Joe Hobert and Brian Brohm were horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Billie Jo Playbook. It's not even a contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Billy Joe Hobert for me. They've had some terrible players start a game but I think that a guy that didn't even know the plays takes the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'm going with Bruce Mathison. I lived in Miami from 1983-86 when Marino was killing it at QB and we had Mathison. I looked up his stats that season 4 TDs 14 interceptions 49% completion rate 22 sacks. We were getting beat up so bad in those days it was hard to be a Bills fan (especially with Kelly tearing it up in the USFL. Maybe I should change that to worst QB combo in 1985 as Ferragamo was just as bad 5 Tds 17 interceptions and 51% completion percentage. I don't know how he won 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) He won the game Exactly, automatically DQ'd from your op. Player wins... All stats can be zero and they are still the greatest thing since sliced bread! Edited July 19, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It's between Hobert and Tuel for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 It's between Hobert and Tuel for me. Tuel was better than i thought hed be actually. Brohm was rough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Tuel was better than i thought hed be actually. Brohm was rough Tuel threw for like 300 yards in that game. They moved the football. He is not good (or talented) but there have been many worse performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 He won the game Tells you all you need to know about assigning W/L records to QBs. It's a team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Ed Rutkowski. Hard to believe but he was a better County Exec than emergency QB. Would have beat Raiders in Oakland if he hadn't fumbled at the one yard line. 3 starts, 3 losses: 41 Completions 100 Attempts 41.0 completion percentage 380 yards 0 TDs 6 Ints 27.1 rating Edited July 19, 2016 by WotAGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Mathison. Every time, in the past 15 years, people here start complaining the Bills' QB is the "worst ever," I think "You never saw Bruce Mathison play, did you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Did BJH start one? Billie Joe Hobert and Brian Brohm were horrific. Billie Jo Playbook. It's not even a contest. Billy Joe Hobert for me. They've had some terrible players start a game but I think that a guy that didn't even know the plays takes the cake. It's between Hobert and Tuel for me. Hobert did not start any games, he only played in two games as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Brohm just worse than Tuel in my 14 years as a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) When you combine an 0-3-0 starting record and the following stat line: 29 Completions 79 Attempts 36.4 completion percentage 364 yards 4 TDs 7 Ints and his amazing 10 - 26 record as the Bills head coach.. I gotta go with Kay Stephenson...best thing about Kay is that he led to Marv....who may be the best mid-season replacement coach in NFL history.. Edited July 19, 2016 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't know if Travis Brown or Stan Gelbaugh ever started for the Bills. They were awful. Brohm is probably my answer. He was supposed to be a star, ended up as a 2nd rounder and then was a terrible pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 When you combine an 0-3-0 starting record and the following stat line: 29 Completions 79 Attempts 36.4 completion percentage 364 yards 4 TDs 7 Ints and his amazing 10 - 26 record as the Bills head coach.. I gotta go with Kay Stephenson...best thing about Kay is that he led to Marv....who may be the best mid-season replacement coach in NFL history.. Kay begat Hank "they took the sails out of our wind" Bullough, who begat Marv... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 When you combine an 0-3-0 starting record and the following stat line: 29 Completions 79 Attempts 36.4 completion percentage 364 yards 4 TDs 7 Ints and his amazing 10 - 26 record as the Bills head coach.. I gotta go with Kay Stephenson...best thing about Kay is that he led to Marv....who may be the best mid-season replacement coach in NFL history.. Gotta love a guy who was not only that bad a QB, but also thought the key to a good passing game was changing the color of the helmets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Bob Brodhead (1960): 4 games, 1 start, 1-0 (!!!), 7/25 for 75 yards, 3 INT -- QB rating 0.0 Undefeated as a starter!! People here would have been screaming to give him a long term contract. Edited July 20, 2016 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Gotta be between Leo Hart and Joe Dufek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Gotta be between Leo Hart and Joe Dufek. Joe Dufek won a game in replacement players, I think 6-3 against the Giants. Matt Cassel... Didn't he start opening day last year in a trick play that gained nothing? If so he started a game and had no yards passing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Gotta be between Leo Hart and Joe Dufek. Joe Defect gets my vote. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Leo Hart, 1972 stat line: 6-15-53-0-3 and sacked 4 times. 0-1 as a starter. holy ****. thats not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Squirrel Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) If have to throw Gary Marangi's name into this competition. In 11 games in 1976, Marangi's completed 35% of his passes with 7 TDs and 16 INTS. While I still lean toward Mathison, this is a good candidate, too. He was brutal; there would have been no single game record or final rushing title for OJ without this clod scaring the coaches away from throwing when behind. But again, I've got nothing to offer on anyone who took snaps prior to Ferguson. Edited July 20, 2016 by Red Squirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 So who would you say was the worst QB to start and play at least one regular season game for the Bills? BJ Hobert Leo Hart, 1972 stat line: 6-15-53-0-3 and sacked 4 times. 0-1 as a starter. winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Kay begat Hank "they took the sails out of our wind" Bullough, who begat Marv... Good catch eBall...forgot Hank....damn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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