3cheesenacho Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 We know he went to Pitt but I can't find anywhere what he studied. Was it at all related to management/sports management? I'd be curious to know his GPA as well. Same for the Ryan brothers, the pride and joy of Southwestern Oklahoma State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 why do you think it matters? Most GMs work as scouts and work their way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 We know he went to Pitt but I can't find anywhere what he studied. Was it at all related to management/sports management? I'd be curious to know his GPA as well. Same for the Ryan brothers, the pride and joy of Southwestern Oklahoma State.   Business Finance.  He was a retail stock broker on Wall Street before applying for an internship with the Steelers  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/05/16/buffalo-bills-general-manager-doug-whaley-wall-street/2191723/    CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/2009/01/04/Bouchette-on-the-Steelers-Bill-Cowher-s-brief-flirtation-with-Browns-a-peek-into-future/stories/200901040209 Â Whaley, an Upper St. Clair native who played at Pitt and graduated with a degree in business/finance, worked one year as a Wall Street stockbroker before he became a scouting intern with the Steelers in 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Wasn't it analytics? Â Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Puppeteering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I don't think matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Your mom went to college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWei44 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My sister lives in upper st Clair. So I've got that going for me, which is nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) People are often surprised to hear that he majored in Dialectic Philosophy, with a minor in Mime. Edited January 13, 2016 by Blue on Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 he majored in forwarding porn links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 He majored in broken dreams with a minor in betrayal. But it wasn't until he began coaching that he learned to punt from the 30 yard line so he's always evolving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalonian Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My sister lives in upper st Clair. So I've got that going for me, which is nice! "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My kids went to Upper St Clair (~16 kids with perfect board scores when my oldest graduated)...its certainly in the top 1% of high schools in the country. Got to see Whaley play for the championship all state team there. He's no dummy but I lost a bit of admiration for him when he allowed the Rob Ryan hire. Really, really hoping he knows what he is doing going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It just amazes me when people think GPA has anything t do with learning anything. Life lessons and other how to succeed lesson aren't part of the GPA and I have found I'd rather hire a bunch of people who had 3.0 GPA versus 4.0 since many of the folks who,had 3.0 lived and experienced college and learned the lessons for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It just amazes me when people think GPA has anything t do with learning anything. Life lessons and other how to succeed lesson aren't part of the GPA and I have found I'd rather hire a bunch of people who had 3.0 GPA versus 4.0 since many of the folks who,had 3.0 lived and experienced college and learned the lessons for life. Well you obviously don't run a business or manage people because that's the biggest line if self supporting malarkey ever. As someone with extensive experience with college kids, I'll take the high gpa kid over the mediocre "college experience" (see: immature, lazy) kid every time if we're talking entry level. Once you build a career and resume, gpa means nothing more than an indicator of potential drive, motivation, and intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I thought all college kids studied in drinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The topic of this thread screams "stalker". Who cares about his GPA, and major? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 he majored in forwarding porn links Hahahahaha thanks bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 why do you think it matters? Most GMs work as scouts and work their way up. Does it bother you that someone asks a simple question? he majored in forwarding porn links LOL porn for all haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Does it bother you that someone asks a simple question? Â It doesn't bother me. But I was asking why he thinks it is relevant. I have no idea what the OP is driving at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It doesn't bother me. But I was asking why he thinks it is relevant. I have no idea what the OP is driving at. It's relevant because Whaley is certainly not known for his eloquence, but obviously there are smart people out there who are not good public speakers. Everyone thought it was relevant that Marv Levy had a Harvard M.A. because it signaled that he has a high general level of intelligence, something that kind of came in handy in whatever career track he pursued even though English history isn't terribly relevant to NFL coaching .