Offside Number 76 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Touche. At this time, it is not illegal to purchase for personal use. I would say to those people who buy a number of jerseys for the bulk price, as I remember several people here said they do, and either give or sell (even for just the cost) jerseys to other people are committing a crime, according to lawyers on a few sites I've seen, as the text reads that this simple "distribution" qualifies as illegal in the flow of counterfeit material. But the point about the NFL not taking kindly to TBD not moderating threads that include links to Chinese counterfeiters and illegal game streams does stand. And this is subject to get much stickier whenever some derivative of SOPA passes. Except there was no link to Chinese counterfeiters. There were links to new designs and one guy's remark, a few posts later, about Chinese counterfeiters. If there were a link to Chinese counterfeiters, Scott would be wise to remove it and reprimand/expel the poster. That's not what happened here, and I don't think the NFL's suits are going to give a **** that someone made a remark. They're powerful, sure, but they're too busy for this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 So you publish your source code to the web because someone is just going to steal it anyway and why hide behind a skirt when you can just write more code? Competition is one thing; theft is another. Not sure I follow your thought process completely here. I do work on open source projects so in effect that code is published "to the web". And people take pieces of it all the time and turn them into applications that they make money on. When the counterfeiters make jerseys that for all intents and purposes are physically the same as the ones you purchase from the NFL, that is competition. It is license infringement and therefore illegal, but it is not theft. Theft would be if they robbed whatever Chinese factory makes the Reebok/Nike jerseys then sold what they stole. And this is subject to get much stickier whenever some derivative of SOPA passes. Ugh. Don't even get me started on SOPA/PITA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I agree with that to a great degree although I think there are many factors in play not all of which are the fault of the NFL or under its control. I hear you there; the NFL can't force manufacturers to stop, but the public sure could... however, I don't see the SUCCESSFUL boycotting of clothing sales to prove a point. Edited February 1, 2012 by BmoreBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Except there was no link to Chinese counterfeiters. There were links to new designs and one guy's remark, a few posts later, about Chinese counterfeiters. If there were a link to Chinese counterfeiters, Scott would be wise to remove it and reprimand/expel the poster. That's not what happened here, and I don't think the NFL's suits are going to give a **** that someone made a remark. They're powerful, sure, but they're too busy for this nonsense. THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST. RTFP --- I wrote "in previous threads." Like this one. Recommendations for which sellers to buy from. There've been other threads with direct links to Chinese counterfeiter ordering sites. I just don't have time to go through them all, but they've been on here. There've also been direct links to streaming game feeds. I'm sure the people that get busted all think that too. Some version of SOPA will be passed sooner or later. The point is that this site should not be put at risk. Not sure I follow your thought process completely here. I do work on open source projects so in effect that code is published "to the web". And people take pieces of it all the time and turn them into applications that they make money on. When the counterfeiters make jerseys that for all intents and purposes are physically the same as the ones you purchase from the NFL, that is competition. It is license infringement and therefore illegal, but it is not theft. Theft would be if they robbed whatever Chinese factory makes the Reebok/Nike jerseys then sold what they stole. Appropriation / infringement / unfair commercial use = theft of patented trademarks and designs. You're going to split hairs over this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judman Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Per PFT story Let's go Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Guess this explains why all regular priced jerseys are $39 on the Bills website!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 The teams and league would have to consent to any changes, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Per the article: Nike’s intentions regarding the NFL uniforms remain unclear. An executive promised “dramatic” changes when the deal was struck in 2010. The NFL more recently has explained that the changes will primarily be reflected in the construction of the jersey. The construction of the jersey? I doubt we are going to see any real significant changes in how the jerseys will look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hell, because it's the offseason and I'm itching for Tuesday to get here....Can we expect to see blue pants this year? Do we want blue pants? etcetc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 If they F up this current uni after years of looking so pathetic on the field, I am going to have a SHT FIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Hell, because it's the offseason and I'm itching for Tuesday to get here....Can we expect to see blue pants this year? Do we want blue pants? etcetc there was a rumor a few weeks ago that we would see the Blue pants with the white jerseys. This would make me very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Bring back the red Helmets!, Too manny white helmets in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 The teams and league would have to consent to any changes, correct? I would assume so. The Bills just did a uni change (for the better), and I cannot see management willing to change again just for the sake of change. And quite frankly, I am afraid of any "Nike style" change to the uni. As it is, they need to ship those clown suits called college "combat" unis back to the circus where they stole them from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Sadly, don't expect much change...the NFL has the final say! Bring back the red Helmets!, Too manny white helmets in the league. Supposedly, red helmets are expensive...white ones are cheaper! Cue, "Ralph is Cheap!