DE Austin Johnson visiting the Bills today - UPDATE: DaQuan Jones says we got him

[Aussie Joe]

8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Filling in roster spots before the draft.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Backups in the main and paid accordingly … but people still complain,,,

 

Perhaps they should have signed Armstead instead as their DT depth …similar price …

[Mat68]

12 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

He'd be a very good backup to DQ, considering the inconsistent garbage we saw from Settle, Ford, Phillips & Joseph.

Johnson and a rookie or 2 could be an upgrade over last season. 

Edited March 24 by Mat68

[Dr. Who]

39 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

I never gave him a thought before they signed him. Why would I, or anyone else for that matter?

He's just a guy, a backup for DaQuan. This wasn't a major move, he's not a difference maker. Beane doesn't tell me who he's thinking of signing. Are we supposed to talk about every bottom of the roster guy in the league? 

This is page 10 of a thread started on Wednesday. I didn't call you out personally. I just commented that no one appears to have remarked on it being a bad call when he was brought in. Folks offer opinions all the time. There's a lengthy thread about a WR5 special teams player who hates cats and dislikes soup. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

He’s not an All Pro, but he fills a role better than anyone we had last year. And the fact there was little market for him is another reason I think it’s a sneaky good signing. 

 

 

Man a shrink would have a field day with your use of exaggeration(like anyone remotely suggested All Pro was a likelihood) and the brand of dissonance that it takes to equate the lack of interest in a player making them a better target.   Well done.    

[FireChans]

27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Man a shrink would have a field day with your use of exaggeration(like anyone remotely suggested All Pro was a likelihood) and the brand of dissonance that it takes to equate the lack of interest in a player making them a better target.   Well done.    

AFAIK, there's zero NFL interest in signing me. I'm probably the best FA target of them all this season.

[BADOLBILZ]

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

AFAIK, there's zero NFL interest in signing me. I'm probably the best FA target of them all this season.

 

 

Would it be great if he got 30 sacks?   Sure.

[K-9]

54 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Man a shrink would have a field day with your use of exaggeration(like anyone remotely suggested All Pro was a likelihood) and the brand of dissonance that it takes to equate the lack of interest in a player making them a better target.   Well done.    

I see you’re not acquainted with the concept of hyperbole as a literary tool to emphasize a point, which is to say he’s not as bad a player as some want to make him out to be. Especially the folks at PFF who two GMs personally told me it was all they could do to keep from laughing when a certain player and agent cited their “ratings” in negotiations. Well done, indeed. 

[Sierra Foothills]

6 hours ago, peterpan said:

Dang I’m getting old, I remember wanting to draft Calais Campbell 

 

5 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Ha! I’m still pissed off about Ngata. 

 

And instead of Ngata we drafted Donte Whitner.

 

Thanks for bringing this up, guys.

 

[BADOLBILZ]

5 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I see you’re not acquainted with the concept of hyperbole as a literary tool to emphasize a point, which is to say he’s not as bad a player as some want to make him out to be. Especially the folks at PFF who two GMs personally told me it was all they could do to keep from laughing when a certain player and agent cited their “ratings” in negotiations. Well done, indeed. 

 

 

Ohhh.........so when the 2018 Bills had the lowest scoring offense the NFL had seen since the merger  thru the first half of any season and the Buffalo media asked Sean McDermott about this alarming fact, to which he responded "Would we like to score 50 points every game? Of course." that was actually a literary tool?

 

Not just a garden variety defense mechanism used to totally avoid actually giving a logical answer to a question by hurling some outrageous expectation that NOBODY had out there as if that was the only alternative?

 

Ok, thanks Shakespeare.

 

[bills742]

 

Edited March 24 by bills742

[Coach Tuesday]

8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Would it be great if he got 30 sacks?   Sure.

Sneakily great!

[BillsFan2313]

11 hours ago, Einstein said:

You didn't answer the question. PFF watched every snap of his and ranked him as one of the worst in the entire NFL. And judging by his pitiful contract, there was little market for him outside of a 1 year prove-it deal. 

There is zero evidence that we upgraded depth here, as there is little evidence that he is better than who he replaced.

 

Curious to see his previous year rankings as the Chargers were kind of a train wreck. Loads of talent on defense and still one of the worst defense in the league

[CaptnCoke11]

13 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

Curious to see his previous year rankings as the Chargers were kind of a train wreck. Loads of talent on defense and still one of the worst defense in the league

He’s been playing a totally different position than he will with Buffalo.  Previous rankings mean crap 

[Mat68]

50 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

He’s been playing a totally different position than he will with Buffalo.  Previous rankings mean crap 

Regardless of PFF he will be good 1 tech.   Playing him at 3-4 DE seems like square peg round hole.  

[BrainwashedBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Regardless of PFF he will be good 1 tech.   Playing him at 3-4 DE seems like square peg round hole.  

Don’t you think he would be more of a 3T? 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

6 hours ago, bills742 said:

 

Jordan Phillips vibes

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

I’ve learned that every player the Bills sign in FA is a sneaky great signing that is only going to blossom into a pro bowler in Buffalo. I mean, look at Settle, Hardy and Shurfield! 😂

[Dr. Who]

57 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said:

Don’t you think he would be more of a 3T? 

I think he's more likely to backup Jones as a 1T.

[Yawning Frog]

On 3/22/2024 at 11:32 AM, Yawning Frog said:

visiting the cardinals today bye bye buffalo nice to meet you.   

[Warriorspikes51]

IMO we could use him as a rotational 1T or 3T.  For run defense you could have him and Daquan out there.  He’s played DE in a 3-4 too

 

I’m not sure Sean is open to it, but I’d like to see us more unpredictable on D

 

if Sweat makes it to 60, I’m not passing on him just because we signed a player to a 1 year deal.  Take him.

 

then you could even mix in some 3-4 looks

 

Milano, Bernard inside.  
 

Dorian Williams,

Taron / Von / Rousseau outside  depending on what look you want to give

Edited March 24 by Warriorspikes51

[Mat68]

3 hours ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said:

Don’t you think he would be more of a 3T? 

Based off Joe Marino’s breakdown, I think he plays majority of the time at 1 tech.  He has the flexibility to play 3 tech but his play style lends well to 1 tech.   

[aristocrat]

very large human being. i am liking the look of our interior d line. praying that von has a great off season and gets back to form.  

[Warriorspikes51]

44 tackles last year…

 

More than 3 of our DT’s combined

 

Phillips had 15 tackles.  
Settle had 14 tackles.

Ford had 9 tackles.

 

Huge upgrade in run defense

 

Edited March 24 by Warriorspikes51

[Johnnyp566]

Was the Austin Johnson pursuit as suspenseful as the Bryant Johnson pursuit circa 2008? (My former BBMB friends will remember that one well).  

[Matt_In_NH]

This guy will eat a good chunk of snaps.  Still need at least one more rotational DT but Beane is filling out the roster.  Is he better or worse than Phillips, Settle or Ford?  We will see. 

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:

This guy will eat a good chunk of snaps.  Still need at least one more rotational DT but Beane is filling out the roster.  Is he better or worse than Phillips, Settle or Ford?  We will see. 

He had more tackles than all of them combined so…

[Matt_In_NH]

58 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

He had more tackles than all of them combined so…

So did Poona Ford before he was in this defense and he could barely get a jersey.

Edited March 24 by Matt_In_NH

[3rdand12]

21 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Johnson is a 1T. Sweat is a 1T. I don't see us going with a 3rd 1T as high as 60 when we have nothing behind Oliver at 3T.

I did not know Johnson was going to play that position so your point is valid if so

3T can be had anywhere in the draft or cheap . 1 techs as good as Sweat do not grow on Trees.

Think Sam Adams , Ted Washington. Could be a game wrecker. Johnson is a good pickup, agreed.

[drummernut74]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

IMO we could use him as a rotational 1T or 3T.  For run defense you could have him and Daquan out there.  He’s played DE in a 3-4 too

 

I’m not sure Sean is open to it, but I’d like to see us more unpredictable on D

 

if Sweat makes it to 60, I’m not passing on him just because we signed a player to a 1 year deal.  Take him.

 

then you could even mix in some 3-4 looks

 

Milano, Bernard inside.  
 

Dorian Williams,

Taron / Von / Rousseau outside  depending on what look you want to give

“I’m not sure Sean is open to it, but I’d like to see us more unpredictable on D”

 

… The single biggest reason we can’t get over the hump, and someone like Andy Reid …

 

I’ve been saying it for years … The Chiefs are married to winning Super Bowls, and the Bills are married to a “process” that they believe will get them there. Reaction and blind faith vs proaction and doing what’s necessary to beat who’s in front of you when it matters most 

 

… but perhaps maybe this is where Bobby Babich comes into play. McD still calls the plays for this year, but Babich has “fresh creative input” in game planning 🤷🏻‍♂️

Edited March 24 by drummernut74

[3rdand12]

16 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Man a shrink would have a field day with your use of exaggeration(like anyone remotely suggested All Pro was a likelihood) and the brand of dissonance that it takes to equate the lack of interest in a player making them a better target.   Well done.    

Hope you two are old time Buds.
 because that is a fine retort from you. A bit over the top and well done.

He might be a very solid signing as depth.

