Ennjay Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Seems a little strange to me. He took the risk if something went wrong and the team never signs him. No jokes or smartass, please. Does anyone have any insight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 happened to dante fowler last year. he got the same deal as he would have before tearing his knee apart. this is a shoulder so much less risk than a knee injury. it also happened during a practice and it wasn't riding a motorcycle or blowing his hand off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Seems a little strange to me. He took the risk if something went wrong and the team never signs him. No jokes or smartass, please. Does anyone have any insight? The surgery has a very low risk of failure and the Bills probably worked something out with him. There was very little chance something would have went wrong to where the Bills would not want to sign him at all. Now spleen surgery on the other hand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I think it will not effect negotiations at all......because it is a corrective procedure not due to a on field injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Players usually take out insurance before they do this type of surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I think it will not effect negotiations at all......because it is a corrective procedure not due to a on field injury.Where was he when he hurt himself? I thought a dummy was involved but I haven't been around much lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Considering they had to convince Lawson to get surgery, I'm sure they gave him written assurances that he/his family would be properly compensated if the surgery went bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Seems a little strange to me. He took the risk if something went wrong and the team never signs him. No jokes or smartass, please. Does anyone have any insight? Rookie contract values are pretty much known based on where the players are selected. No risk involved for him with all parties collectively making the decision that surgery was the best course of action in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Where was he when he hurt himself? I thought a dummy was involved but I haven't been around much lately. I honestly dont know what happened after the draft...I was really referring to that he played his whole college career with that it was.....so I didnt think it would effect contract negotiations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Seems a little strange to me. He took the risk if something went wrong and the team never signs him. No jokes or smartass, please. Does anyone have any insight? He's going to get the same contract he would have received if he didn't have surgery...not a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 If I was Lawson I wouldn't be to concerned with the current front office getting one over on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 He's going to get the same contract he would have received if he didn't have surgery...not a big dealYou seem to think than NFL contracts are slotted. Whatever gave you that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Not only slotted, but it is guaranteed if they participate in any team activities and get hurt during said activities, the club will honor the contract slot. Once he was drafted, and did not do this outside of football...no risk...and i do mean zero risk. Only think he would possibly lose out on is offset language....not a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) If I was Lawson I wouldn't be to concerned with the current front office getting one over on me. If he couldn't even tie his shoe laces then how could anyone expect him to hold a pen to sign his name on a contract. Surgery was 100% necessary. Edited May 26, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Players and teams sign agreements prior to players practicing. They state that if the player is injured during practices, conditioning or other team related activities they will negotiate as if the player had not sustained an injury. Teams have to honor those agreements or no player would ever practice again without a signed contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 The sooner the better. Back on the field quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 If he could even tie his shoe laces the how could anyone expect him to hold a pen to sign his name on a contract. Surgery was 100% necessary. smartass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Where was he when he hurt himself? I thought a dummy was involved but I haven't been around much lately. He was in the cafeteria and yes there was a dummy involved. It was Tapioca Tuesday and Rob shoved Shaq out of the way in a mad rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He was in the cafeteria and yes there was a dummy involved. It was Tapioca Tuesday and Rob shoved Shaq out of the way in a mad rush. points for creativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Seems a little strange to me. He took the risk if something went wrong and the team never signs him. No jokes or smartass, please. Does anyone have any insight? No reason not to, basically. Very likely he's picked up some insurance in case the surgery somehow absolutely fails, but that's a very unlikely eventuality, and the Bills are going to sign him in the next few weeks, so they won't have a chance to see if he can't come back anyway. And it's a surgery that people almost always recover from very well. No real downside for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Proves the Bills were keenly aware of the shoulder situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 With the rookie contract structure in place, the contract is slotted and the value pretty much pre-determined. Surgery or not, he'll get the same deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He will get his money. Wait. Are you his stepfather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think it will not effect negotiations at all......because it is a corrective procedure not due to a on field injury. There's not much to negotiate. The slot is set already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 You seem to think than NFL contracts are slotted. Whatever gave you that idea? I know...crazy thinking...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Where was he when he hurt himself? I thought a dummy was involved but I haven't been around much lately. I don't think Whaley was nearby when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He will get his money. This isn't a serious injury. He will be getting paid to rehab for the next 5-6 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He was in the cafeteria and yes there was a dummy involved. It was Tapioca Tuesday and Rob shoved Shaq out of the way in a mad rush. I have a feeling that's going to happen to a lot of guys this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Seems a little strange to me. He took the risk if something went wrong and the team never signs him. No jokes or smartass, please. Does anyone have any insight? He'll get paid.. If he was dominant in college with a bum shoulder think how good he could be with a fixed wing. He's our Kyle Williams replacement, and we still have Kyle so as disappoint as it is that he won't be in training camp his future is what were after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I can't think of a worse way to begin a business relationship between a player and an organization than for said organization to penalize said player in the first contract for having a surgery everyone knew would eventually be needed. In other words, this is a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Where was he when he hurt himself? I thought a dummy was involved but I haven't been around much lately. Youse am kee-rect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) to me they all honestly thought he would be good to go for this year, so no rush on Lawson's part to sign. I believe there was no deception on either side. he simply "did" something to it in OTAs which set it off unfortunately, which accelerated the surgery. this is football, guys get hurt all the time. as Whaley said , the human mind loves the game and loves to play it and watch it. but by no means is the human body designed in any way shape or form to handle the hits and twists and impacts it deals out. not by a long shot. this is a far less concerning version of Willis McGahee.... tremendous talent/damaged goods you get to pick at 19 when he should have gone top 5 or 10. He's a huge bargain... plus , this is the Bills we are talking about here (making this somewhat inevitable... Edited May 26, 2016 by 8and8-->NoMore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He was in the cafeteria and yes there was a dummy involved. It was Tapioca Tuesday and Rob shoved Shaq out of the way in a mad rush. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I have a feeling that's going to happen to a lot of guys this year.Don't worry. Rob gets his own trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) I have a feeling that's going to happen to a lot of guys this year. Well he stepped on Sammy's foot right before pushing Shaq. Rumor has it though that Pegula has had enough and will be replacing tapioca Tuesday with Turkeyburger Tuesday which should calm things down a bit.....at least until Steak and Eggs Saturday. Edited May 26, 2016 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Don't worry. Rob gets his own trough. Well I guess that's what happens when you are "big boned" and eat sleep and drink coaching. Probably a good sign. A buffed out coach isn't spending enough time in the film room.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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