YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) I just read this story and it's awfully weak. Reads more like a hatchet job than journalism. A lot of unattributed quotes and insinuations. I'm sure some Bills players hated him (Mike Williams) but no names and no numbers. In fact it almost reads like it was dictated to him by BN writers. I mean how does Manish know that Marrone was frustrated listening to the radio? Did he ask him? There's no quote from Marrone. It has close similarities to the Lacanfora story that broke right before Game 1. There are sources at OBD who clearly wanted him gone. Edited January 4, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Interesting that they mentioned he had a vendetta against Goodwin in addition to Mike W and urbik. Yes Goodwin was hurt often but he was also healthy scratched at the end of the year. #freemarquise Also lends credence to the criticism that he played too tight and too conservative and didn't want to go down the field and didn't use his playmakers and played not to lose rather than to win. No wonder him and Whaley didn't get along. Whaley gets him playmakers and Marrone doesn't want to play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also lends credence to the criticism that he played too tight and too conservative and didn't want to go down the field and didn't use his playmakers and played not to lose rather than to win. No wonder him and Whaley didn't get along. Whaley gets him playmakers and Marrone doesn't want to play them. But he did want to B word about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If even have of this is the truth, what does this tell you about a poor interview process we went through. Even at the first sign of this stuff should Russ (Nix was gone) should have done something about the hostile work environment for the staffers. How do you not cut the cord, etc. Talk about blind leadership from Russ. It is the opposite of the culture he was trying to create back when Levy was here as GM. That being said, how does Russ even look now to Pegula? What a fuggin liar he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 So playing devils advocate, is it possible that Marroene's limiting of Hackett's play calling, was the bigger problem than Hackett's ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 But he did want to B word about them. He actually might even be worse than Gregg Stalin, Adolph Donahone, Jane Mularkey and Dickless Juaron all combined... So playing devils advocate, is it possible that Marroene's limiting of Hackett's play calling, was the bigger problem than Hackett's ability? Like everything lately with this team - who the hell knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 He actually might even be worse than Gregg Stalin, Adolph Donahone, Jane Mularkey and Dickless Juaron all combined... He might be when it's all over. The venom being unleashed by the local media and "insiders" must have been building for awhile... it's hilarious to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If even have of this is the truth, what does this tell you about a poor interview process we went through. Even at the first sign of this stuff should Russ (Nix was gone) should have done something about the hostile work environment for the staffers. How do you not cut the cord, etc. Talk about blind leadership from Russ. It is the opposite of the culture he was trying to create back when Levy was here as GM. That being said, how does Russ even look now to Pegula? What a fuggin liar he is... Remind me, what did Russ lie about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 So playing devils advocate, is it possible that Marroene's limiting of Hackett's play calling, was the bigger problem than Hackett's ability? Who cares at this point? I am willing to risk letting Hackett go and having him blossom into a competent coordinator. Good riddance to both of them. Their pathetic reign is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Remind me, what did Russ lie about? "Marrone's changing the culture", at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also lends credence to the criticism that he played too tight and too conservative and didn't want to go down the field and didn't use his playmakers and played not to lose rather than to win. No wonder him and Whaley didn't get along. Whaley gets him playmakers and Marrone doesn't want to play them. Also lends credence to EJ Manuel not being the bust many here think that he is. Tom Brady would suck if his OC called for the ball up the middle twice in a row and then called for a swing pass to the RB on third and six on almost every series of downs. So glad we will finally see what Manuel can do in a real NFL offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 It has close similarities to the Lacanfora story that broke right before Game 1. There are sources at OBD who clearly wanted him gone. I'm not debating that Doug Marrone is a grade A D-bag but that story by Manish Mehta doesn't have a single attributable quote on anything except the Aaron Williams quote given after Week 11 and you don't even know what that was in relation to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I'm not debating that Doug Marrone is a grade A D-bag but that story by Manish Mehta doesn't have a single attributable quote on anything except the Aaron Williams quote given after Week 11 and you don't even know what that was in relation to. That was after the 4th and 1 punt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Also lends credence to EJ Manuel not being the bust many here think that he is. Tom Brady would suck if his OC called for the ball up the middle twice in a row and then called for a swing pass to the RB on third and six on almost every series of downs. So glad we will finally see what Manuel can do in a real NFL offense. when I read this from Trent Dilfer, it made me think of EJ's second season @BrendanLeister: Too many coaches act in the way Trent Dilfer describes his NFL coaches. Its a shame. http://t.co/da2MSSJ2aY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I'm not debating that Doug Marrone is a grade A D-bag but that story by Manish Mehta doesn't have a single attributable quote on anything except the Aaron Williams quote given after Week 11 and you don't even know what that was in relation to. Come on....you think anyone's going on the record with that stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Players won't go on record because they never know when they could be playing for him again somewhere. Burning bridges not wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Its why ive tried to stay supportive of EJ. Ive been convinced the coaches have been in his ear saying, do this dont do that. Hold your elbow this way when you throw, have your feet that way. Just let the guy play his game, has always been my opinion. Overcoaching, id tell him, go out, play your game, have fun, and BEAT THE OTHER GUY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) If he really spent that much time with the O-Line (his 'specialty'), and they regressed that much, he's not a good teacher at all. SMDH Makes you wonder if Hackett was really that bad, or was Saint Dougie holding him back. Edited January 4, 2015 by BmarvB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 "Marrone's changing the culture", at least That is where I was going... I might need to retract that as he sure did seem to change the culture...not exactly how I envisioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Players won't go on record because they never know when they could be playing for him again somewhere. Burning bridges not wise. But I just feel like he would've said "unnamed players" or "unnamed staffers." He didn't, so I conclude it was local media sources. I agree with PTR for once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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