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's relevant because Whaley is certainly not known for his eloquence, but obviously there are smart people out there who are not good public speakers. Everyone thought it was relevant that Marv Levy had a Harvard M.A. because it signaled that he has a high general level of intelligence, something that kind of came in handy in whatever career track he pursued even though English history isn't terribly relevant to NFL coaching .... Â He's not a charismatic public speaker, but when I've heard him interviewed on radio he expresses himself clearly and well. I wouldn't call Whaley a poor public speaker. The only bone I have to pick is he chooses "big words" when smaller ones would do and occasionally uses them incorrectly, but that's not uncommon and I give him props for trying to show a good vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The topic of this thread screams "stalker". Who cares about his GPA, and major? Â Â LOL Â Â (I actually laughed out loud) Â Â Â Â Â CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It doesn't bother me. But I was asking why he thinks it is relevant. I have no idea what the OP is driving at. Â It's going to be a loooong offseason, I can see it now - "where did Rex used to eat lunch in high school?", "What was Terry Pegula's favorite car wash post-college?", "Did Russ Brandon get smiley faces or frowny faces on his pre-school report card?". Â Enquiring minds want to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It doesn't bother me. But I was asking why he thinks it is relevant. I have no idea what the OP is driving at. Then come right out and ask what he is getting at its pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Then come right out and ask what he is getting at its pretty simple. It's obvious what he's getting at. He's crying and whining and wants to let everyone know. Â College is irrelevant here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 He majored in broken dreams with a minor in betrayal. But it wasn't until he began coaching that he learned to punt from the 30 yard line so he's always evolving Wrong Doug! Â It doesn't bother me. But I was asking why he thinks it is relevant. I have no idea what the OP is driving at. HIPPA info no doubt. Â Â It's going to be a loooong offseason, I can see it now - "where did Rex used to eat lunch in high school?", "What was Terry Pegula's favorite car wash post-college?", "Did Russ Brandon get smiley faces or frowny faces on his pre-school report card?". Â Enquiring minds want to know... Wow, those are some excellent OPs to start some very enlightening threads with. Now get to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 He majored in broken dreams with a minor in betrayal. But it wasn't until he began coaching that he learned to punt from the 30 yard line so he's always evolvingI don't even get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I don't even get that. It must be a case of mistaken identity. kdiggz must think the thread is about St Doug, not the current GM Whaley. Or, kdiggz drank a case of something or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016   Business Finance.  He was a retail stock broker on Wall Street before applying for an internship with the Steelers  http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/05/16/buffalo-bills-general-manager-doug-whaley-wall-street/2191723/    CBF Then Whaley is smart.  College finance courses are difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My kids went to Upper St Clair (~16 kids with perfect board scores when my oldest graduated)...its certainly in the top 1% of high schools in the country. Got to see Whaley play for the championship all state team there. He's no dummy but I lost a bit of admiration for him when he allowed the Rob Ryan hire. Really, really hoping he knows what he is doing going forward. Â It's not Whaley's job to determine what assistants are on Rex Ryan's coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Well you obviously don't run a business or manage people because that's the biggest line if self supporting malarkey ever. As someone with extensive experience with college kids, I'll take the high gpa kid over the mediocre "college experience" (see: immature, lazy) kid every time if we're talking entry level. Once you build a career and resume, gpa means nothing more than an indicator of potential drive, motivation, and intelligence. Â must be a small business. grad school attendees and post grad school students, well, GPA literally means nothing. companies in general are starting to look for at the completion of the program, rather than where you finished. that's just fact. it's a societal shift. Â in regards to the bold text, studies show that GPA is NOTHING more than an indicator of how well an individual can retain new information. it is NOT an indicator of motivation, nor intelligence. GPA has never been an indicator of intelligence, and it is definitely NOT an indicator of how well someone will PERFORM or impact a business. Â that's very outdated thinking, that's often ridiculed by modern business and HR models. haha very very dated thinking. Â same could be