G-Daddy Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Wow. Some bombs going back and forth. Nice job with this hireYep, Russ had to have him and gave him the out clause to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Does Doug Marrone think the NY media are going to be all lollipops and sunshine? He took a mediocre program to a mediocre bowl game. Has never called plays. This team was carried by a defense he had little to do with it's success. Worked a lot with the offensive line....yikes, yet somehow this guy is the next coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The article is kinda lightweight and sounds hastily put together, but that supports what I'm hearing out of NY media: they don't want marrone coaching the jets. If casserly and marrone thought it was smooth sailing opting out and taking jets HC vacancy, they are sadly mistaken IMO. Never seen so much animosity directed at a candidate before he gets the job, and can't possibly imagine how an owner could go thru with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The article is kinda lightweight and sounds hastily put together, but that supports what I'm hearing out of NY media: they don't want marrone coaching the jets. If casserly and marrone thought it was smooth sailing opting out and taking jets HC vacancy, they are sadly mistaken IMO. Never seen so much animosity directed at a candidate before he gets the job, and can't possibly imagine how an owner could go thru with this. The Post's Steve Serby was all about kissing Marrone's ass on Thursday, so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) The Post's Steve Serby was all about kissing Marrone's ass on Thursday, so..... id like to see that article because all I'm hearing is negativity. Listened to mike lupica on espn ny radio via an app yesterday, and the entire show was focused on lambasting marrone. Saying how Rex is simply a better football coach and it's unacceptable to fire him and bring in marrone. Edited January 4, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I suspect there was tampering. If so, I hope it's found, and I hope El Pegual gets his $4M back. Ralph would have sued him for sure. At the very least just to take as long as legally allowed to cut that check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I am just so happy he is gone, you could see in his press conferences how phony he was (worried about injury reports).Russ Brandon should be fired for bringing this complete loser to the Bills and giving him everything he asked for (like he just won the national championship for Syracuse).The guy is a bully and if he is not hired by the Jets it would not surprise me that no team hires him if they do there due diligence which Russ Brandon did not due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 It's an interesting read, but Mehta clearly has an agenda that is only thinly disguised as journalism. Several lines really struck me that Mehta is being far from objective. Not that he needs to be. I would love to be able to take this article at face value, just for its calming value alone, but I can't. A lot has been said about Marrone since his decision to leave, and the more I read, the more I feel a sense of disgust. But, that might just be the frustration of looking forward to yet another year of rebuilding-- and after a 9-7 season, no less. Marrone's departure, regardless of how one feels about his performance, feels like a betrayal. All that being said: If, as this article suggests, Marrone does, indeed, feel the sting of negative press, He's going to hate New York/New Jersey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 He wouldn't allow any video clips on the website of EJ's INTs in practice? He and Geno are a match made in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Bills spin machine cranking into high gear. The nuggets about low level staffers and Marrone having to approve videos before they were posted to the website clearly came from inside the org. I'm sure many in the org were less than enamored with Marrone all along, but if you say anything while the machine is in motion and the regime is intact, you flush yourself down the drain. Now, the floodgates are open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Excellent article. Sounds like a number of Bills players and staff are sharing their true feelings about the man off the record now that he's out. Players are one thing, that's a special world. But I have no respect for people who treat the lower level employees poorly, which sounds like Marrone's specialty. And to think that a head coach is listening to idiot talk radio AND getting offended by fan criticism. Marrone has managed to work his way from "up and coming coach" in the general (non-Bills) NFL world just 5 days ago to "surly whiner with poor leadership skills" today. Well played, Doug. It was only a matter of time before things started leaking out opposing the view some in the media were putting forward the past few days. It's an interesting read, but Mehta clearly has an agenda that is only thinly disguised as journalism. Several lines really struck