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 It will not change the overall design, just the fit, materials, and construction. I was discussing purchasing a bunch of the $39 jerseys now, with a few of my friends. But we are all too scared to jinx any of the players. My buddy bit the bullet and ordered a Dareus jersey. He quickly replied with this meme... http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36isxi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 The teams and league would have to consent to any changes, correct? Yes. Just because Charleston Chews might hire a new marketing team, that team cannot independently make changes in the wrapping design. So it is for the NFL as well. Anybody who's freaked that Nike would/will be able to force those Combat Gear mock-ups on teams is stupid. Per the article: Nike’s intentions regarding the NFL uniforms remain unclear. An executive promised “dramatic” changes when the deal was struck in 2010. The NFL more recently has explained that the changes will primarily be reflected in the construction of the jersey. The construction of the jersey? I doubt we are going to see any real significant changes in how the jerseys will look. I imagine that would be along the lines of seams and fabric type, etc. The Bills wore a new "more breathable" proprietary Reebok fabric. Why they would do this for a one year contract I don't know, but.... Hopefully, some of the striping issues will be worked out/standardized, mostly the sleeve striping where for some guys it was horizontal (Freddie), and for some guys it was over the shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Per the article: Nike’s intentions regarding the NFL uniforms remain unclear. An executive promised “dramatic” changes when the deal was struck in 2010. The NFL more recently has explained that the changes will primarily be reflected in the construction of the jersey. The construction of the jersey? I doubt we are going to see any real significant changes in how the jerseys will look. Has anyone seen what Nike has done to the NCAA Basketball jerseys? They are hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 there was a rumor a few weeks ago that we would see the Blue pants with the white jerseys. This would make me very happy. Not a rumor. Stevie said they would rock blue pants this year during an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judman Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) I wonder if the helmets will have that matte finish on them. They have been polished for so long. I know Oregon, Baylor and AZ State had those this year. I thought they looked sweet. IDK how the white would look. Oregon helmet PIC Edited March 9, 2012 by judman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Don't care about anything other than who is in the jerseys. I would take the old Buccaneer jerseys if we could put the right guys in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 there was a rumor a few weeks ago that we would see the Blue pants with the white jerseys. This would make me very happy. That would be cool, just say NO though to blue with blue, too tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Don't care about anything other than who is in the jerseys. I would take the old Buccaneer jerseys if we could put the right guys in them. in HD, those jerseys are some of the cleanest, brightest, nicest jerseys in sports: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=tampa+bay+creamsicle&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&biw=1280&bih=685&tbm=isch&tbnid=kgYivevGBulclM:&imgrefurl=http://theorangewhip.blogspot.com/2010/12/cool-uniform-props-tampa-bay.html&docid=gj6-290O96UXTM&imgurl=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MGUd4W3-w_Q/TQffFZqpkPI/AAAAAAAABUc/n-oC1EMOfF4/s1600/CUP_Tampa%25252BBay_1.jpg&w=660&h=454&ei=1XhaT_fcEIHo0gHi-oHPDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=880&vpy=322&dur=648&hovh=186&hovw=271&tx=84&ty=114&sig=104722426332801932717&page=1&tbnh=154&tbnw=202&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0 they might have looked out of place 15 years ago, but in today's NFL, that would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 That would be cool, just say NO though to blue with blue, too tacky. Actually, I thought that was the only decent combo of the previous atrocities. Anyway, I thought Steve Johnson confirmed that they were going with blue pants for the road jerseys this year...that would be cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Glad ro see it too - the Reebok stuff has been total crap. http://www.nikeblog.com/2012/03/06/nike-for-nfl-nike-buffalo-bills-t-shirt-arriving-at-retailers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nikeblog%2Fblogcraver+%28Nike+Blog%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 That's a good looking shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Wow that is an awful looking shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 If you tuck it in, it looks like the arm is coming right out of your pants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 that is subpar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglientep Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 If you tuck it in, it looks like the arm is coming right out of your pants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Wow, that is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 That shirt is "bowling shoe" ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 If you tuck it in, it looks like the arm is coming right out of your pants! If you wear a t-shirt tucked into anything an image of an arm coming from your pants is the least of your worries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVdR19E5mU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'll stick with my early 90s Starter and Zubaz gear, thankyouverymuch. My wife actually did get me Bills Zubaz pants for Xmas this year. You better believe I'll be rocking them at the Ralph this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I swear to God, who comes up with this crap? Just once, I wish someone would design a plain white shirt with blue ringer and put a simple logo in the center. I could design 10 different shirts that would fly off the shelves. How about one with stripes around the shoulders. This stuff is pure garbage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Glad ro see it too - the Reebok stuff has been total crap. http://www.nikeblog.com/2012/03/06/nike-for-nfl-nike-buffalo-bills-t-shirt-arriving-at-retailers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nikeblog%2Fblogcraver+%28Nike+Blog%29 I don't care one way or the other which brand does the jerseys and appareal, but what is so "crappy" about the Reebok stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Looks like the helmet is throwing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 That's a good looking shirt. Not really. Looks pretty awful to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 If you wear a t-shirt tucked into anything an image of an arm coming from your pants is the least of your worries. youtube.com/watch?v=tZVdR19E5mU ACor, I def agree. But I was reminded of this gem of a t-shrit... NSFW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Whatever happened to simple text/logo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I know that PFT reported that Seattle is the only team this year that Nike is completely changing their look but after digging around the intranet, it appears other teams are doing minor changes too. New alternate 3rd unis for Pitt, Den, Carolina, St.L, Mia, SF & TB are the only ones I know of right now. Are we getting a 3rd? I know we got blue pants this year but I hope Nike doesn't fudge us over w/something stupid. Anyone have any inside scoop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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