said for athletes. just because you performed better than some in college, and got drafted first round, does not guarantee success at the next level. retaining information, which is all a GPA reflects, doesn't show adaptability, people skills, DRIVE, or work ethic. It's simply a number. Â Using this method of hiring or judgment in most cases, will land you employees that look good on paper, and nothing more. Edited January 13, 2016 by 87168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Â must be a small business. grad school attendees and post grad school students, well, GPA literally means nothing. companies in general are starting to look for at the completion of the program, rather than where you finished. that's just fact. it's a societal shift. Â in regards to the bold text, studies show that GPA is NOTHING more than an indicator of how well an individual can retain new information. it is NOT an indicator of motivation, nor intelligence. GPA has never been an indicator of intelligence, and it is definitely NOT an indicator of how well someone will PERFORM or impact a business. Â that's very outdated thinking, that's often ridiculed by modern business and HR models. haha very very dated thinking. Â same could be said for athletes. just because you performed better than some in college, and got drafted first round, does not guarantee success at the next level. retaining information, which is all a GPA reflects, doesn't show adaptability, people skills, DRIVE, or work ethic. It's simply a number. Â Using this method of hiring or judgment in most cases, will land you employees that look good on paper, and nothing more. Depends on the profession. My brother, who is a longtime chemical engineer at DuPont, says that for engineering hires GPA is EVERYTHING. Which makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 When I look at Doug Whaley, a few things come to mind before he even opens his mouth: Â 1) His eyes look lazy a lot and he looks stoned; 2) When he poses in a Press Conference photo with Terry, Russ, Rex and a new player, he always holds the ball tight in his arm (whereas Russ holds it like a schoolgirl on the playground) 3) He looks stoned...wait, did I say that already? Â I don't care if he went to Buff State, Yale or Alabama...the guy appears tough, innovative, hard working, and talented (see trade for Hughes, Shady, and draft of Darby, acquisition of Tyrod). Good work Doug!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Depends on the profession. My brother, who is a longtime chemical engineer at DuPont, says that for engineering hires GPA is EVERYTHING. Which makes sense. Â hm, yea. must be. my fiance whom is a Clinical Psychologist and works in Autism Research (at a university here in Seattle) will say otherwise, as well as my relative that works in HR for the largest software company on earth. Â anyone can take a closer look at what it takes to get into college, versus what it took in the 80's or 90's, and see the emphasis has shifted. Â my fiance applied for the same grad school of her choice and got rejected. Her GPA is a 3.9 from UB. Psych degree. She was told she needed more CLINICAL EXPERIENCE. she went out and got it, while interning at The Jacobs Institute in the BNMC. Next attempt, she gets in. Once she was in grad school, she realized that without that experience she would have been LOST in terms of implementation. keep in mind this was something that she couldn't do during her undergrad phase. Â again, it is no longer advantageous for companies to look at GPA as the main tool for hiring. It shows one thing and one thing only. Â but then again, different fields... Edited January 13, 2016 by 87168 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 My kids went to Upper St Clair (~16 kids with perfect board scores when my oldest graduated)...its certainly in the top 1% of high schools in the country. Got to see Whaley play for the championship all state team there. He's no dummy but I lost a bit of admiration for him when he allowed the Rob Ryan hire. Really, really hoping he knows what he is doing going forward. Â ??? Â Whaley controls the 53 man roster and scouting. He builds the draft board with input from others. Â Rex does not report to Whaley, and Whaley does not control or have approval over the hiring and firing of coaching assistants. He can give input of course, but he doesn't "allow" anything. Â Re: the Rob Ryan hire, having made the decision to retain Rex, it only makes sense for the Pegulas to give him complete freedom over his assistant coaching staff. But to whom much is given, much is expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I don't even get that. It must be a case of mistaken identity. kdiggz must think the thread is about St Doug, not the current GM Whaley. Or, kdiggz drank a case of something or other. Oops! Freudian slip. You mention the name Doug and I get all worked up. Sorry Mr. Whaley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's obvious what he's getting at. He's crying and whining and wants to let everyone know. Â College is irrelevant here. Damn whiners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I could swore he majored in Rogue Studies with a minor in office politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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