me that Mehta is being far from objective. Not that he needs to be. I would love to be able to take this article at face value, just for its calming value alone, but I can't. A lot has been said about Marrone since his decision to leave, and the more I read, the more I feel a sense of disgust. But, that might just be the frustration of looking forward to yet another year of rebuilding-- and after a 9-7 season, no less. Marrone's departure, regardless of how one feels about his performance, feels like a betrayal. All that being said: If, as this article suggests, Marrone does, indeed, feel the sting of negative press, He's going to hate New York/New Jersey! Mheta is a Syracuse grad too. Some in the NY media (unlike National media) are starting to question hiring Marrone. I also think that the air was thick the past few days hyping Marrone up. It's only natural journalists will look to dig into those claims. Its what they do. And they aren't blind. Marrone is underwhelming in general. Why were the national guys acting like he was a HOF'er already?? Edited January 4, 2015 by purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Post's Steve Serby was all about kissing Marrone's ass on Thursday, so..... What could Serby possibly write about Marrone that is positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 What could Serby possibly write about Marrone that is positive? He's...got a high motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 What could Serby possibly write about Marrone that is positive? Let me guess - he coached during a snowstorm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) id like to see that article because all I'm hearing is negativity. Listened to mike lupica on espn ny radio via an app yesterday, and the entire show was focused on lambasting marrone. Saying how Rex is simply a better football coach and it's unacceptable to fire him and bring in marrone. You have internet access? http://nypost.com/2015/01/01/why-bronxs-doug-marrone-would-be-a-perfect-fit-for-the-jets/ "Marrone not only knows the AFC East, he has proven to be a no-nonsense disciplinarian who isn’t afraid to make the tough decisions." "Marrone is a tough, fearless, blue-collar football guy with nerve who has a chance to be a young Tom Coughlin, and not only because they share a connection with Syracuse University." Edited January 4, 2015 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Colin Cowherd said the Jets should sign him "yesterday"! That carries a lot of clout. = sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51to3 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Or maybe …. it's a reveal of how steep the hill was that Marrone had to climb. Maybe the fights in training camp were a reflection of the degree the culture needed to change and how hard he pushed to make it happen. Maybe his attention on the O-line was a statement about the poor talent he was saddled with in this key area and his astute recognition of the same, rather than his inability to polish those t*s. Maybe Marrone made the bold move to bench E.J. because he saw what he had at exactly that time and knew it was holding the offence back. E.J. wasn't going to work. Is he thin skinned? Yes. Is he goal-oriented and socially inept? Yep. But to say that he was in no way responsible for pushing this team to an at least competent 9-7 record demonstrates agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Mheta is a Syracuse grad too. Some in the NY media (unlike National media) are starting to question hiring Marrone. I also think that the air was thick the past few days hyping Marrone up. It's only natural journalists will look to dig into those claims. Its what they do. And they aren't blind. Marrone is underwhelming in general. Why were the national guys acting like he was a HOF already?? I was listening to a lot of WFAN this week and it was so funny hearing the hosts talking about feedback they were getting from Bills fans. That their Bills fans friends were very eager for the Jets to hire Marrone. That Marrone opting out and going to the Jets was fantastic news to them...LOL You knew that they were slowly coming to the realization they were being fed some serious bs through national and some local NFL media outlets. Unfortunately the PR damage is probably done and the Jets will end up looking elsewhere and not hire Marrone. I so wanted the Jets hiring him to happen. I wonder if there are any Marrone supporters here who feel completely duped by this total phony. I couldn't stand him and I took every opportunity to unload on him. I am so happy that Marrone is no longer the head coach of the Bills. We Bills fans are very lucky he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think some of lazy New York Media guys like Colin Cowherd assumed Marrone was good and leaving Buffalo because everyone leaves Buffalo.Now that some of the key media guys are looking at what he reaily did they are hearing all the negative talk (and this will not be easy to sell to Jet fans).I remember reading the same comments from Syracuse people during the time we were looking at hiring him.Russ Brandon