I still want Sweat. period

[HappyDays]

I don't know much about the player, but I'm glad they are waiting until the end of the second wave of FA to sign depth DL players like this, instead of their previous MO of agreeing to terms with players like Tim Settle on day one of the legal tampering period. This year Beane still made that mistake with a couple players that were on our roster in 2023, but finally stopped himself from making that mistake with other teams' UFAs. Baby steps.

[billsfan89]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I don't know much about the player, but I'm glad they are waiting until the end of the second wave of FA to sign depth DL players like this, instead of their previous MO of agreeing to terms with players like Tim Settle on day one of the legal tampering period. This year Beane still made that mistake with a couple players that were on our roster in 2023, but finally stopped himself from making that mistake with other teams' UFAs. Baby steps.

The team did sign Daquon fairly early in free agency in 2022 so it is a crap shoot. But the Bills cap situation was different in 2022 so they could have splurged early on more so than these past two seasons. 
 

I think with the current cap situation both now and going forward it’s always going to be more prudent to wait for that initial wave to be over and then sort through the second and third tier guys for good fits and good value. 

 

I loved the Poona Ford signing last off season and that didn’t really work out but it was low risk high reward so it didn’t massively impact the Bills having a subpar 5th DT.

 

Overall I think if the Bills are going to run out a deep defensive line rotation and have Josh Allen on a big contract the Bills are going to have to find value free agents and hit on draft picks in order to keep that up. Johnson seems like a solid pickup so hopefully it works out well as a one year rental 

Edited March 24 by billsfan89

[MR8]

4 hours ago, Johnnyp566 said:

Was the Austin Johnson pursuit as suspenseful as the Bryant Johnson pursuit circa 2008? (My former BBMB friends will remember that one well).  

 

It was about as fever pitched as the Sam Aiken preseason push for a larger role. 

[Prospector]

So the Johnson may be coming back even after we got the Clapp?

[peterpan]

On 3/23/2024 at 5:48 PM, BarleyNY said:

Ha! I’m still pissed off about Ngata. 

Ha! I loved Ngata too! And Gronk.

 

FU Tourell troup!!!

 

brian bulaga.  Iupati.  So many I remember that I wanted and ended up all pro 

Edited March 25 by peterpan

[Prospector]

28 minutes ago, peterpan said:

Ha! I loved Ngata too! And Gronk.

 

FU Tourell troup!!!

 

brian bulaga.  Iupati.  So many I remember that I wanted and ended up all pro 

This… I remember wanting Justin Houston for 3 straight rounds. But the Bills knew better

[colin]

11 hours ago, peterpan said:

Ha! I loved Ngata too! And Gronk.

 

FU Tourell troup!!!

 

brian bulaga.  Iupati.  So many I remember that I wanted and ended up all pro 

 

i remember ngata so clearly, altho there was a 3 tech from florida state or something who i thought would be a better "scheme fit".  ngata of course, was a powerhouse for like 12 years in the nfl, and even on the baltimore d was a standout for his intensity and strength.

 

Donte whitner was a slightly above replacement ss for a solid nfl career, and based on how rook contracts worked back then, we paid him for his first 4 or 5 years like he was a multiple pro bowler.  we had the absolute worst FO for a while there.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

20 hours ago, aristocrat said:

very large human being. i am liking the look of our interior d line. praying that von has a great off season and gets back to form.  

 

I think with the contract, and just... his performance last year and coming off the rehab etc.  I just think he doesn't want it to end that way?  

[NewEra]

18 hours ago, drummernut74 said:

“I’m not sure Sean is open to it, but I’d like to see us more unpredictable on D”

 

… The single biggest reason we can’t get over the hump, and someone like Andy Reid …

 

I’ve been saying it for years … The Chiefs are married to winning Super Bowls, and the Bills are married to a “process” that they believe will get them there. Reaction and blind faith vs proaction and doing what’s necessary to beat who’s in front of you when it matters most 

 

… but perhaps maybe this is where Bobby Babich comes into play. McD still calls the plays for this year, but Babich has “fresh creative input” in game planning 🤷🏻‍♂️

Great post

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

30 minutes ago, colin said:

 

i remember ngata so clearly, altho there was a 3 tech from florida state or something who i thought would be a better "scheme fit".  ngata of course, was a powerhouse for like 12 years in the nfl, and even on the baltimore d was a standout for his intensity and strength.

 

Donte whitner was a slightly above replacement ss for a solid nfl career, and based on how rook contracts worked back then, we paid him for his first 4 or 5 years like he was a multiple pro bowler.  we had the absolute worst FO for a while there.

 

I think i was more shocked that they didnt look at cutler.  He just looked like a better prospect than Losman.