should be canned for hiring this loser and trying to sell him to fans as innovative and cutting edge type of coach.Marrone if you reaily think you deserved full credit for beating one of the NFL'S best in GB then you also deserve full blame for the key loss to one of the worst in Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think some of lazy New York Media guys like Colin Cowherd assumed Marrone was good and leaving Buffalo because everyone leaves Buffalo.Now that some of the key media guys are looking at what he reaily did they are hearing all the negative talk (and this will not be easy to sell to Jet fans).I remember reading the same comments from Syracuse people during the time we were looking at hiring him.Russ Brandon should be canned for hiring this loser and trying to sell him to fans as innovative and cutting edge type of coach.Marrone if you reaily think you deserved full credit for beating one of the NFL'S best in GB then you also deserve full blame for the key loss to one of the worst in Oakland. There's also the perception that a coach must be something special to get Buffalo to 9-7 because...y'know, it's Buffalo. Hell, he's getting credit for the win against the Jets in Detroit, which by the Bills' players' admission was their best week of preparation this season, in part because they were stuck at home with nothing to do but watch film. When your best-prepared week is a week when you don't directly interact with your players, you might just suck as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I am reminded of this snippet I posted from marrone's first TC. Rings true now, huh? http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/160551-some-inside-info-on-camp-marrone/ For what it's worth, I have an "inside source" (the best friend of one of the vets on the team), and he told me that there's a feeling amongst the vets that Marrone is somewhat over the top in terms of being hands on and controlling. The one example cited was that the Bills had a lesson during TC in how they were all supposed to stand during the national anthem (i.e., hold your helmet in this hand, put your feet like this, put your hand like this, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 So he's a real hot commodity? Interviews with NJ and ATL. No SF, Chi, Raiders? Don't call us, we'll call you St. Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Marrone is nothing more than a narcissistic bully. Gets his feelings hurt easily (BTW, turn WGR off- everyone else does), treats people like garbage, demeaning and belittling those beneath him. Sucks up to those who can help him (Brandon for one) and then trashes them behind their backs. Inflated ego, sense of self. Thinks he is better than everyone else when clearly he is not. Any doubt the Bills are not better off without him should be 100% erased. I hope the Jets sign him. They deserve whatever they get and I'll love watching the Bills kick their ass twice a year. Brandon needs to go too. Serious dysfunction with him at the top of the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You know, he deserves the Raiders, and the Raiders deserve him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Ok, Greeny @Espngreeny: Curtis Martin and Kevin Mawae strongly endorse their old coach Doug Marrone. To me, that's as good a recommendation as you can get. #Jets Edited January 4, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Ok, Greeny @Espngreeny: Curtis Martin and Kevin Mawae strongly endorse their old coach Doug Marrone. To me, that's as good a recommendation as you can get. #Jets A lot of things can happen to a guy and his ego and his impression of himself when he goes from OL coach (when they knew him) to OC for the Saints to HC of a college and get credit for turning around a program to Sainthood to HC in the NFL to winning record on the Bills (even if it was in spite of not because of). I'm sure St Doug was not so full of himself when they played for him over ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) When is someone going to finally blab on the Mike Williams story? Edited January 4, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) No ones posted this gem yet? @RyanTalbotBills: I can say with 100% certainty that Marrone didn't even text his players about leaving.He texted someone in the player personnel dept. #Bills @RyanTalbotBills: This isn't a source thing. I was told by someone in the Bills organization. Edited January 4, 2015 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 When is someone going to finally blab on the Mikf Williams story? Good question. Now that St. Doug, The Quitter, is gone, will the Bills bring back Mike Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) I do find one thing somewhat interesting pattern here. What does Tom Donahoe, Mike Mularkey, and Doug Marrone all have in common? They were all rather upset at how they were treated by the local media and fans constant ripping of them and help hasten their departure through different means. Both Marrone and Mularky's families were even upset about the treatment according to the rumors and affected their kids. One person, OK he's just thin skinned, two well maybe all coaches have similar personalities, but three people makes you start to wonder if the problem is the constant, the media? Now if you can show me evidence that this happens in every NFL city, then I'll take back my questioning. I'm not questioning the criticism, that happens all over but maybe when you compare the news about the Bills relative to other stories in the area, it becomes overwhelming and you just can't escape it and becomes too much for the people to handle. Obviously you hear much more about what's going on locally, but haven't heard these types of reports from other cities where coaches just couldn't handle the media criticism. Comments have been made if he can't handle Buffalo media, how would he ever handle NYC media. One difference though in the grand scheme of things, in a huge city like NY, football is very big to many people, but percentage wise, maybe not so big compared to a place like Buffalo where there are less alternatives and a greater percentage of people live and die for the Bill's, like the guy who called WGR in tears when the team was sold. Do people call into NYC sports radio in tears? My take on Marrone was didn't love the guy, but would rather have seen him stay another season for continuity and due tend to agree with many of the comments on Marrone in the article, his behavior did seem to agree with what the article stated. But with three similar stories involving Buffalo media and Bill's leaders, makes you wonder where the problem really is and did they have a valid complaint at least to some level? I'm sure most will disagree and blame it all on Marrone, and Mularky, and Donahoe. Maybe you're right, but all three, that just seems too much to blame the coaches. Edited January 4, 2015 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 No ones posted this gem yet? @RyanTalbotBills: I can say with 100% certainty that Marrone didn't even text his players about leaving.He texted someone in the player personnel dept. #Bills @RyanTalbotBills: This isn't a source thing. I was told by someone in the Bills organization. Not surprised! What a d*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Not surprised! What a d*ck. Then there's this... @lucky_lefty5: @nflnetwork what text?? That's Meeks Twitter handle for those who don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 @RyanTalbotBills: That person then forwarded Marrone's message along to the team.Perhaps Marrone has a texting plan & didn't want to go over his limit. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The whole Marrone thing has tarnished my opinion of Brandon too. He was such a strong supporter of Marrone. Makes Brandon look foolish and hurts his integrity in my opinion. Hard to take anything Brandon says as 100% truthful anymore. Schmuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 The whole Marrone thing has tarnished my opinion of Brandon too. He was such a strong supporter of Marrone. Makes Brandon look foolish and hurts his integrity in my opinion. Hard to take anything Brandon says as 100% truthful anymore. Schmuck.I really can't disagree. Very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 “He is the definition of average,” said a Buffalo source. - now THERE'S a quote for ya The more that time hoes by the happier I am that this guy left. He proved nothing in Buffalo. He was supposed to have a great mind for offense. His sucked. The o- line, even more a specialty to him personally, was a joke. What a waste of a season this was given just how good this defense was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 "Source" = local media (Gleason, Sal M.), is my guess. Still, it all sounds accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The whole Marrone thing has tarnished my opinion of Brandon too. He was such a strong supporter of Marrone. Makes Brandon look foolish and hurts his integrity in my opinion. Hard to take anything Brandon says as 100% truthful anymore. Schmuck. I have to agree, especially with how Brandon ranted two years ago that the Bills brand was tarnished, and the Bills FO would leave no stone unturned finding a HC that is aggressive and will dictate the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Not surprised! What a d*ck. Absolute dick move. For a guy who preached family and togetherness, not even informing the men you supposedly lead in person (team meeting or even a captain's meeting if players already scattered) is just unfathomable to me. But it also seems to sum up his character perfectly. @RyanTalbotBills: That person then forwarded Marrone's message along to the team.Perhaps Marrone has a texting plan & didn't want to go over his limit. #Bills Hey, $4 million goes fast if you don't watch those minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That bastage writer for the Daily News Manish Mehta...couldn't have said it all any better myself. I was just hoping he would be hired by the Jets before they found out about the real Maroon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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